This can’t end well so why should we wait?

[KSMountain]

Great post Cabal. Agree.

So let’s see… $3k a year more for *some* of the students (not all). So say $12-15k total.

What’s the payback time on that in terms of their very likely increased salaries over what they’d get as a non college graduate? Probably just a few years to fully recoup the investement.

They’ll be ok.

I also felt that manifesto was pretty whiney. Get to work, invent something, produce something, stop moaning everything is over before you’ve even started.

[SellingMyHome]

[quote=Cabal]With any generation there are always a set of issues that seem to foreshadow the end of the world. That has been the case since the birth of this nation and somehow, we always manage to adapt, survive, and ultimately prosper. This current crisis is no different. In 20 years, all of this nonsense will have been forgotten, everyone on this board will have survived, and the next generation will be complaining about something else. So calm down, notice it’s a another beautiful sunny day in SD, notice your wife and kids are happy and beautiful, have a beer and go watch football.

Regarding the UC student diatribe, my response is anyone attending UC should feel extremely fortunate. All UC campuses except Merced are ranked in the top 100 nationwide. Admission rates into the flagship campuses of UCB and UCLA are in the 20% range with typical GPAs of 4.3 and SAT well above 2000. Academic reputation, research, rigor, etc. are all top notch on par with the Ivys and other elite institutions, yet the average annual tuition is still at the incredible bargain price of around 8K (25K all inclusive). Unless they choose a major like Philosophy, most of these kids will eventually secure a well paying job. While the timing for the proposed 30% tuition hike couldn’t be worse, one needs to keep in mind that the life cycle return on their educational investment is unbeatable by any measure. If any of the protesting UCLA students wish to give up their admission spot, I guarantee you that there are 100 waiting in line willing to pay double.[/quote]

Great point! I remind myself how lucky I am all the time. But then, I’ve got two beautiful kids and wife, so I’ve got three things to look forward to on my commute home each night.

I know historically, people have always had something to complain about, and the older generation always think the younger generation are deadbeats. But, I think it is compounded lately by doom and gloom media outlets like Fox, that get off on making it sound like the world is ending! Or is it just because they are jealous of the liberal majority in government now. Too bad the dumbass liberals can’t get their agenda going!

[SellingMyHome]

[quote=Cabal]With any generation there are always a set of issues that seem to foreshadow the end of the world. That has been the case since the birth of this nation and somehow, we always manage to adapt, survive, and ultimately prosper. This current crisis is no different. In 20 years, all of this nonsense will have been forgotten, everyone on this board will have survived, and the next generation will be complaining about something else. So calm down, notice it’s a another beautiful sunny day in SD, notice your wife and kids are happy and beautiful, have a beer and go watch football.

Regarding the UC student diatribe, my response is anyone attending UC should feel extremely fortunate. All UC campuses except Merced are ranked in the top 100 nationwide. Admission rates into the flagship campuses of UCB and UCLA are in the 20% range with typical GPAs of 4.3 and SAT well above 2000. Academic reputation, research, rigor, etc. are all top notch on par with the Ivys and other elite institutions, yet the average annual tuition is still at the incredible bargain price of around 8K (25K all inclusive). Unless they choose a major like Philosophy, most of these kids will eventually secure a well paying job. While the timing for the proposed 30% tuition hike couldn’t be worse, one needs to keep in mind that the life cycle return on their educational investment is unbeatable by any measure. If any of the protesting UCLA students wish to give up their admission spot, I guarantee you that there are 100 waiting in line willing to pay double.[/quote]

Great point! I remind myself how lucky I am all the time. But then, I’ve got two beautiful kids and wife, so I’ve got three things to look forward to on my commute home each night.

I know historically, people have always had something to complain about, and the older generation always think the younger generation are deadbeats. But, I think it is compounded lately by doom and gloom media outlets like Fox, that get off on making it sound like the world is ending! Or is it just because they are jealous of the liberal majority in government now. Too bad the dumbass liberals can’t get their agenda going!

[SellingMyHome]

[quote=Cabal]With any generation there are always a set of issues that seem to foreshadow the end of the world. That has been the case since the birth of this nation and somehow, we always manage to adapt, survive, and ultimately prosper. This current crisis is no different. In 20 years, all of this nonsense will have been forgotten, everyone on this board will have survived, and the next generation will be complaining about something else. So calm down, notice it’s a another beautiful sunny day in SD, notice your wife and kids are happy and beautiful, have a beer and go watch football.

Regarding the UC student diatribe, my response is anyone attending UC should feel extremely fortunate. All UC campuses except Merced are ranked in the top 100 nationwide. Admission rates into the flagship campuses of UCB and UCLA are in the 20% range with typical GPAs of 4.3 and SAT well above 2000. Academic reputation, research, rigor, etc. are all top notch on par with the Ivys and other elite institutions, yet the average annual tuition is still at the incredible bargain price of around 8K (25K all inclusive). Unless they choose a major like Philosophy, most of these kids will eventually secure a well paying job. While the timing for the proposed 30% tuition hike couldn’t be worse, one needs to keep in mind that the life cycle return on their educational investment is unbeatable by any measure. If any of the protesting UCLA students wish to give up their admission spot, I guarantee you that there are 100 waiting in line willing to pay double.[/quote]

Great point! I remind myself how lucky I am all the time. But then, I’ve got two beautiful kids and wife, so I’ve got three things to look forward to on my commute home each night.

