The new smart financial move is walking away

[Hobie]

Is this the part were our liberal friends insert the, “It Takes a Village” and all is well argument. 😉

[Arraya]

Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.

[Arraya]

Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.

[Arraya]

Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.

[Arraya]

Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.

[Arraya]

Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.

[NotCranky]

[quote=Arraya]Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.[/quote]
Straight people should get more credit for not breeding than homosexuals.

That staying single is selfish makes no sense to me unless it is coming from a mother who wants to be a grandmother for any reason including selfish ones.

Also, how does a parent come to feel like they gave up their happiness to have children?

[NotCranky]

[quote=Arraya]Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.[/quote]
Straight people should get more credit for not breeding than homosexuals.

That staying single is selfish makes no sense to me unless it is coming from a mother who wants to be a grandmother for any reason including selfish ones.

Also, how does a parent come to feel like they gave up their happiness to have children?

[NotCranky]

[quote=Arraya]Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.[/quote]
Straight people should get more credit for not breeding than homosexuals.

That staying single is selfish makes no sense to me unless it is coming from a mother who wants to be a grandmother for any reason including selfish ones.

Also, how does a parent come to feel like they gave up their happiness to have children?

[NotCranky]

[quote=Arraya]Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.[/quote]
Straight people should get more credit for not breeding than homosexuals.

That staying single is selfish makes no sense to me unless it is coming from a mother who wants to be a grandmother for any reason including selfish ones.

Also, how does a parent come to feel like they gave up their happiness to have children?

[NotCranky]

[quote=Arraya]Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.[/quote]
Straight people should get more credit for not breeding than homosexuals.

That staying single is selfish makes no sense to me unless it is coming from a mother who wants to be a grandmother for any reason including selfish ones.

Also, how does a parent come to feel like they gave up their happiness to have children?

[CA renter]

[quote=Russell][quote=Arraya]Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.[/quote]
Straight people should get more credit for not breeding than homosexuals.

That staying single is selfish makes no sense to me unless it is coming from a mother who wants to be a grandmother for any reason including selfish ones.

Also, how does a parent come to feel like they gave up their happiness to have children?[/quote]

Agree with dave’s point that having children has a negative environmental impact.

As to the point about selfishness, a parent gives up money, time, and the ability to do whatever they want, whenever they want. They often give up many of their dreams and aspirations for themselves, professionally and personally, when they decide to have children (if you devote the time and energy necessary to properly raise your kids…people always have the option of having nannies raise their kids, I suppose — but that still requires a significant financial sacrifice).

I’d go so far as to say it’s not necessarily “marriage” that makes marriage difficult, but the sacrifices that have to be made once the couple decides to have children. If not for the repercussions of divorce after children (hurting the children, greater financial distress on both sides, logistics of remarrying with kids, etc.), I’d bet the divorce rate for couples with kids would dwarf the divorce rates for DINKs. It really takes a tremendous amount of money, time, energy, etc. to raise kids.

[CA renter]

[quote=Russell][quote=Arraya]Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.[/quote]
Straight people should get more credit for not breeding than homosexuals.

That staying single is selfish makes no sense to me unless it is coming from a mother who wants to be a grandmother for any reason including selfish ones.

Also, how does a parent come to feel like they gave up their happiness to have children?[/quote]

Agree with dave’s point that having children has a negative environmental impact.

As to the point about selfishness, a parent gives up money, time, and the ability to do whatever they want, whenever they want. They often give up many of their dreams and aspirations for themselves, professionally and personally, when they decide to have children (if you devote the time and energy necessary to properly raise your kids…people always have the option of having nannies raise their kids, I suppose — but that still requires a significant financial sacrifice).

I’d go so far as to say it’s not necessarily “marriage” that makes marriage difficult, but the sacrifices that have to be made once the couple decides to have children. If not for the repercussions of divorce after children (hurting the children, greater financial distress on both sides, logistics of remarrying with kids, etc.), I’d bet the divorce rate for couples with kids would dwarf the divorce rates for DINKs. It really takes a tremendous amount of money, time, energy, etc. to raise kids.

[CA renter]

[quote=Russell][quote=Arraya]Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.[/quote]
Straight people should get more credit for not breeding than homosexuals.

That staying single is selfish makes no sense to me unless it is coming from a mother who wants to be a grandmother for any reason including selfish ones.

Also, how does a parent come to feel like they gave up their happiness to have children?[/quote]

Agree with dave’s point that having children has a negative environmental impact.

As to the point about selfishness, a parent gives up money, time, and the ability to do whatever they want, whenever they want. They often give up many of their dreams and aspirations for themselves, professionally and personally, when they decide to have children (if you devote the time and energy necessary to properly raise your kids…people always have the option of having nannies raise their kids, I suppose — but that still requires a significant financial sacrifice).

I’d go so far as to say it’s not necessarily “marriage” that makes marriage difficult, but the sacrifices that have to be made once the couple decides to have children. If not for the repercussions of divorce after children (hurting the children, greater financial distress on both sides, logistics of remarrying with kids, etc.), I’d bet the divorce rate for couples with kids would dwarf the divorce rates for DINKs. It really takes a tremendous amount of money, time, energy, etc. to raise kids.

[CA renter]

[quote=Russell][quote=Arraya]Non-breeders should be encouraged and commended. Straight and homosexuals alike.[/quote]
Straight people should get more credit for not breeding than homosexuals.

That staying single is selfish makes no sense to me unless it is coming from a mother who wants to be a grandmother for any reason including selfish ones.

Also, how does a parent come to feel like they gave up their happiness to have children?[/quote]

Agree with dave’s point that having children has a negative environmental impact.

As to the point about selfishness, a parent gives up money, time, and the ability to do whatever they want, whenever they want. They often give up many of their dreams and aspirations for themselves, professionally and personally, when they decide to have children (if you devote the time and energy necessary to properly raise your kids…people always have the option of having nannies raise their kids, I suppose — but that still requires a significant financial sacrifice).

I’d go so far as to say it’s not necessarily “marriage” that makes marriage difficult, but the sacrifices that have to be made once the couple decides to have children. If not for the repercussions of divorce after children (hurting the children, greater financial distress on both sides, logistics of remarrying with kids, etc.), I’d bet the divorce rate for couples with kids would dwarf the divorce rates for DINKs. It really takes a tremendous amount of money, time, energy, etc. to raise kids.

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