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October 30, 2008 at 7:19 PM #295856October 30, 2008 at 11:16 PM #295534
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Culture and language are complex beasts. They are not something that can be dismantled and re-configured with ease.[/quote]Well actually it is pretty easy for kids under 14. Going from Spanish to English is not that huge of a leap. A complex beast. Hardly. My stepdaughter spoke zero English when she came to the USA at age 9. Her native language was Spanish. She was fluent in English a year later and now at 14 she speaks better English than most adults who were born in the USA. It’s has a lot to do with the parent(s),the school of choice, and the child’s friends. It can be done. Saying Spanish kids aren’t learning English faster because language is a complex beast is a cop-out.
October 30, 2008 at 11:16 PM #295872Guest[quote=afx114][quote=esmith]
Culture and language are complex beasts. They are not something that can be dismantled and re-configured with ease.[/quote]Well actually it is pretty easy for kids under 14. Going from Spanish to English is not that huge of a leap. A complex beast. Hardly. My stepdaughter spoke zero English when she came to the USA at age 9. Her native language was Spanish. She was fluent in English a year later and now at 14 she speaks better English than most adults who were born in the USA. It’s has a lot to do with the parent(s),the school of choice, and the child’s friends. It can be done. Saying Spanish kids aren’t learning English faster because language is a complex beast is a cop-out.
October 30, 2008 at 11:16 PM #295893Guest[quote=afx114][quote=esmith]
Culture and language are complex beasts. They are not something that can be dismantled and re-configured with ease.[/quote]Well actually it is pretty easy for kids under 14. Going from Spanish to English is not that huge of a leap. A complex beast. Hardly. My stepdaughter spoke zero English when she came to the USA at age 9. Her native language was Spanish. She was fluent in English a year later and now at 14 she speaks better English than most adults who were born in the USA. It’s has a lot to do with the parent(s),the school of choice, and the child’s friends. It can be done. Saying Spanish kids aren’t learning English faster because language is a complex beast is a cop-out.
October 30, 2008 at 11:16 PM #295905Guest[quote=afx114][quote=esmith]
Culture and language are complex beasts. They are not something that can be dismantled and re-configured with ease.[/quote]Well actually it is pretty easy for kids under 14. Going from Spanish to English is not that huge of a leap. A complex beast. Hardly. My stepdaughter spoke zero English when she came to the USA at age 9. Her native language was Spanish. She was fluent in English a year later and now at 14 she speaks better English than most adults who were born in the USA. It’s has a lot to do with the parent(s),the school of choice, and the child’s friends. It can be done. Saying Spanish kids aren’t learning English faster because language is a complex beast is a cop-out.
October 30, 2008 at 11:16 PM #295946Guest[quote=afx114][quote=esmith]
Culture and language are complex beasts. They are not something that can be dismantled and re-configured with ease.[/quote]Well actually it is pretty easy for kids under 14. Going from Spanish to English is not that huge of a leap. A complex beast. Hardly. My stepdaughter spoke zero English when she came to the USA at age 9. Her native language was Spanish. She was fluent in English a year later and now at 14 she speaks better English than most adults who were born in the USA. It’s has a lot to do with the parent(s),the school of choice, and the child’s friends. It can be done. Saying Spanish kids aren’t learning English faster because language is a complex beast is a cop-out.
October 30, 2008 at 11:31 PM #295539fredo4
ParticipantEsmith- you’re preaching to the choir here. I’m in full agreement with you on it being ridiculous that public schools are filled with so many non English speakers. It’s precisely the reason that all of my kids are in private schools. I’m just saying that it’s not just the Catholic Church whose demographics are changing, it’s the whole country. And as far as it being better or worse than the fate of Europe, only time will tell– but at least here you just have gangs shooting each other. Over there, you’ve got Muslim extremists blowing up everyone.
October 30, 2008 at 11:31 PM #295877ParticipantEsmith- you’re preaching to the choir here. I’m in full agreement with you on it being ridiculous that public schools are filled with so many non English speakers. It’s precisely the reason that all of my kids are in private schools. I’m just saying that it’s not just the Catholic Church whose demographics are changing, it’s the whole country. And as far as it being better or worse than the fate of Europe, only time will tell– but at least here you just have gangs shooting each other. Over there, you’ve got Muslim extremists blowing up everyone.
