Trump becoming presidential

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flu]If people actually lived elsewhere an extended period of time, they would appreciate what America still has to offer versus just about everywhere else. Folks that don’t understand are entitled spoil brats that haven’t experienced what corruption and extreme government is.

People that routinely say how much better Europe or in a third world shithole is, but still remain in the US, gloss over the fact that they still are here because, despite everything they bitch about, their economic well being and freedom to complain is still better here in the U.S than anywhere else. Otherwise, they would have left a long time ago. These folks can’t dance around that fundamental fact. They are just unappreciative of what they have. It’s really the same thing as those that complain about how liberal and horrible California is, but have yet to leave the state.

See BrianSD(FlyinHi), you and NeetaT are have a lot in common, more than you think! Lol…[/quote]

I will answer this because it’s my downday…. before I go out and replace an AC capacitor. But I won’t do it if rain comes.

I agree with you… but only somewhat. It’s nuanced.

The USA is “free” but only in some ways.

You cannot build what you want on your own land. You cannot open a cafe out of your garage. When you own land, you have to abide by decades long community plans dating back to the 70s. So that is very “communist” and takes away personal freedom and property. Social engineering at it’s worse or best, depending on how you like it. Extreme government?

Europe is better in some ways, and worse in other ways. The US metros are more diverse than Europe and the food is better and cheaper in LA or New York. And the second tier cities like San Diego, Seattle, etc.. are improving. The problem in USA is that we have backward rural areas and their voters.

Europe is economically kinder, gentler to their populations but there are lots of deplorables there too. Europe is an old continent so they protect the old ways and their deplorables more.
But then Britain might soon have a Prime Minister of Pakistani descent (I hope that happens as a poke in the eye of the British deplorables). Do you think it will happen in USA? Could we have top government officials of Sikh decent who wear their traditional headdress surrounding the president, like they do in Canada?

Real estate investing for stable cash-flow is good in USA because salaries are higher and rents are higher relative to real estate prices. But in USA, you have lots of scammers who don’t pay rent and need evicting, so you have to be careful.

I would say that in the developed world, the USA is more open and entrepreneurial for people who have skills and education. So for competitive professionals, it’s by and large better. That’s why foreign born professionals are comprising a larger portion of the new economy.

The thing that strikes me as odd is that Trump deplorables are neither entrepreneurial nor skillful. They say tbey want a hyper competitive world but they can’t compete in it, hence the anxiety. Trump deplorables are like former high school athletes who didn’t go to college and whose glory time is well past.

In looking at the interlinked world of today, I think we need to open our eyes, pick and chose the best solutions out there and make them our own.

BTW, I have EU citizenship so I can go anytime I want. It’s a good idea to hedge your bets and hold multiple passports.

[Coronita]

I remember about 14 years ago, a co-worker of mine who was a die hard progressive admired a Latin America country. He praised how well that country was run… how they had a wonderful working public health system, wonderful energy reserves, balanced economy, a government that lacked the corruption we have in the US, a strong socialist leader that cared about the greater good of the country. I challenged him and asked if things are so great why doesn’t he move there…..He said he was working on it.

Anyway, he was talking about Venezuela. I hope he moved there…. lol…

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]The bullet train isn’t a waste of funds — the construction was just grossly mismanaged. A French or Chinese consortium could have done it at 1/4 the cost, but no, we have to “buy American.”

I suspect that’s the idea — have the corrupt US contractors build it Merced to Bakersfield, and have a foreign company with actual experience build from Bakersfield to LA. Tracks already exist from Oakland to Merced. With lighter off-the-shelf European trains now being allowed by Federal law, this section could be electrified and used for the northern section to SF, with the “last mile” being along the Bay Bridge.[/quote]

China opens a new high speed rail line every week. I’m most impressed with their extreme temperature rail lines.

Some Americans have no shame. They will claim that we have superior technology. Yeah, at the universities, as basic research. But the Chinese implemented technology. They have machines to build rail lines, bridges and bore tunnels, while Caltrans still builds things by hand.

BTW, there is a big anxiety in Europe. Asltom-Siemens wanted to merge in order to compete with CRRC but the European commission vetoed the merger.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flu]I remember about 14 years ago, a co-worker of mine who was a die hard progressive admired a Latin America country. He praised how well that country was run… how they had a wonderful working public health system, wonderful energy reserves, balanced economy, a government that lacked the corruption we have in the US, a strong socialist leader that cared about the greater good of the country. I challenged him and asked if things are so great why doesn’t he move there…..He said he was working on it.

Anyway, he was talking about Venezuela. I hope he moved there…. lol…[/quote]

love it or leave it a false dilemma.

If you were rational you would apply the same standard to Republicans living in California.

Or the American chamber of commerce in China. They operate there and are glad for the business opportunities, but they bitch about the system.

[utcsox]

[quote=outtamojo]While we are name-calling, what are we calling the opposite of Trump derangement syndrome?