I know historically, people have always had something to complain about, and the older generation always think the younger generation are deadbeats. But, I think it is compounded lately by doom and gloom media outlets like Fox, that get off on making it sound like the world is ending! Or is it just because they are jealous of the liberal majority in government now. Too bad the dumbass liberals can’t get their agenda going!

[SellingMyHome]

[quote=Cabal]With any generation there are always a set of issues that seem to foreshadow the end of the world. That has been the case since the birth of this nation and somehow, we always manage to adapt, survive, and ultimately prosper. This current crisis is no different. In 20 years, all of this nonsense will have been forgotten, everyone on this board will have survived, and the next generation will be complaining about something else. So calm down, notice it’s a another beautiful sunny day in SD, notice your wife and kids are happy and beautiful, have a beer and go watch football.

Regarding the UC student diatribe, my response is anyone attending UC should feel extremely fortunate. All UC campuses except Merced are ranked in the top 100 nationwide. Admission rates into the flagship campuses of UCB and UCLA are in the 20% range with typical GPAs of 4.3 and SAT well above 2000. Academic reputation, research, rigor, etc. are all top notch on par with the Ivys and other elite institutions, yet the average annual tuition is still at the incredible bargain price of around 8K (25K all inclusive). Unless they choose a major like Philosophy, most of these kids will eventually secure a well paying job. While the timing for the proposed 30% tuition hike couldn’t be worse, one needs to keep in mind that the life cycle return on their educational investment is unbeatable by any measure. If any of the protesting UCLA students wish to give up their admission spot, I guarantee you that there are 100 waiting in line willing to pay double.[/quote]

Great point! I remind myself how lucky I am all the time. But then, I’ve got two beautiful kids and wife, so I’ve got three things to look forward to on my commute home each night.

I know historically, people have always had something to complain about, and the older generation always think the younger generation are deadbeats. But, I think it is compounded lately by doom and gloom media outlets like Fox, that get off on making it sound like the world is ending! Or is it just because they are jealous of the liberal majority in government now. Too bad the dumbass liberals can’t get their agenda going!

[SellingMyHome]

[quote=Cabal]With any generation there are always a set of issues that seem to foreshadow the end of the world. That has been the case since the birth of this nation and somehow, we always manage to adapt, survive, and ultimately prosper. This current crisis is no different. In 20 years, all of this nonsense will have been forgotten, everyone on this board will have survived, and the next generation will be complaining about something else. So calm down, notice it’s a another beautiful sunny day in SD, notice your wife and kids are happy and beautiful, have a beer and go watch football.

Regarding the UC student diatribe, my response is anyone attending UC should feel extremely fortunate. All UC campuses except Merced are ranked in the top 100 nationwide. Admission rates into the flagship campuses of UCB and UCLA are in the 20% range with typical GPAs of 4.3 and SAT well above 2000. Academic reputation, research, rigor, etc. are all top notch on par with the Ivys and other elite institutions, yet the average annual tuition is still at the incredible bargain price of around 8K (25K all inclusive). Unless they choose a major like Philosophy, most of these kids will eventually secure a well paying job. While the timing for the proposed 30% tuition hike couldn’t be worse, one needs to keep in mind that the life cycle return on their educational investment is unbeatable by any measure. If any of the protesting UCLA students wish to give up their admission spot, I guarantee you that there are 100 waiting in line willing to pay double.[/quote]

Great point! I remind myself how lucky I am all the time. But then, I’ve got two beautiful kids and wife, so I’ve got three things to look forward to on my commute home each night.

I know historically, people have always had something to complain about, and the older generation always think the younger generation are deadbeats. But, I think it is compounded lately by doom and gloom media outlets like Fox, that get off on making it sound like the world is ending! Or is it just because they are jealous of the liberal majority in government now. Too bad the dumbass liberals can’t get their agenda going!

[afx114]

I’m not usually one to quote song lyrics, but this little ditty from grunge kings Pearl Jam seems to fit:

“All that’s sacred comes from youth
dedication, naive and true
with no power, nothing to do
I still remember, why don’t you.”

For those wanting these college kids to “get off their ass and do something” what do you expect them to do? Run for governor? Drop out of school and get a job at their daddy’s hedge fund? All they’re doing is what is expected of them — working hard and getting an education. They’re holding up their end of the deal, what do you expect them to do when the other side doesn’t hold up their end? They’re in no position of power — really all they’ve got is some free time to cause a bit of a ruckus. More power to them I say.

