The city that outsourced everything

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[quote=CA renter]

We won’t even get into the details of the taxpayer-funded physical, legal, and social infrastructure that enables everyone else to focus on work instead of having to focus on survival. [/quote]

Apparently you don’t work in the private sector.

[patb]

[quote=meadandale]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/sandy-springs-georgia-privatize-outsource_n_852466.html

The comments are hilarious. The fact that this solution is tenable and has worked drives the pro big government and pro union people nuts.

Unfortunately, San Diego would go bankrupt before our leaders would have the political will to try something like this (in spite of the lip service that Sanders has given to outsourcing city services).[/quote]

What is the minimum profit on putting out a fire?

If a fire isn’t profitable, will the company put it out?

If a fire is profitable, is there more profit in making it worse?

if business is slow, is there a profit in setting fires?

[patb]

[quote=meadandale]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/sandy-springs-georgia-privatize-outsource_n_852466.html

The comments are hilarious. The fact that this solution is tenable and has worked drives the pro big government and pro union people nuts.

Unfortunately, San Diego would go bankrupt before our leaders would have the political will to try something like this (in spite of the lip service that Sanders has given to outsourcing city services).[/quote]

What is the minimum profit on putting out a fire?

If a fire isn’t profitable, will the company put it out?

If a fire is profitable, is there more profit in making it worse?

if business is slow, is there a profit in setting fires?

[patb]

[quote=meadandale]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/sandy-springs-georgia-privatize-outsource_n_852466.html

The comments are hilarious. The fact that this solution is tenable and has worked drives the pro big government and pro union people nuts.

Unfortunately, San Diego would go bankrupt before our leaders would have the political will to try something like this (in spite of the lip service that Sanders has given to outsourcing city services).[/quote]

What is the minimum profit on putting out a fire?

If a fire isn’t profitable, will the company put it out?

If a fire is profitable, is there more profit in making it worse?

if business is slow, is there a profit in setting fires?

[patb]

[quote=meadandale]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/sandy-springs-georgia-privatize-outsource_n_852466.html

The comments are hilarious. The fact that this solution is tenable and has worked drives the pro big government and pro union people nuts.

Unfortunately, San Diego would go bankrupt before our leaders would have the political will to try something like this (in spite of the lip service that Sanders has given to outsourcing city services).[/quote]

What is the minimum profit on putting out a fire?

If a fire isn’t profitable, will the company put it out?

If a fire is profitable, is there more profit in making it worse?

if business is slow, is there a profit in setting fires?

[patb]

[quote=meadandale]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/sandy-springs-georgia-privatize-outsource_n_852466.html

The comments are hilarious. The fact that this solution is tenable and has worked drives the pro big government and pro union people nuts.

Unfortunately, San Diego would go bankrupt before our leaders would have the political will to try something like this (in spite of the lip service that Sanders has given to outsourcing city services).[/quote]

What is the minimum profit on putting out a fire?

If a fire isn’t profitable, will the company put it out?

If a fire is profitable, is there more profit in making it worse?

if business is slow, is there a profit in setting fires?

[meadandale]

[quote=patb][quote=meadandale]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/sandy-springs-georgia-privatize-outsource_n_852466.html

The comments are hilarious. The fact that this solution is tenable and has worked drives the pro big government and pro union people nuts.

Unfortunately, San Diego would go bankrupt before our leaders would have the political will to try something like this (in spite of the lip service that Sanders has given to outsourcing city services).[/quote]

What is the minimum profit on putting out a fire?

If a fire isn’t profitable, will the company put it out?

If a fire is profitable, is there more profit in making it worse?

if business is slow, is there a profit in setting fires?[/quote]

Clearly you didn’t read the article; they didn’t outsource public safety. However, you are assuming that ‘not for profit’ government is always looking out for your best interests and has no profit motive. I’d say that they definitely do have a profit motive and the unions are the ‘shareholders’ who benefit from that profit.

And then there is this little gem:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/042111-house-next-to-fire-station-burns-down

[meadandale]

[quote=patb][quote=meadandale]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/sandy-springs-georgia-privatize-outsource_n_852466.html

The comments are hilarious. The fact that this solution is tenable and has worked drives the pro big government and pro union people nuts.