October 30, 2008 at 11:31 PM #295899ParticipantEsmith- you’re preaching to the choir here. I’m in full agreement with you on it being ridiculous that public schools are filled with so many non English speakers. It’s precisely the reason that all of my kids are in private schools. I’m just saying that it’s not just the Catholic Church whose demographics are changing, it’s the whole country. And as far as it being better or worse than the fate of Europe, only time will tell– but at least here you just have gangs shooting each other. Over there, you’ve got Muslim extremists blowing up everyone.
October 30, 2008 at 11:31 PM #295910ParticipantEsmith- you’re preaching to the choir here. I’m in full agreement with you on it being ridiculous that public schools are filled with so many non English speakers. It’s precisely the reason that all of my kids are in private schools. I’m just saying that it’s not just the Catholic Church whose demographics are changing, it’s the whole country. And as far as it being better or worse than the fate of Europe, only time will tell– but at least here you just have gangs shooting each other. Over there, you’ve got Muslim extremists blowing up everyone.
October 30, 2008 at 11:31 PM #295951ParticipantEsmith- you’re preaching to the choir here. I’m in full agreement with you on it being ridiculous that public schools are filled with so many non English speakers. It’s precisely the reason that all of my kids are in private schools. I’m just saying that it’s not just the Catholic Church whose demographics are changing, it’s the whole country. And as far as it being better or worse than the fate of Europe, only time will tell– but at least here you just have gangs shooting each other. Over there, you’ve got Muslim extremists blowing up everyone.
October 30, 2008 at 11:51 PM #295554CA renter
ParticipantWe lived in O’side for over six years in a barrio-adjacent n’hood (some would call our area a barrio as well). My mother lived there for almost 15 years (until she passed away) and absolutely loved O’side.
Like everything in life, it’s all relative. We had some really wonderful neighbors and some pretty bad ones. There were local shootings; and around the time we left, there were almost daily car break-ins just on our street (this went on for about a month or so).
Like the others said, there are some good areas and some bad areas. I like the Fire Mountain area as well, and they have some fantastic, older homes on nice lots. Many of them have ocean views.
The harbor is one of San Diego County’s jewels, and there is plenty of convenient shopping.
The downside is it takes a long time to get anywhere.
It is a good option if one works in south Orange County, but cannot afford OC prices.
October 30, 2008 at 11:51 PM #295892ParticipantWe lived in O’side for over six years in a barrio-adjacent n’hood (some would call our area a barrio as well). My mother lived there for almost 15 years (until she passed away) and absolutely loved O’side.
Like everything in life, it’s all relative. We had some really wonderful neighbors and some pretty bad ones. There were local shootings; and around the time we left, there were almost daily car break-ins just on our street (this went on for about a month or so).
Like the others said, there are some good areas and some bad areas. I like the Fire Mountain area as well, and they have some fantastic, older homes on nice lots. Many of them have ocean views.
The harbor is one of San Diego County’s jewels, and there is plenty of convenient shopping.
The downside is it takes a long time to get anywhere.
It is a good option if one works in south Orange County, but cannot afford OC prices.
October 30, 2008 at 11:51 PM #295913ParticipantWe lived in O’side for over six years in a barrio-adjacent n’hood (some would call our area a barrio as well). My mother lived there for almost 15 years (until she passed away) and absolutely loved O’side.
Like everything in life, it’s all relative. We had some really wonderful neighbors and some pretty bad ones. There were local shootings; and around the time we left, there were almost daily car break-ins just on our street (this went on for about a month or so).
Like the others said, there are some good areas and some bad areas. I like the Fire Mountain area as well, and they have some fantastic, older homes on nice lots. Many of them have ocean views.
The harbor is one of San Diego County’s jewels, and there is plenty of convenient shopping.
The downside is it takes a long time to get anywhere.
It is a good option if one works in south Orange County, but cannot afford OC prices.
October 30, 2008 at 11:51 PM #295925ParticipantWe lived in O’side for over six years in a barrio-adjacent n’hood (some would call our area a barrio as well). My mother lived there for almost 15 years (until she passed away) and absolutely loved O’side.
Like everything in life, it’s all relative. We had some really wonderful neighbors and some pretty bad ones. There were local shootings; and around the time we left, there were almost daily car break-ins just on our street (this went on for about a month or so).
Like the others said, there are some good areas and some bad areas. I like the Fire Mountain area as well, and they have some fantastic, older homes on nice lots. Many of them have ocean views.
The harbor is one of San Diego County’s jewels, and there is plenty of convenient shopping.
The downside is it takes a long time to get anywhere.
It is a good option if one works in south Orange County, but cannot afford OC prices.
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