This can’t end well so why should we wait?

[bob2007]

peterb, I would agree. There is a little irony there in my opinion. Although each individual is responsible for their decisions, the gov’t was a major enabler by reducing nearly all standards for gov’t purchasing of loans. So the gov’t makes poor decisions on what they purchase (among many other things), then the next gen moves towards bigger gov’t. That move will ensure they have a lower standard of living than previous college grads.

[scaredyclassic]

ahhh, who knows. I remember graduating in the 80’s from college and thinking similar things. maybe everything will be ok. college kids have felt like this for a long time. as for debt, big whoop. college debt is cool. you can either pay it or you can’t. but they cannot repo your brain. at least that’s what i was thinking through all my various degrees.

[scaredyclassic]

ahhh, who knows. I remember graduating in the 80’s from college and thinking similar things. maybe everything will be ok. college kids have felt like this for a long time. as for debt, big whoop. college debt is cool. you can either pay it or you can’t. but they cannot repo your brain. at least that’s what i was thinking through all my various degrees.

[scaredyclassic]

ahhh, who knows. I remember graduating in the 80’s from college and thinking similar things. maybe everything will be ok. college kids have felt like this for a long time. as for debt, big whoop. college debt is cool. you can either pay it or you can’t. but they cannot repo your brain. at least that’s what i was thinking through all my various degrees.

[scaredyclassic]

ahhh, who knows. I remember graduating in the 80’s from college and thinking similar things. maybe everything will be ok. college kids have felt like this for a long time. as for debt, big whoop. college debt is cool. you can either pay it or you can’t. but they cannot repo your brain. at least that’s what i was thinking through all my various degrees.

[scaredyclassic]

ahhh, who knows. I remember graduating in the 80’s from college and thinking similar things. maybe everything will be ok. college kids have felt like this for a long time. as for debt, big whoop. college debt is cool. you can either pay it or you can’t. but they cannot repo your brain. at least that’s what i was thinking through all my various degrees.

[cabal]

With any generation there are always a set of issues that seem to foreshadow the end of the world. That has been the case since the birth of this nation and somehow, we always manage to adapt, survive, and ultimately prosper. This current crisis is no different. In 20 years, all of this nonsense will have been forgotten, everyone on this board will have survived, and the next generation will be complaining about something else. So calm down, notice it’s a another beautiful sunny day in SD, notice your wife and kids are happy and beautiful, have a beer and go watch football.

Regarding the UC student diatribe, my response is anyone attending UC should feel extremely fortunate. All UC campuses except Merced are ranked in the top 100 nationwide. Admission rates into the flagship campuses of UCB and UCLA are in the 20% range with typical GPAs of 4.3 and SAT well above 2000. Academic reputation, research, rigor, etc. are all top notch on par with the Ivys and other elite institutions, yet the average annual tuition is still at the incredible bargain price of around 8K (25K all inclusive). Unless they choose a major like Philosophy, most of these kids will eventually secure a well paying job. While the timing for the proposed 30% tuition hike couldn’t be worse, one needs to keep in mind that the life cycle return on their educational investment is unbeatable by any measure. If any of the protesting UCLA students wish to give up their admission spot, I guarantee you that there are 100 waiting in line willing to pay double.

[cabal]

With any generation there are always a set of issues that seem to foreshadow the end of the world. That has been the case since the birth of this nation and somehow, we always manage to adapt, survive, and ultimately prosper. This current crisis is no different. In 20 years, all of this nonsense will have been forgotten, everyone on this board will have survived, and the next generation will be complaining about something else. So calm down, notice it’s a another beautiful sunny day in SD, notice your wife and kids are happy and beautiful, have a beer and go watch football.

Regarding the UC student diatribe, my response is anyone attending UC should feel extremely fortunate. All UC campuses except Merced are ranked in the top 100 nationwide. Admission rates into the flagship campuses of UCB and UCLA are in the 20% range with typical GPAs of 4.3 and SAT well above 2000. Academic reputation, research, rigor, etc. are all top notch on par with the Ivys and other elite institutions, yet the average annual tuition is still at the incredible bargain price of around 8K (25K all inclusive). Unless they choose a major like Philosophy, most of these kids will eventually secure a well paying job. While the timing for the proposed 30% tuition hike couldn’t be worse, one needs to keep in mind that the life cycle return on their educational investment is unbeatable by any measure. If any of the protesting UCLA students wish to give up their admission spot, I guarantee you that there are 100 waiting in line willing to pay double.

[cabal]

With any generation there are always a set of issues that seem to foreshadow the end of the world. That has been the case since the birth of this nation and somehow, we always manage to adapt, survive, and ultimately prosper. This current crisis is no different. In 20 years, all of this nonsense will have been forgotten, everyone on this board will have survived, and the next generation will be complaining about something else. So calm down, notice it’s a another beautiful sunny day in SD, notice your wife and kids are happy and beautiful, have a beer and go watch football.