Unfortunately, San Diego would go bankrupt before our leaders would have the political will to try something like this (in spite of the lip service that Sanders has given to outsourcing city services).[/quote]

What is the minimum profit on putting out a fire?

If a fire isn’t profitable, will the company put it out?

If a fire is profitable, is there more profit in making it worse?

if business is slow, is there a profit in setting fires?[/quote]

Clearly you didn’t read the article; they didn’t outsource public safety. However, you are assuming that ‘not for profit’ government is always looking out for your best interests and has no profit motive. I’d say that they definitely do have a profit motive and the unions are the ‘shareholders’ who benefit from that profit.

And then there is this little gem:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/042111-house-next-to-fire-station-burns-down

[meadandale]

[quote=patb][quote=meadandale]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/sandy-springs-georgia-privatize-outsource_n_852466.html

The comments are hilarious. The fact that this solution is tenable and has worked drives the pro big government and pro union people nuts.

Unfortunately, San Diego would go bankrupt before our leaders would have the political will to try something like this (in spite of the lip service that Sanders has given to outsourcing city services).[/quote]

What is the minimum profit on putting out a fire?

If a fire isn’t profitable, will the company put it out?

If a fire is profitable, is there more profit in making it worse?

if business is slow, is there a profit in setting fires?[/quote]

Clearly you didn’t read the article; they didn’t outsource public safety. However, you are assuming that ‘not for profit’ government is always looking out for your best interests and has no profit motive. I’d say that they definitely do have a profit motive and the unions are the ‘shareholders’ who benefit from that profit.

And then there is this little gem:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/042111-house-next-to-fire-station-burns-down

[meadandale]

[quote=patb][quote=meadandale]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/sandy-springs-georgia-privatize-outsource_n_852466.html

The comments are hilarious. The fact that this solution is tenable and has worked drives the pro big government and pro union people nuts.

Unfortunately, San Diego would go bankrupt before our leaders would have the political will to try something like this (in spite of the lip service that Sanders has given to outsourcing city services).[/quote]

What is the minimum profit on putting out a fire?

If a fire isn’t profitable, will the company put it out?

If a fire is profitable, is there more profit in making it worse?

if business is slow, is there a profit in setting fires?[/quote]

Clearly you didn’t read the article; they didn’t outsource public safety. However, you are assuming that ‘not for profit’ government is always looking out for your best interests and has no profit motive. I’d say that they definitely do have a profit motive and the unions are the ‘shareholders’ who benefit from that profit.

And then there is this little gem:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/042111-house-next-to-fire-station-burns-down

[meadandale]

[quote=patb][quote=meadandale]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/sandy-springs-georgia-privatize-outsource_n_852466.html

The comments are hilarious. The fact that this solution is tenable and has worked drives the pro big government and pro union people nuts.

Unfortunately, San Diego would go bankrupt before our leaders would have the political will to try something like this (in spite of the lip service that Sanders has given to outsourcing city services).[/quote]

What is the minimum profit on putting out a fire?

If a fire isn’t profitable, will the company put it out?

If a fire is profitable, is there more profit in making it worse?

if business is slow, is there a profit in setting fires?[/quote]

Clearly you didn’t read the article; they didn’t outsource public safety. However, you are assuming that ‘not for profit’ government is always looking out for your best interests and has no profit motive. I’d say that they definitely do have a profit motive and the unions are the ‘shareholders’ who benefit from that profit.

And then there is this little gem:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/042111-house-next-to-fire-station-burns-down

[UCGal]

[quote=gandalf]Wealthy community. Lots of businesses. Good tax base. Sure is nice.

There are legitimate reasons to outsource, especially nowadays. Cost structures, labor relations, service levels, strategic change, etc.

Corporate does not necessarily equate to ‘better’ or ‘more efficient’ though. It’s case by case. In fact, in many documented cases, corporate outsourcing has reduced service levels and increased costs.

It really depends on the details, and this piece is mostly fluff.

Also, let’s definitely stop comparing California and Georgia. California is a great state.

Georgia is a shitty little southern swamp. It’s a sweaty fucking backwater, a racist armpit whose biggest growth industry is competing with India and Bangladesh for $8/hour call center business.[/quote]

I’ve lived in several states – the shortest tenure was in Georgia. I moved there from Pennsylvania, to take a job. Thank goodness I had trouble selling my house in Pennsylvania because 3 months later I was fleeing in horror.

