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August 3, 2007 at 8:15 AM #69913August 3, 2007 at 9:53 AM #69896
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ParticipantIt’s hardly fair to compare Costco and Walmart. Yes, both are big box retailers, but Costco pays its workers a fair wage and has a generous benefits package–unlike Walmart, which pays next to nothing and gives its employees classes on how to sign up for government aid programs like food stamps. Any one who’s ever been or had family who are “blue collar” workers should avoid the WalMarts of the world – Give me Costco any day over Walmart!
August 3, 2007 at 9:53 AM #69971ParticipantIt’s hardly fair to compare Costco and Walmart. Yes, both are big box retailers, but Costco pays its workers a fair wage and has a generous benefits package–unlike Walmart, which pays next to nothing and gives its employees classes on how to sign up for government aid programs like food stamps. Any one who’s ever been or had family who are “blue collar” workers should avoid the WalMarts of the world – Give me Costco any day over Walmart!
August 3, 2007 at 9:57 AM #69898Carlsbadliving
ParticipantBubblesitter,
I haven’t heard of a high end Walmart, but I can guarantee you that the City of Carlsbad will require them to be high end. The City has complete and total control over what the final product will look like. And they will have enough public pressure that it will look like the Taj Mahal by the time it’s built.You have to understand something here. The property has been zoned for a shopping center for years. Anyone who bought property near there knew this. Now as long as Wal-mart complies with the Zoning Ordinance and makes it look high end there’s nothing that the City can do. Walmart will sue them silly if they’re denied and they’d have a good case, too. Have you ever heard of property rights?
If anyone had a problem with a Walmart or similar type store going there, they should have complained as soon as the propery was zoned for it.
As far as traffic congestion is concerned, a Walmart will generate the same traffic as any other community shopping center with identical square footage. That’s a poor argument, and once again, it’s zoned for that amount of traffic.
I really don’t understand people’s animosity towards Walmart. But hey, just vote with your money. If you don’t like it, then don’t shop there. If there’s enough of you doing the same thing, the store will close down due to lack of business. But somehow I don’t see that happening.
August 3, 2007 at 9:57 AM #69973ParticipantBubblesitter,
I haven’t heard of a high end Walmart, but I can guarantee you that the City of Carlsbad will require them to be high end. The City has complete and total control over what the final product will look like. And they will have enough public pressure that it will look like the Taj Mahal by the time it’s built.You have to understand something here. The property has been zoned for a shopping center for years. Anyone who bought property near there knew this. Now as long as Wal-mart complies with the Zoning Ordinance and makes it look high end there’s nothing that the City can do. Walmart will sue them silly if they’re denied and they’d have a good case, too. Have you ever heard of property rights?
If anyone had a problem with a Walmart or similar type store going there, they should have complained as soon as the propery was zoned for it.
As far as traffic congestion is concerned, a Walmart will generate the same traffic as any other community shopping center with identical square footage. That’s a poor argument, and once again, it’s zoned for that amount of traffic.
I really don’t understand people’s animosity towards Walmart. But hey, just vote with your money. If you don’t like it, then don’t shop there. If there’s enough of you doing the same thing, the store will close down due to lack of business. But somehow I don’t see that happening.
August 3, 2007 at 10:20 AM #69866no_such_reality
ParticipantOn one hand, folks complain about being outsourced to cheaper labor. On the other hand, folks aren’t willing to pay more. Why buy a $20 craftsman tool set from sears made in USA when you can buy the $4.99 special from walmart made in china?
F_L_U good point about the buying complaining hypocrisy.
Like the auto industry, sadly, the additional cost in many American made products provide little if any additional benefit to the casual user. More importantly, the casual American’s disposable mindset fits better with building junk that lasts one to two years than it does with building something that will last twenty.
Who knows maybe a twenty housing credit bubble hangover will due the US good.
August 3, 2007 at 10:20 AM #69941ParticipantOn one hand, folks complain about being outsourced to cheaper labor. On the other hand, folks aren’t willing to pay more. Why buy a $20 craftsman tool set from sears made in USA when you can buy the $4.99 special from walmart made in china?
F_L_U good point about the buying complaining hypocrisy.
Like the auto industry, sadly, the additional cost in many American made products provide little if any additional benefit to the casual user. More importantly, the casual American’s disposable mindset fits better with building junk that lasts one to two years than it does with building something that will last twenty.
Who knows maybe a twenty housing credit bubble hangover will due the US good.
August 3, 2007 at 12:51 PM #69970Bubblesitter
ParticipantThe Carlsbad planning commission seems be either incompetent or lacking foresight or both. The impact of over-development has already reduced quality of life for Carlsbad residents.
Another good example is Bressi Ranch. This was built in the flight path of one of the busiest small airports in the country!
Noise pollution complaints are now starting to push for cutting back of flight at Palomar airport. Any buyer into Bressi ranch in NE Carlsbad should be fully aware of the considerable issues with aircraft noise pollution.
This planning screw-up was larger than any Sunroad building height issue. Click on the Bressi ranch link.
August 3, 2007 at 12:51 PM #70045ParticipantThe Carlsbad planning commission seems be either incompetent or lacking foresight or both. The impact of over-development has already reduced quality of life for Carlsbad residents.
Another good example is Bressi Ranch. This was built in the flight path of one of the busiest small airports in the country!
Noise pollution complaints are now starting to push for cutting back of flight at Palomar airport. Any buyer into Bressi ranch in NE Carlsbad should be fully aware of the considerable issues with aircraft noise pollution.