And I agree that this is all just a little bit of history repeating. I remember protests over rate hikes every year at UCSD when I was there. Life goes on. Those that are worthy of the education they receive will be fine and pay off their debts in good time. Those who aren’t worthy of their own education are the ones who will be in trouble — and rightly so.

[afx114]

I’m not usually one to quote song lyrics, but this little ditty from grunge kings Pearl Jam seems to fit:

“All that’s sacred comes from youth
dedication, naive and true
with no power, nothing to do
I still remember, why don’t you.”

For those wanting these college kids to “get off their ass and do something” what do you expect them to do? Run for governor? Drop out of school and get a job at their daddy’s hedge fund? All they’re doing is what is expected of them — working hard and getting an education. They’re holding up their end of the deal, what do you expect them to do when the other side doesn’t hold up their end? They’re in no position of power — really all they’ve got is some free time to cause a bit of a ruckus. More power to them I say.

And I agree that this is all just a little bit of history repeating. I remember protests over rate hikes every year at UCSD when I was there. Life goes on. Those that are worthy of the education they receive will be fine and pay off their debts in good time. Those who aren’t worthy of their own education are the ones who will be in trouble — and rightly so.

[afx114]

I’m not usually one to quote song lyrics, but this little ditty from grunge kings Pearl Jam seems to fit:

“All that’s sacred comes from youth
dedication, naive and true
with no power, nothing to do
I still remember, why don’t you.”

For those wanting these college kids to “get off their ass and do something” what do you expect them to do? Run for governor? Drop out of school and get a job at their daddy’s hedge fund? All they’re doing is what is expected of them — working hard and getting an education. They’re holding up their end of the deal, what do you expect them to do when the other side doesn’t hold up their end? They’re in no position of power — really all they’ve got is some free time to cause a bit of a ruckus. More power to them I say.

And I agree that this is all just a little bit of history repeating. I remember protests over rate hikes every year at UCSD when I was there. Life goes on. Those that are worthy of the education they receive will be fine and pay off their debts in good time. Those who aren’t worthy of their own education are the ones who will be in trouble — and rightly so.

[afx114]

I’m not usually one to quote song lyrics, but this little ditty from grunge kings Pearl Jam seems to fit:

“All that’s sacred comes from youth
dedication, naive and true
with no power, nothing to do
I still remember, why don’t you.”

For those wanting these college kids to “get off their ass and do something” what do you expect them to do? Run for governor? Drop out of school and get a job at their daddy’s hedge fund? All they’re doing is what is expected of them — working hard and getting an education. They’re holding up their end of the deal, what do you expect them to do when the other side doesn’t hold up their end? They’re in no position of power — really all they’ve got is some free time to cause a bit of a ruckus. More power to them I say.

And I agree that this is all just a little bit of history repeating. I remember protests over rate hikes every year at UCSD when I was there. Life goes on. Those that are worthy of the education they receive will be fine and pay off their debts in good time. Those who aren’t worthy of their own education are the ones who will be in trouble — and rightly so.

[afx114]

I’m not usually one to quote song lyrics, but this little ditty from grunge kings Pearl Jam seems to fit:

“All that’s sacred comes from youth
dedication, naive and true
with no power, nothing to do
I still remember, why don’t you.”

For those wanting these college kids to “get off their ass and do something” what do you expect them to do? Run for governor? Drop out of school and get a job at their daddy’s hedge fund? All they’re doing is what is expected of them — working hard and getting an education. They’re holding up their end of the deal, what do you expect them to do when the other side doesn’t hold up their end? They’re in no position of power — really all they’ve got is some free time to cause a bit of a ruckus. More power to them I say.

And I agree that this is all just a little bit of history repeating. I remember protests over rate hikes every year at UCSD when I was there. Life goes on. Those that are worthy of the education they receive will be fine and pay off their debts in good time. Those who aren’t worthy of their own education are the ones who will be in trouble — and rightly so.

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[quote=CA renter]

They (and many/most of us on this site) were told that if they studied and worked hard, their lives would be equal to or better than their parents’. That was the meme for generations.

[/quote]

So all this time, it wasn’t the American Dream, it was the American Meme. I like it!

[alarmclock]

[quote=CA renter]

They (and many/most of us on this site) were told that if they studied and worked hard, their lives would be equal to or better than their parents’. That was the meme for generations.

[/quote]

So all this time, it wasn’t the American Dream, it was the American Meme. I like it!

[alarmclock]

[quote=CA renter]

They (and many/most of us on this site) were told that if they studied and worked hard, their lives would be equal to or better than their parents’. That was the meme for generations.

[/quote]

So all this time, it wasn’t the American Dream, it was the American Meme. I like it!

[alarmclock]

[quote=CA renter]

They (and many/most of us on this site) were told that if they studied and worked hard, their lives would be equal to or better than their parents’. That was the meme for generations.

[/quote]

So all this time, it wasn’t the American Dream, it was the American Meme. I like it!

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