Why do Majority of Jews vote Democratic?

[FlyerInHi]

Flu, decades ago Asians discovered UCI and Taiwanese started buying houses in the surroundings so their kids could attend University High.

Michigan recently did away with affirmative action. Houses in Ann Arbor are cheap compared to the coasts. You could buy a house there and send your wife to live there with your kids for a few years. Michigan ranks among the top, and for now, there’s less competition than in CA or NY.

Do you seriously think that Republicans are friends of Asian-Americans? Goodwin Liu was nominated by Obama to the Federal bench. He was on the path to the Supreme Court and was filibustered by Republicans.

My prediction is that as Asian-Americans participate more in politics, we will see something like voting patterns of Asians in Hawaii or San Francisco.

[CA renter]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=njtosd][quote=scaredyclassic] Otherwise, vote for the peace and freedom partay.[/quote]

Re: Peace – I guess that would be the Republicans . . Here’s some interesting data (haven’t looked at it very closely, but interesting):

.https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061003172851AAZgpzV

Freedom – do you mean freedom from the government or other citizens?[/quote]

i refuse to conceded that we have more than one political party.[/quote]

Agree with scaredy on this. Politics, especially as it relates to elections and public/official political parties, is nothing more than a dog and pony show put on to make people feel like they have some power over the system. They do not. Every candidate, especially those who are running for powerful positions, is usually hand-picked and fully vetted and approved by people who are NOT elected and who do not answer to us. An odd one (who truly represents “the people”) might slip in every once in awhile, but for the most part, the powerful positions are tightly controlled.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=CA renter][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=njtosd][quote=scaredyclassic] Otherwise, vote for the peace and freedom partay.[/quote]

Re: Peace – I guess that would be the Republicans . . Here’s some interesting data (haven’t looked at it very closely, but interesting):

.https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061003172851AAZgpzV

Freedom – do you mean freedom from the government or other citizens?[/quote]

i refuse to conceded that we have more than one political party.[/quote]

Agree with scaredy on this. Politics, especially as it relates to elections and public/official political parties, is nothing more than a dog and pony show put on to make people feel like they have some power over the system. They do not. Every candidate, especially those who are running for powerful positions, is usually hand-picked and fully vetted and approved by people who are NOT elected and who do not answer to us. An odd one (who truly represents “the people”) might slip in every once in awhile, but for the most part, the powerful positions are tightly controlled.[/quote]

an old roommates boyfriends did a handmade version of “Bush-Dukakis” arm in arm in i think 88. i wish i had one of those…he was a little ahead of his time kinda.

[Coronita]

[quote=FlyerInHi]

Do you seriously think that Republicans are friends of Asian-Americans?

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I’d say it’s picking the lesser of two evils wrto who is a greater threat to our future in the near/mid term…And that’s where I think you are missing my viewpoint. I don’t vote GOP necessarily because I agree with with some backward politician somewhere else that might be racist or a bible humper… I vote for a GOP candidate so that I can do my part ensuring the Democrat has as few of a chance of ever having a supermajority to cram any ridiculously executed ideology down people’s throat without any objection from anyone else. If that means voting for a Green Party member that runs against Democrat, that would be perfectly fine too…If lunatic Sarah Palin was running against a democrat here and democrats were dangerously close to a supermajority, I’d vote for that nutjob too… One rightwing nutjob in our government can’t do much because she/he is a minority and won’t be nearly as capable of causing as much damage as a dozen or so leftwing nutjobs concurrently in office. That’s the beauty of how our democratic system is suppose to work.. Enough different and disagreeing kinds of nutjobs in our government, they can’t figure out which nutjob bill to pass.

