Top 20 pensioners cite city service

[TexasLine]

I have huge reservations about responding…

…for fear of being beaten up-…but….I am really sick of all this anti-City of San Diego employee crap that I hear here and at just about every News source there is.

There are huge misappropriations of funds in any organization…Right of Wrong?

There are people at the “top” of every company who receive more money than what we think is appropriate(another discussion)…Right or Wrong?

Working for any municipality one should expect that some people have taken their positions based on an anticipated financial gain….is this different from a fortune 500 Co….?

In every example there are examples of those who have “worked the system”…Right or Wrong?

That being said, I work for the City and I have no idea what any of the Great Pension Talk is about.

I did not seek my job out based on what my pension would be….I did not accept my job based on some esoterical pension in the sky….I do not continue in my job because of the great pension benefits….I don’t know anything about my pension benefits and I don’t care. I want only to provide for my family.

….In fact! My monthly take home pay has continually gone down over the last 2 years(the phantom round-about tax increase that you all have never heard about)…I was struggling 6 years ago when I started and now I struggle even more. I have moved to a cheaper area and have cut every possible cost I can.(We don’t eat out-we don’t have cable-my wife wears the same clothes as 15 years ago….etc…)

So enough with the “blanket accusations” that City Employees “suffer” such terrible futures(sarcasm).

I have a good job. I work hard. I deal with things most people would cry over…and I’m barley making it. AND a “pension” is irrelevant to me in these hard times….always has been and always will be. I’d rather have “my” money to invest the way “I” see fit.

Point is….and I hope you get this…not all City employees are acting like greedy, selfish little bastards. Most of us actually struggle, unlike most of you…(that’s my little dig at those of you with two incomes making over 200,000+ and actually doing quite well on a daily basis, and with your investments…am implying you should take the plank out of your eye…etc…etc…)

[CA renter]

Bravo, TexasLine.

I’m also sick of all the whining about govt workers.

We’ve spent **TRILLIONS** on Wall Street (far more than the budget and pension deficits in CA), where those who’ve created all our economic problems (including the pension problems, BTW) are getting richer than ever; yet the violent anger is missing there. I wonder why? It makes me wonder who is **really** behind all these attacks on public workers.

Distract the sheeple at all costs…turn them against one another. That seems to be the plan, and the sheeple are being led to the slaughter, just as stupid as ever.

[CA renter]

Bravo, TexasLine.

I’m also sick of all the whining about govt workers.

We’ve spent **TRILLIONS** on Wall Street (far more than the budget and pension deficits in CA), where those who’ve created all our economic problems (including the pension problems, BTW) are getting richer than ever; yet the violent anger is missing there. I wonder why? It makes me wonder who is **really** behind all these attacks on public workers.

Distract the sheeple at all costs…turn them against one another. That seems to be the plan, and the sheeple are being led to the slaughter, just as stupid as ever.

[CA renter]

Bravo, TexasLine.

I’m also sick of all the whining about govt workers.

We’ve spent **TRILLIONS** on Wall Street (far more than the budget and pension deficits in CA), where those who’ve created all our economic problems (including the pension problems, BTW) are getting richer than ever; yet the violent anger is missing there. I wonder why? It makes me wonder who is **really** behind all these attacks on public workers.

Distract the sheeple at all costs…turn them against one another. That seems to be the plan, and the sheeple are being led to the slaughter, just as stupid as ever.

[CA renter]

Bravo, TexasLine.

I’m also sick of all the whining about govt workers.

We’ve spent **TRILLIONS** on Wall Street (far more than the budget and pension deficits in CA), where those who’ve created all our economic problems (including the pension problems, BTW) are getting richer than ever; yet the violent anger is missing there. I wonder why? It makes me wonder who is **really** behind all these attacks on public workers.

Distract the sheeple at all costs…turn them against one another. That seems to be the plan, and the sheeple are being led to the slaughter, just as stupid as ever.

[CA renter]

Bravo, TexasLine.

I’m also sick of all the whining about govt workers.

We’ve spent **TRILLIONS** on Wall Street (far more than the budget and pension deficits in CA), where those who’ve created all our economic problems (including the pension problems, BTW) are getting richer than ever; yet the violent anger is missing there. I wonder why? It makes me wonder who is **really** behind all these attacks on public workers.

Distract the sheeple at all costs…turn them against one another. That seems to be the plan, and the sheeple are being led to the slaughter, just as stupid as ever.

[CA renter]

BTW, it’s funny how they always pick the most egregious examples to “stir up the masses.”

Why aren’t they also showing us the median, or even the bottom 20 pension earners?

OTOH, why aren’t they showing us the most extreme tax avoidance maneuvers of those in the top 3% of wealthiest Americans?

They take the **TOP** pensions in the public sector and make comparisons with the **average** worker in the private sector. Why aren’t they comparing apples to apples: the top retirees in the public sector vs. the top retirees in the private sector?

