The McMansion Tax

[temeculaguy]

Solar is about to blow up and not to save the world but because the world’s energy market is double what the world’s agricultural market is, follow the money baby. I won’t bore you with the details but there are companies in various countries making advancements so that panels can be cheap, many times more efficient, last longer and need very little sunlight. Some of the technology doesn’t require traditional panels, is clear and can be sprayed onto anything or integrated into things like windows. Once it gets past the cost/benefit threshold it will become mainstream rather than a novelty. What you read was likely about the thin film (like window tint film) which is pretty promising and dirt cheap to produce or the MEG (multiple exiticon generation), simply put, more energy from less sun, you don’t even need sun, just UV. I think the next genration of solar due out in a few years will be cheap enough that rebates won’t be needed for it to make fiscal sense to people. The rough estimates for residential of the new tech is just a few thousand dollars and a 50 year lifespan, with a break even point of a year or two, if that does come to market it will be immensly popular.

[SD Realtor]

tg you are right, it was thin film technology innovation. HOA and CCRs need to accomodate homeowners on this stuff as well. I heard that if you want to plant an environmentally friendly landscape in your yard but the HOA or CCR does not approve that you can fight it.

tg did you ever listen to rome in the early 90’s?

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

tg you are right, it was thin film technology innovation. HOA and CCRs need to accomodate homeowners on this stuff as well. I heard that if you want to plant an environmentally friendly landscape in your yard but the HOA or CCR does not approve that you can fight it.

tg did you ever listen to rome in the early 90’s?

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

tg you are right, it was thin film technology innovation. HOA and CCRs need to accomodate homeowners on this stuff as well. I heard that if you want to plant an environmentally friendly landscape in your yard but the HOA or CCR does not approve that you can fight it.

tg did you ever listen to rome in the early 90’s?

SD Realtor

[sdrealtor]

Rome was better in the early 90’s b4 he got so full of himself but my faves back then were Mason and Cesmatt.

[sdrealtor]

Rome was better in the early 90’s b4 he got so full of himself but my faves back then were Mason and Cesmatt.

[sdrealtor]

Rome was better in the early 90’s b4 he got so full of himself but my faves back then were Mason and Cesmatt.

[denis4x4]

I quit following the Padres after Luke Easter retired!

A couple of thoughts on energy effeciency….We own a 12 unit building in PB and started switching all outside lighting to the floresecents. BUT…now the new bulbs won’t fit in the existing fixtures, including the $18.00 spotlights. Retro-fitting the fixtures is not cost effective.

Telluride CO passed a law requiring that all houses over 5,000 SF would be required to have an employee unit to help solve the affordable housing issue. Check the MLS and you’d be amazed at the number of 4,950 SF houses on the market there!

[denis4x4]

I quit following the Padres after Luke Easter retired!

A couple of thoughts on energy effeciency….We own a 12 unit building in PB and started switching all outside lighting to the floresecents. BUT…now the new bulbs won’t fit in the existing fixtures, including the $18.00 spotlights. Retro-fitting the fixtures is not cost effective.

Telluride CO passed a law requiring that all houses over 5,000 SF would be required to have an employee unit to help solve the affordable housing issue. Check the MLS and you’d be amazed at the number of 4,950 SF houses on the market there!

[denis4x4]

I quit following the Padres after Luke Easter retired!

A couple of thoughts on energy effeciency….We own a 12 unit building in PB and started switching all outside lighting to the floresecents. BUT…now the new bulbs won’t fit in the existing fixtures, including the $18.00 spotlights. Retro-fitting the fixtures is not cost effective.

Telluride CO passed a law requiring that all houses over 5,000 SF would be required to have an employee unit to help solve the affordable housing issue. Check the MLS and you’d be amazed at the number of 4,950 SF houses on the market there!

[cyphire]

I think that somewhat it is still a cottage industry – the cost of labor and installation seems to be a sticking point. Sort of like wiring guys…. At my company, the wiring guys make 40K. If you get a company to come to your house and run cat-5, etc. you might pay 1,000 / day / per guy! (Or more). These guys aren’t making 300K, they make 40K. The companies that charge for them don’t do it in huge volume, so it is a somewhat cottage industry. Same in solar.

We need solar installers to be like Dish Network or cable guys. Where the cost of installing is part of the cost of the materials, and the labor is not jacked up by 800%!

[cyphire]

I think that somewhat it is still a cottage industry – the cost of labor and installation seems to be a sticking point. Sort of like wiring guys…. At my company, the wiring guys make 40K. If you get a company to come to your house and run cat-5, etc. you might pay 1,000 / day / per guy! (Or more). These guys aren’t making 300K, they make 40K. The companies that charge for them don’t do it in huge volume, so it is a somewhat cottage industry. Same in solar.

We need solar installers to be like Dish Network or cable guys. Where the cost of installing is part of the cost of the materials, and the labor is not jacked up by 800%!

[cyphire]

I think that somewhat it is still a cottage industry – the cost of labor and installation seems to be a sticking point. Sort of like wiring guys…. At my company, the wiring guys make 40K. If you get a company to come to your house and run cat-5, etc. you might pay 1,000 / day / per guy! (Or more). These guys aren’t making 300K, they make 40K. The companies that charge for them don’t do it in huge volume, so it is a somewhat cottage industry. Same in solar.

We need solar installers to be like Dish Network or cable guys. Where the cost of installing is part of the cost of the materials, and the labor is not jacked up by 800%!

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