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Goodwin Liu was nominated by Obama to the Federal bench. He was on the path to the Supreme Court and was filibustered by Republicans.
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Considering Goodwin Liu was a strong advocate of affirmative action in it’s current form, I’d say it was a great thing he was blocked….hallelujah…

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My prediction is that as Asian-Americans participate more in politics, we will see something like voting patterns of Asians in Hawaii or San Francisco.[/quote]

Well, it depends…..It really depends on how democrats will attempt to address underprivileged/underepresented “minorities”….. If the approach is a zero-sum game approach in which you quota limit one ethnicity to increase quotas for others, as suggested by some democrats earlier, I’d say there’s a far greater risk of further fallout.

[FlyerInHi]

flu, did you read the article about Harvard being unfair to Asian-Americans. There’s a lot similar to the past treatment of Jews.

Maybe you should concentrate your efforts on helping Asian-Americans student bring suit against private universities.

[an]

[quote=FlyerInHi]flu, did you read the article about Harvard being unfair to Asian-Americans. There’s a lot similar to the past treatment of Jews.

Maybe you should concentrate your efforts on helping Asian-Americans student bring suit against private universities.[/quote]It’s not just private universities. It was also public universities when we had affirmative action and the democrats in CA who try to bring back affirmative action.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]
i refuse to conceded that we have more than one political party.[/quote]

We do have 2 main political parties. But we have 1 establishment with entrenched interests.

However, the interests of the establishment do change over time. Green energy is an example. As more capital is invested in renewal energy, there will be a shift away from fossil fuels. The process can be nudged along a little faster.

There’re also perceptions. You want to the support the party whose message is more aligned to your ideals. I just think of Republicans as the people who hoard the incandescent light-bulb. Sounds so last century. I doubt kids born today will know what an incandescent bulb is when they grow up. If anything, they’ll think it’s very quaint.

[FlyerInHi]

My point for flu was, as far expending moral outrage, efforts and resources, look at the proportional representation of Asian-Americans at UC vs. the Ivy league.

Edit: Flu, I just read your latest post. I actually agree with you.

[spdrun]

Want to see a real green party? Go to Europe, where they actually hold seats in multiple parliaments. Same goes for things like information privacy. Germany and Scandinavia actually have pirate and hacker parties that hold seats.

The darker side of this are crypto-fascist parties, of course.

Compared to what exists abroad, the two US parties might as well be the same organization.

We’ve been giving a lot of lip service to clean tech.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]

Compared to what exists abroad, the two US parties might as well be the same organization.

We’ve been giving a lot of lip service to clean tech.[/quote]

I like the 2 party system in America. The parliamentary systems of Europe seem so inefficient.

I believe one reason we’re richer and more dynamic here is because we don’t have the crazy political fights of Europe. At least monetary policy is independent and can be implemented quickly (But we also have monumental mistakes such as war, a consensus that would be harder to reach in Europe).

Compare the lip service to clean tech today vs the total contempt of before. That’s quite an achievement. When you see conservatives installing solar and buying electric cars, you know there’s a shift.

The difference is that change can happen fast or slow. To me, faster change is like faster economic growth. There’s a compounding effect over time.

If we grow at 3.5% and Europe grows at 2%, there will be a time, when they can no longer catch up and they will be left behind.

[Coronita]

[quote=FlyerInHi]flu, did you read the article about Harvard being unfair to Asian-Americans. There’s a lot similar to the past treatment of Jews.

Maybe you should concentrate your efforts on helping Asian-Americans student bring suit against private universities.[/quote]

Well, it’s really no secret…I’m well aware of this, because it happens not just at Harvard but just about at every other Ivy League school… Even back when I attended my school years back….I was fortunate (unfortunate) enough to be a liason with admissions and incoming student body….Asians, typically had 150 points higher on their SATs, near 800’s on their achievement tests, and most had to have Calculus AP already completed and completed well, all else extracurricular stuff being equal…

I think what you do have though is, is previously asians never complained about it. I certainly didn’t realize there was a race-based double standard until I was in college or started fighting for an internship while in college during a time when the economy was still bad. And at my internship, it was clear there was group A kids that knew what they were doing and group B kids that clearly did not. That company, eventually went under BTW (sold to a Chinese firm recently..ironic)

Now, that is not to say I’m against need-based admissions in general. I’m against race-based admissions practices and the associated zero-sum game wrto specifically other races that often get implemented to achieve race quotas.