[CA renter]

BTW, it’s funny how they always pick the most egregious examples to “stir up the masses.”

Why aren’t they also showing us the median, or even the bottom 20 pension earners?

OTOH, why aren’t they showing us the most extreme tax avoidance maneuvers of those in the top 3% of wealthiest Americans?

They take the **TOP** pensions in the public sector and make comparisons with the **average** worker in the private sector. Why aren’t they comparing apples to apples: the top retirees in the public sector vs. the top retirees in the private sector?

[CA renter]

BTW, it’s funny how they always pick the most egregious examples to “stir up the masses.”

Why aren’t they also showing us the median, or even the bottom 20 pension earners?

OTOH, why aren’t they showing us the most extreme tax avoidance maneuvers of those in the top 3% of wealthiest Americans?

They take the **TOP** pensions in the public sector and make comparisons with the **average** worker in the private sector. Why aren’t they comparing apples to apples: the top retirees in the public sector vs. the top retirees in the private sector?

[CA renter]

BTW, it’s funny how they always pick the most egregious examples to “stir up the masses.”

Why aren’t they also showing us the median, or even the bottom 20 pension earners?

OTOH, why aren’t they showing us the most extreme tax avoidance maneuvers of those in the top 3% of wealthiest Americans?

They take the **TOP** pensions in the public sector and make comparisons with the **average** worker in the private sector. Why aren’t they comparing apples to apples: the top retirees in the public sector vs. the top retirees in the private sector?

[CA renter]

BTW, it’s funny how they always pick the most egregious examples to “stir up the masses.”

Why aren’t they also showing us the median, or even the bottom 20 pension earners?

OTOH, why aren’t they showing us the most extreme tax avoidance maneuvers of those in the top 3% of wealthiest Americans?

They take the **TOP** pensions in the public sector and make comparisons with the **average** worker in the private sector. Why aren’t they comparing apples to apples: the top retirees in the public sector vs. the top retirees in the private sector?

[CA renter]

[quote=pjwal]This makes me sick to my stomach. Some joke IT dinosaur, that probably worked most his life fixing printer problems, whom made it “all the way up” to Director if IT (where most of his job still consisted of fixing printer problems) is now sitting pretty on a 139k/year pension. It’s not he was actually really challenged with a budget or had to worry about profitably at all during his career. Not like he actually had to innovate or keep his skill set up with changing technology. Not like he actually worked weekends or ever averaged more than 38 hours per week.[/quote]

Some pretty bold assumptions there.

I’ve worked in both private and public sectors, and can say for a fact that the standards for public workers are higher than for those in the private sector. Also, there is additional liability in the public sector that is not there in the private sector, which is why they have to hire better qualified candidates in the first place.

[CA renter]

[quote=pjwal]This makes me sick to my stomach. Some joke IT dinosaur, that probably worked most his life fixing printer problems, whom made it “all the way up” to Director if IT (where most of his job still consisted of fixing printer problems) is now sitting pretty on a 139k/year pension. It’s not he was actually really challenged with a budget or had to worry about profitably at all during his career. Not like he actually had to innovate or keep his skill set up with changing technology. Not like he actually worked weekends or ever averaged more than 38 hours per week.[/quote]

Some pretty bold assumptions there.

I’ve worked in both private and public sectors, and can say for a fact that the standards for public workers are higher than for those in the private sector. Also, there is additional liability in the public sector that is not there in the private sector, which is why they have to hire better qualified candidates in the first place.

[CA renter]

[quote=pjwal]This makes me sick to my stomach. Some joke IT dinosaur, that probably worked most his life fixing printer problems, whom made it “all the way up” to Director if IT (where most of his job still consisted of fixing printer problems) is now sitting pretty on a 139k/year pension. It’s not he was actually really challenged with a budget or had to worry about profitably at all during his career. Not like he actually had to innovate or keep his skill set up with changing technology. Not like he actually worked weekends or ever averaged more than 38 hours per week.[/quote]

Some pretty bold assumptions there.

I’ve worked in both private and public sectors, and can say for a fact that the standards for public workers are higher than for those in the private sector. Also, there is additional liability in the public sector that is not there in the private sector, which is why they have to hire better qualified candidates in the first place.

[CA renter]

[quote=pjwal]This makes me sick to my stomach. Some joke IT dinosaur, that probably worked most his life fixing printer problems, whom made it “all the way up” to Director if IT (where most of his job still consisted of fixing printer problems) is now sitting pretty on a 139k/year pension. It’s not he was actually really challenged with a budget or had to worry about profitably at all during his career. Not like he actually had to innovate or keep his skill set up with changing technology. Not like he actually worked weekends or ever averaged more than 38 hours per week.[/quote]

Some pretty bold assumptions there.

I’ve worked in both private and public sectors, and can say for a fact that the standards for public workers are higher than for those in the private sector. Also, there is additional liability in the public sector that is not there in the private sector, which is why they have to hire better qualified candidates in the first place.

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