This is the terrible economic Pain we are feeling?

[surveyor]

Facts, facts, and facts

DW: It’s a long study (156 pages). Google “homeownership and child health rates” and it’s one of the results. Here is the information you asked for. If you want the money statement that pretty much refutes what your original statement said, it’s in bold…

There have been a number of high quality studies that have investigated the impacts of homeownership on the educational attainment of children. The studies differ in the types of educational outcomes examined, the data sets used, and the methodological approaches employed. Yet, these studies universally conclude that the children of homeowners have better educational outcomes than the children of renters even after controlling for a wide variety of other household characteristics and employing statistical methods to account for selection bias in who becomes an owner.

Finally, Aaronson adds further controls to account for differences in household wealth, including the amount of housing equity. Including housing wealth in the estimated model is found to further reduce the estimated impact of homeownership on high school graduation by about half, with greater levels of housing equity associated with a greater likelihood of graduation. While Aaronson hypothesizes
that this result reflects the association between wealth and other household characteristics that affect well being, he also notes that non-housing wealth does not have the same positive association with graduation rates. This result is consistent with the argument made by others that housing wealth is indicative of larger and higher quality homes, which may support better educational outcomes.

Nonetheless, while Aaronson finds that including controls for residential mobility and wealth reduces
the impact of homeownership, it is still the case that an independent and statistically significant
association between homeownership and high school graduation remains.

I admit that the PBS program mentioned the homeownership and social success correlation only in passing, but it was still part of the overall conversation about the subject of class and talked directly. That’s why I also included the study.

Anyways, to summarize, the study says that in higher incomes, the gap is smaller between the homeowners and the renters, but that there is still a correlation between homeownership and child benefits.

So I have facts to back up my statement. Do you have any studies or facts that show that owning a house doesn’t mean your kid will be better off?

And let’s get something straight – you guys can rent as long as you like and buy houses when it costs terrific, and I don’t begrudge you guys that. Still, the facts are that there has been a historical benefit to owning property, and this benefit has existed ever since property rights were developed. This is a phenomenon that has not just come recently or was created as a tagline for realtors. It is a real benefit and has been in action for a hundred years and more.

There are always exceptions, but that doesn’t make this benefit false.

Does this mean you should buy overpriced property? NO.

I’m just saying that children benefit from homeownership and that it is documented.

[surveyor]

DR:

So you don’t trust dictionaries now?

Let’s look at the definition of correlation. It states that casuality is ONE of the ways a correlation is made.

Now your statement says that “correlation does not imply causation”. Actually, I beg to differ. Correlation DOES IMPLY causation.

Is correlation PROOF of causation? No. But it does IMPLY, which has a lesser burden of proof.

Personally I don’t believe that homeownership in and of itself is the CAUSE of improved childhood academic success. However, I cannot say that it ISN’T either.

Semantics.

Anyways, I’m done! Goin’ home! Hahaha.

[surveyor]

DR:

So you don’t trust dictionaries now?

Let’s look at the definition of correlation. It states that casuality is ONE of the ways a correlation is made.

Now your statement says that “correlation does not imply causation”. Actually, I beg to differ. Correlation DOES IMPLY causation.

Is correlation PROOF of causation? No. But it does IMPLY, which has a lesser burden of proof.

Personally I don’t believe that homeownership in and of itself is the CAUSE of improved childhood academic success. However, I cannot say that it ISN’T either.

Semantics.

Anyways, I’m done! Goin’ home! Hahaha.

[surveyor]

DR:

So you don’t trust dictionaries now?

Let’s look at the definition of correlation. It states that casuality is ONE of the ways a correlation is made.

Now your statement says that “correlation does not imply causation”. Actually, I beg to differ. Correlation DOES IMPLY causation.

Is correlation PROOF of causation? No. But it does IMPLY, which has a lesser burden of proof.

Personally I don’t believe that homeownership in and of itself is the CAUSE of improved childhood academic success. However, I cannot say that it ISN’T either.

Semantics.

Anyways, I’m done! Goin’ home! Hahaha.

[surveyor]

DR:

So you don’t trust dictionaries now?

Let’s look at the definition of correlation. It states that casuality is ONE of the ways a correlation is made.

Now your statement says that “correlation does not imply causation”. Actually, I beg to differ. Correlation DOES IMPLY causation.

Is correlation PROOF of causation? No. But it does IMPLY, which has a lesser burden of proof.

Personally I don’t believe that homeownership in and of itself is the CAUSE of improved childhood academic success. However, I cannot say that it ISN’T either.

Semantics.

Anyways, I’m done! Goin’ home! Hahaha.

[surveyor]

DR:

So you don’t trust dictionaries now?

Let’s look at the definition of correlation. It states that casuality is ONE of the ways a correlation is made.

Now your statement says that “correlation does not imply causation”. Actually, I beg to differ. Correlation DOES IMPLY causation.

Is correlation PROOF of causation? No. But it does IMPLY, which has a lesser burden of proof.

Personally I don’t believe that homeownership in and of itself is the CAUSE of improved childhood academic success. However, I cannot say that it ISN’T either.

Semantics.

Anyways, I’m done! Goin’ home! Hahaha.

[Anonymous]

One thing which I know is true:

Children have no idea whether the house they’re in is rented or owned unless somebody tells them. There’s no need to. And they don’t care.

[Anonymous]

One thing which I know is true:

Children have no idea whether the house they’re in is rented or owned unless somebody tells them. There’s no need to. And they don’t care.