If people really want to fix this social/economic issue, they should spend a heck of a lot more time fixing it at lower education levels (jr high/high school level) and address that problem first there by getting more of (insert your favorite underrepresented minority) interested in those areas and help them so they work hard to get there by their own abilities. If the government needs to spend more money at economically disadvantaged public schools in certain areas..fine so be it…And i specifically said economically disadvantaged, because that could easily imply some rust-belt rural hick-town in which no kids have ever gone to college..

BTW: if you’re referring to the lawsuit against Harvard, the lawsuit is funded by Edward Blum.. He’s much less interested in really “helping” address the inequality specifically against asian americans as he is interested in completely tearing down affirmative action.

[spdrun]

Are countries that didn’t catch up actually worse off? Just because we have two Chinese-made baubles for every 1.5 Chinese baubles owned by the average European doesn’t make us any happier.

Growth is another word for cancer. A fatal disease.

As far as efficiency, are you really calling a system that has got little done other than a mediocre, convoluted healthcare bill and has had multiple shutdowns over the past few years efficient?

Germany and many northern European countries are plenty efficient, BTW. Europe’s problem as a whole is different from what you think — imagine the US and Canada having a common currency with Mexico and Argentina.

Northern Europe is plenty rich, BTW. The average person there is richer in the one commodity that everyone has a finite supply of: free time. Yet average life span is a bit longer, and people still have the time to travel and enjoy life.

Is having a fucking 3000 sf McMansion and a teevee in every room a sign of wealth? Or just terminal stupidity?

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=spdrun]Are countries that didn’t catch up actually worse off? Just because we have two Chinese-made baubles for every 1.5 Chinese baubles owned by the average European doesn’t make us any happier.

Growth is another word for cancer. A fatal disease.

As far as efficiency, are you really calling a system that has got little done other than a mediocre, convoluted healthcare bill and has had multiple shutdowns over the past few years efficient?

Germany and many northern European countries are plenty efficient, BTW. Europe’s problem as a whole is different from what you think — imagine the US and Canada having a common currency with Mexico and Argentina.

Northern Europe is plenty rich, BTW. The average person there is richer in the one commodity that everyone has a finite supply of: free time. Yet average life span is a bit longer, and people still have the time to travel and enjoy life.

Is having a fucking 3000 sf McMansion and a teevee in every room a sign of wealth? Or just terminal stupidity?[/quote]

Terminal stupidity is the human condition.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]Is having a fucking 3000 sf McMansion and a teevee in every room a sign of wealth? Or just terminal stupidity?[/quote]Wealthy is having what you want in abundant. Be it kids, time, money, sleep, whatever.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun] Are countries that didn’t catch up actually worse off? Just because we have two Chinese-made baubles for every 1.5 Chinese baubles owned by the average European doesn’t make us any happier.
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It’s not happiness because happiness was constant even when we had less, and even across income/wealth levels after the basic needs are met.

It’s possessions and hoarding and keeping scores which is a human condition.

If Europe doesn’t accelerate growth, soon we could have 3 baubles to 2 for them. Then, no matter how much more free time they have, they will feel poorer (possible less happy) in the aggregate.

[quote=spdrun]
Is having a fucking 3000 sf McMansion and a teevee in every room a sign of wealth? Or just terminal stupidity?[/quote]

Not just any TVs but smart 60inch TVs! I had guests from Germany at my vacation rental. They were very impressed with the spaciousness, “luxury”, and large TVs in every room. They said TVs are double the price over there.

And, yes, terminal stupidity is a human condition. We can’t objectively measure happiness, but we can measure wealth.

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