Wanting to vote for someone to “hit back at Ca. harder” is kinda nut-jobbish especially when Ca is admittedly the best place to make your family nut.[/quote]

I call them the Republicans.

[scaredyclassic]

when the president calls for investogation of comedy shows is it really that deranged to be alarmed?

however if trump suddenly died of natural causes there would be mass spontaneous exuberant street celebrations. hell trump death day would probably be a holiday 4 years to come. i dare say that would be a’1st in us history, celebrating death from old age and obesity, and perhaps a sign of TDS.

i admit i would raise a glass and smile to think of some big chunk of the old
turds arterial system breaking off and lodging in his heart. so calming to think of his final gasps andthe autopsy report blaming mcdonalds. the fact that he continues to live and breathe and eat junk food is proof we are alone and unwatched in this cold random universe for any G-d involved in justice wouldve acted.

[spdrun]

scaredyclassic – I don’t wish Trump badly to that extent … I wouldn’t want Pence getting into the Presidency, which would mean a socially acceptable face behind current GOP policy.

[zk]

[quote=scaredyclassic]when the presodent calls for investogation of comedy shows is it really that deranged to be alarmed?

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trump derangement syndrome is just something that trump followers came up with because, as econtroll (or “econprof,” as he hilariously calls himself) and neeta and their ilk have shown, they can’t defend their positions using logic and reason. They’re reduced to responding to reasonable discussions with the silly notion that anybody who’s outraged at the outrage that is the trump presidency must be irrational.

It’s irrational not to be alarmed. That’s the real trump derangement syndrome. To be so delirious with cultish devotion to someone whom you pathetically believe when he says he’s “the only one who can fix it” that you can’t see the truth or the danger or the outrage.

[zk]

[quote=utcsox][quote=outtamojo]While we are name-calling, what are we calling the opposite of Trump derangement syndrome?

Wanting to vote for someone to “hit back at Ca. harder” is kinda nut-jobbish especially when Ca is admittedly the best place to make your family nut.[/quote]

I call them the Republicans.[/quote]

If, by the opposite of tds you mean

[quote=zk]To be so delirious with cultish devotion to someone whom you pathetically believe when he says he’s “the only one who can fix it” that you can’t see the truth or the danger or the outrage.[/quote]

then I’d partially agree. That does seem to apply to a sizable majority of republicans.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]scaredyclassic – I don’t wish Trump badly to that extent … I wouldn’t want Pence getting into the Presidency, which would mean a socially acceptable face behind current GOP policy.[/quote]

Did you see Pence at the Munich security conference?

The USA is declining. that serves us right for pandering to a culture of ignorance.

[Coronita]

I think it’s funny that the Democrat candidates running for president these days are all nuts. But it’s all entertaining to me. Warren, Harris, Bernie….Anyone not a Socialist from the Democrat party running in 2020? Lol.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flu]I think it’s funny that the Democrat candidates running for president these days are all nuts. But it’s all entertaining to me. Warren, Harris, Bernie….Anyone not a Socialist from the Democrat party running in 2020? Lol.[/quote]

Why don’t you concentrate on your own side? We’ll take responsibility for our own.

You keep on wanting to blame Democrats from Trump’s win. Trump won because Republicans voted for him. Doesn’t get any simpler than this.

Did you consider how socialist it is to bring back the coal industry that employs only 50,000 people. Trump actually has concrete policies to produce and use more coal.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]when the president calls for investogation of comedy shows is it really that deranged to be alarmed?

however if trump suddenly died of natural causes there would be mass spontaneous exuberant street celebrations. hell trump death day would probably be a holiday 4 years to come. i dare say that would be a’1st in us history, celebrating death from old age and obesity, and perhaps a sign of TDS.

i admit i would raise a glass and smile to think of some big chunk of the old
turds arterial system breaking off and lodging in his heart. so calming to think of his final gasps andthe autopsy report blaming mcdonalds. the fact that he continues to live and breathe and eat junk food is proof we are alone and unwatched in this cold random universe for any G-d involved in justice wouldve acted.[/quote]

This made my day. I love your prose. You write beautifully.

[outtamojo]

[quote=flu]I think it’s funny that the Democrat candidates running for president these days are all nuts. But it’s all entertaining to me. Warren, Harris, Bernie….Anyone not a Socialist from the Democrat party running in 2020? Lol.[/quote]

I could go for pragmatism.

[Coronita]

[quote=outtamojo][quote=flu]I think it’s funny that the Democrat candidates running for president these days are all nuts. But it’s all entertaining to me. Warren, Harris, Bernie….Anyone not a Socialist from the Democrat party running in 2020? Lol.[/quote]

I could go for pragmatism.[/quote]

yes.. but I have a feeling pragmatism is going to get drowned out. I hope not… I think the democrats leaders have fallen off the rocker….look at who is the most vocal. Who is front page on CNN… Warren, Bernie, Harris, AOC.

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