This planning screw-up was larger than any Sunroad building height issue. Click on the Bressi ranch link.
August 3, 2007 at 1:00 PM #69978ParticipantWhat was the Carlsbad planning commission thinking?
Intensity: There IS a lot of aircraft ACTIVITY over this area today and it will increase. Palomar Airport is a VERY BUSY GA airport. In 1999 it had a peak of 292,000 operations–the busiest single runway airport in the nation. The airport is one of the busiest in the nation. Contributing factors in 1999 were 4 flight schools and increasing commercial aviation. The airport now has 5 flight schools, 2 flying clubs and 2 regularly scheduled airline services (FAA Part 121). In addition, Palomar is quickly becoming a major jet center for North County. Many of the factors that created peak airport demand are again in place and more… and it would not be unreasonable to expect air traffic to increase beyond the 1999 levels. There are and will be more aircraft every year.
August 3, 2007 at 1:00 PM #70053ParticipantWhat was the Carlsbad planning commission thinking?
Intensity: There IS a lot of aircraft ACTIVITY over this area today and it will increase. Palomar Airport is a VERY BUSY GA airport. In 1999 it had a peak of 292,000 operations–the busiest single runway airport in the nation. The airport is one of the busiest in the nation. Contributing factors in 1999 were 4 flight schools and increasing commercial aviation. The airport now has 5 flight schools, 2 flying clubs and 2 regularly scheduled airline services (FAA Part 121). In addition, Palomar is quickly becoming a major jet center for North County. Many of the factors that created peak airport demand are again in place and more… and it would not be unreasonable to expect air traffic to increase beyond the 1999 levels. There are and will be more aircraft every year.
August 3, 2007 at 1:27 PM #70002ParticipantBubblesitter,
Are you aware that the voters of Carlsbad approved a growth management plan in 1986 that set caps on the number of units in each quadrant of the City? And at buildout, each quadrant will have LESS than that number.
The Planning Commission isn’t approving any development that hasn’t been planned for decades. Furthermore, each homebuyer in Bressi is required to be legally made aware of the noise impacts involved. They were all well aware of the impacts. Nobody made them buy a house there.
August 3, 2007 at 1:27 PM #70078ParticipantBubblesitter,
Are you aware that the voters of Carlsbad approved a growth management plan in 1986 that set caps on the number of units in each quadrant of the City? And at buildout, each quadrant will have LESS than that number.
The Planning Commission isn’t approving any development that hasn’t been planned for decades. Furthermore, each homebuyer in Bressi is required to be legally made aware of the noise impacts involved. They were all well aware of the impacts. Nobody made them buy a house there.
October 12, 2007 at 3:15 AM #88331ParticipantYou gotta concede that the Carlsbad planning commission screwed up the zoning in the Palomar airport surrounding areas, Bressi Ranch in particular.
Here’s an update on the Palomar airport expansion, posted on a separate thread…….
Oct 12, 2007
An update on the planned Palomar airport expansion in Carlsbad. A large new terminal building is planned. Groundbreaking if it hasn’t occured yet will soon begin. This will increase flight operations at the airport, along with the size/type of of aircraft, e.g. more noisy 70 passenger turboprops.Seems to be a growing groundswell of resident opposition to this. Not much can be done however, other than complain about violations of VNAP (Voluntary Noise Abatement Procedures) THESE ARE VOLUNTARY GUIDELINES ONLY. Property value in surrounding areas will surely be impacted. Here’s the opposition site.
http://loudairport.com/press.html
The opposing view from the Palomar airport association spells out their view. Good points. High density residental should never have been approved for surrounding areas.
This is getting increasingly contentious. The PAA site is claiming their site has been vandalized by opponents. The Carlsbad planning commission sure screwed this one up big time. They approved Bressi ranch which is in the flight path of this airport, THIS AIRPORT IS ONE OF THE BUSIEST SMALL AIRPORTS IN THE COUNTRY WITH 200,000+ FLIGHT OPERATIONS YEARLY. IT WILL GET BUSIER!!
October 12, 2007 at 3:15 AM #88338ParticipantYou gotta concede that the Carlsbad planning commission screwed up the zoning in the Palomar airport surrounding areas, Bressi Ranch in particular.
Here’s an update on the Palomar airport expansion, posted on a separate thread…….
Oct 12, 2007
An update on the planned Palomar airport expansion in Carlsbad. A large new terminal building is planned. Groundbreaking if it hasn’t occured yet will soon begin. This will increase flight operations at the airport, along with the size/type of of aircraft, e.g. more noisy 70 passenger turboprops.Seems to be a growing groundswell of resident opposition to this. Not much can be done however, other than complain about violations of VNAP (Voluntary Noise Abatement Procedures) THESE ARE VOLUNTARY GUIDELINES ONLY. Property value in surrounding areas will surely be impacted. Here’s the opposition site.
http://loudairport.com/press.html
The opposing view from the Palomar airport association spells out their view. Good points. High density residental should never have been approved for surrounding areas.
This is getting increasingly contentious. The PAA site is claiming their site has been vandalized by opponents. The Carlsbad planning commission sure screwed this one up big time. They approved Bressi ranch which is in the flight path of this airport, THIS AIRPORT IS ONE OF THE BUSIEST SMALL AIRPORTS IN THE COUNTRY WITH 200,000+ FLIGHT OPERATIONS YEARLY. IT WILL GET BUSIER!!
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