Regarding the UC student diatribe, my response is anyone attending UC should feel extremely fortunate. All UC campuses except Merced are ranked in the top 100 nationwide. Admission rates into the flagship campuses of UCB and UCLA are in the 20% range with typical GPAs of 4.3 and SAT well above 2000. Academic reputation, research, rigor, etc. are all top notch on par with the Ivys and other elite institutions, yet the average annual tuition is still at the incredible bargain price of around 8K (25K all inclusive). Unless they choose a major like Philosophy, most of these kids will eventually secure a well paying job. While the timing for the proposed 30% tuition hike couldn’t be worse, one needs to keep in mind that the life cycle return on their educational investment is unbeatable by any measure. If any of the protesting UCLA students wish to give up their admission spot, I guarantee you that there are 100 waiting in line willing to pay double.

[cabal]

With any generation there are always a set of issues that seem to foreshadow the end of the world. That has been the case since the birth of this nation and somehow, we always manage to adapt, survive, and ultimately prosper. This current crisis is no different. In 20 years, all of this nonsense will have been forgotten, everyone on this board will have survived, and the next generation will be complaining about something else. So calm down, notice it’s a another beautiful sunny day in SD, notice your wife and kids are happy and beautiful, have a beer and go watch football.

Regarding the UC student diatribe, my response is anyone attending UC should feel extremely fortunate. All UC campuses except Merced are ranked in the top 100 nationwide. Admission rates into the flagship campuses of UCB and UCLA are in the 20% range with typical GPAs of 4.3 and SAT well above 2000. Academic reputation, research, rigor, etc. are all top notch on par with the Ivys and other elite institutions, yet the average annual tuition is still at the incredible bargain price of around 8K (25K all inclusive). Unless they choose a major like Philosophy, most of these kids will eventually secure a well paying job. While the timing for the proposed 30% tuition hike couldn’t be worse, one needs to keep in mind that the life cycle return on their educational investment is unbeatable by any measure. If any of the protesting UCLA students wish to give up their admission spot, I guarantee you that there are 100 waiting in line willing to pay double.

[cabal]

With any generation there are always a set of issues that seem to foreshadow the end of the world. That has been the case since the birth of this nation and somehow, we always manage to adapt, survive, and ultimately prosper. This current crisis is no different. In 20 years, all of this nonsense will have been forgotten, everyone on this board will have survived, and the next generation will be complaining about something else. So calm down, notice it’s a another beautiful sunny day in SD, notice your wife and kids are happy and beautiful, have a beer and go watch football.

Regarding the UC student diatribe, my response is anyone attending UC should feel extremely fortunate. All UC campuses except Merced are ranked in the top 100 nationwide. Admission rates into the flagship campuses of UCB and UCLA are in the 20% range with typical GPAs of 4.3 and SAT well above 2000. Academic reputation, research, rigor, etc. are all top notch on par with the Ivys and other elite institutions, yet the average annual tuition is still at the incredible bargain price of around 8K (25K all inclusive). Unless they choose a major like Philosophy, most of these kids will eventually secure a well paying job. While the timing for the proposed 30% tuition hike couldn’t be worse, one needs to keep in mind that the life cycle return on their educational investment is unbeatable by any measure. If any of the protesting UCLA students wish to give up their admission spot, I guarantee you that there are 100 waiting in line willing to pay double.

[KSMountain]

Great post Cabal. Agree.

So let’s see… $3k a year more for *some* of the students (not all). So say $12-15k total.

What’s the payback time on that in terms of their very likely increased salaries over what they’d get as a non college graduate? Probably just a few years to fully recoup the investement.

They’ll be ok.

I also felt that manifesto was pretty whiney. Get to work, invent something, produce something, stop moaning everything is over before you’ve even started.

[KSMountain]

Great post Cabal. Agree.

So let’s see… $3k a year more for *some* of the students (not all). So say $12-15k total.

What’s the payback time on that in terms of their very likely increased salaries over what they’d get as a non college graduate? Probably just a few years to fully recoup the investement.

They’ll be ok.

I also felt that manifesto was pretty whiney. Get to work, invent something, produce something, stop moaning everything is over before you’ve even started.

[KSMountain]

Great post Cabal. Agree.

So let’s see… $3k a year more for *some* of the students (not all). So say $12-15k total.

What’s the payback time on that in terms of their very likely increased salaries over what they’d get as a non college graduate? Probably just a few years to fully recoup the investement.

They’ll be ok.

I also felt that manifesto was pretty whiney. Get to work, invent something, produce something, stop moaning everything is over before you’ve even started.

[KSMountain]

Great post Cabal. Agree.

So let’s see… $3k a year more for *some* of the students (not all). So say $12-15k total.

What’s the payback time on that in terms of their very likely increased salaries over what they’d get as a non college graduate? Probably just a few years to fully recoup the investement.

They’ll be ok.

I also felt that manifesto was pretty whiney. Get to work, invent something, produce something, stop moaning everything is over before you’ve even started.

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