[Anonymous]

One thing which I know is true:

Children have no idea whether the house they’re in is rented or owned unless somebody tells them. There’s no need to. And they don’t care.

[Anonymous]

One thing which I know is true:

Children have no idea whether the house they’re in is rented or owned unless somebody tells them. There’s no need to. And they don’t care.

[Anonymous]

One thing which I know is true:

Children have no idea whether the house they’re in is rented or owned unless somebody tells them. There’s no need to. And they don’t care.

[ucodegen]

First.. fixing the link, it is

http://www.huduser.org/Publications/PDF/hisp_homeown9.pdf

The server seems iffy.. and the transfer hung and had to be restarted several times. It is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000, so don’t expect too much.

As for dependency, or correlation to home ownership, you have to be careful of doing a statistical analysis when all independent variables are not considered. The end result will be a dependent variable, being identified as an independent variable. (dependent=result, independent=causal)

From my personal experience and from the experience of my “parental unit” who used to work as a Mentor Teacher, LA City School District; the single most important variable to the success of the child is parental involvement in the child’s education. The best way to see this is to look at the children of immigrants and ask “Why do some succeed and some do not when coming from the same financial background and often same neighborhoods?” Many of the aspects in parents that give rise to being involved in their child’s growth, also give rise to ‘family trees’ that rapidly pull themselves into better financial condition that also make it easier for them to purchase houses (thereby the home ownership actually being a dependent variable of this characteristic). A converse comparison might be interesting in identifying descendants of homeowners and the ‘better off’, who themselves are no longer better off.

Others important variables are:
*Education level of the parents.
*Willingness of parents to further their education while working.
*Willingness of the parents to learn what their child is learning (if they don’t already), and to tutor the child themselves if necessary – working with the child on their education.

[ucodegen]

First.. fixing the link, it is

http://www.huduser.org/Publications/PDF/hisp_homeown9.pdf

The server seems iffy.. and the transfer hung and had to be restarted several times. It is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000, so don’t expect too much.

As for dependency, or correlation to home ownership, you have to be careful of doing a statistical analysis when all independent variables are not considered. The end result will be a dependent variable, being identified as an independent variable. (dependent=result, independent=causal)

From my personal experience and from the experience of my “parental unit” who used to work as a Mentor Teacher, LA City School District; the single most important variable to the success of the child is parental involvement in the child’s education. The best way to see this is to look at the children of immigrants and ask “Why do some succeed and some do not when coming from the same financial background and often same neighborhoods?” Many of the aspects in parents that give rise to being involved in their child’s growth, also give rise to ‘family trees’ that rapidly pull themselves into better financial condition that also make it easier for them to purchase houses (thereby the home ownership actually being a dependent variable of this characteristic). A converse comparison might be interesting in identifying descendants of homeowners and the ‘better off’, who themselves are no longer better off.

Others important variables are:
*Education level of the parents.
*Willingness of parents to further their education while working.
*Willingness of the parents to learn what their child is learning (if they don’t already), and to tutor the child themselves if necessary – working with the child on their education.

[ucodegen]

First.. fixing the link, it is

http://www.huduser.org/Publications/PDF/hisp_homeown9.pdf

The server seems iffy.. and the transfer hung and had to be restarted several times. It is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000, so don’t expect too much.

As for dependency, or correlation to home ownership, you have to be careful of doing a statistical analysis when all independent variables are not considered. The end result will be a dependent variable, being identified as an independent variable. (dependent=result, independent=causal)

From my personal experience and from the experience of my “parental unit” who used to work as a Mentor Teacher, LA City School District; the single most important variable to the success of the child is parental involvement in the child’s education. The best way to see this is to look at the children of immigrants and ask “Why do some succeed and some do not when coming from the same financial background and often same neighborhoods?” Many of the aspects in parents that give rise to being involved in their child’s growth, also give rise to ‘family trees’ that rapidly pull themselves into better financial condition that also make it easier for them to purchase houses (thereby the home ownership actually being a dependent variable of this characteristic). A converse comparison might be interesting in identifying descendants of homeowners and the ‘better off’, who themselves are no longer better off.

Others important variables are:
*Education level of the parents.
*Willingness of parents to further their education while working.
*Willingness of the parents to learn what their child is learning (if they don’t already), and to tutor the child themselves if necessary – working with the child on their education.

[ucodegen]

First.. fixing the link, it is

http://www.huduser.org/Publications/PDF/hisp_homeown9.pdf

The server seems iffy.. and the transfer hung and had to be restarted several times. It is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000, so don’t expect too much.

As for dependency, or correlation to home ownership, you have to be careful of doing a statistical analysis when all independent variables are not considered. The end result will be a dependent variable, being identified as an independent variable. (dependent=result, independent=causal)

From my personal experience and from the experience of my “parental unit” who used to work as a Mentor Teacher, LA City School District; the single most important variable to the success of the child is parental involvement in the child’s education. The best way to see this is to look at the children of immigrants and ask “Why do some succeed and some do not when coming from the same financial background and often same neighborhoods?” Many of the aspects in parents that give rise to being involved in their child’s growth, also give rise to ‘family trees’ that rapidly pull themselves into better financial condition that also make it easier for them to purchase houses (thereby the home ownership actually being a dependent variable of this characteristic). A converse comparison might be interesting in identifying descendants of homeowners and the ‘better off’, who themselves are no longer better off.

Others important variables are:
*Education level of the parents.
*Willingness of parents to further their education while working.
*Willingness of the parents to learn what their child is learning (if they don’t already), and to tutor the child themselves if necessary – working with the child on their education.

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