Georgia looks nice on the outside – I was living in Atlanta – supposedly a nice place, full of educated professionals. Oh my goodness was I in for a shock. Open, blatent racism. Super high crime even in the nice neighborhoods. And the locals lack of openness to anyone not from the south. This Yankee scrambled back to Philly, quitting my job, and fleeing in terror.

In the 3 months I lived there I had my car broken into twice. After the first time I talked to coworkers who advised me to never lock my car – because that results in broken windows (as it did.) So the second time they didn’t break my window – just pulled out the maps out of the glove box and stole my cd player. (Which had just been replaced after the first break in.) I also had things stolen off my front porch, and mail went missing.

This was the late nineties – things may have changed. After my first break in I did some research and learned that Atlanta was in the top 5 cities for violent crime and murder. So much for southern hospitality.

Not enough money in the world to make me move there again. I don’t have the same reaction to WA state or PA… the other non-Cali states I’ve lived in.

[UCGal]

[quote=gandalf]Wealthy community. Lots of businesses. Good tax base. Sure is nice.

There are legitimate reasons to outsource, especially nowadays. Cost structures, labor relations, service levels, strategic change, etc.

Corporate does not necessarily equate to ‘better’ or ‘more efficient’ though. It’s case by case. In fact, in many documented cases, corporate outsourcing has reduced service levels and increased costs.

It really depends on the details, and this piece is mostly fluff.

Also, let’s definitely stop comparing California and Georgia. California is a great state.

Georgia is a shitty little southern swamp. It’s a sweaty fucking backwater, a racist armpit whose biggest growth industry is competing with India and Bangladesh for $8/hour call center business.[/quote]

I’ve lived in several states – the shortest tenure was in Georgia. I moved there from Pennsylvania, to take a job. Thank goodness I had trouble selling my house in Pennsylvania because 3 months later I was fleeing in horror.

Georgia looks nice on the outside – I was living in Atlanta – supposedly a nice place, full of educated professionals. Oh my goodness was I in for a shock. Open, blatent racism. Super high crime even in the nice neighborhoods. And the locals lack of openness to anyone not from the south. This Yankee scrambled back to Philly, quitting my job, and fleeing in terror.

In the 3 months I lived there I had my car broken into twice. After the first time I talked to coworkers who advised me to never lock my car – because that results in broken windows (as it did.) So the second time they didn’t break my window – just pulled out the maps out of the glove box and stole my cd player. (Which had just been replaced after the first break in.) I also had things stolen off my front porch, and mail went missing.

This was the late nineties – things may have changed. After my first break in I did some research and learned that Atlanta was in the top 5 cities for violent crime and murder. So much for southern hospitality.

Not enough money in the world to make me move there again. I don’t have the same reaction to WA state or PA… the other non-Cali states I’ve lived in.

[UCGal]

[quote=gandalf]Wealthy community. Lots of businesses. Good tax base. Sure is nice.

There are legitimate reasons to outsource, especially nowadays. Cost structures, labor relations, service levels, strategic change, etc.

Corporate does not necessarily equate to ‘better’ or ‘more efficient’ though. It’s case by case. In fact, in many documented cases, corporate outsourcing has reduced service levels and increased costs.

It really depends on the details, and this piece is mostly fluff.

Also, let’s definitely stop comparing California and Georgia. California is a great state.

Georgia is a shitty little southern swamp. It’s a sweaty fucking backwater, a racist armpit whose biggest growth industry is competing with India and Bangladesh for $8/hour call center business.[/quote]

I’ve lived in several states – the shortest tenure was in Georgia. I moved there from Pennsylvania, to take a job. Thank goodness I had trouble selling my house in Pennsylvania because 3 months later I was fleeing in horror.

Georgia looks nice on the outside – I was living in Atlanta – supposedly a nice place, full of educated professionals. Oh my goodness was I in for a shock. Open, blatent racism. Super high crime even in the nice neighborhoods. And the locals lack of openness to anyone not from the south. This Yankee scrambled back to Philly, quitting my job, and fleeing in terror.

In the 3 months I lived there I had my car broken into twice. After the first time I talked to coworkers who advised me to never lock my car – because that results in broken windows (as it did.) So the second time they didn’t break my window – just pulled out the maps out of the glove box and stole my cd player. (Which had just been replaced after the first break in.) I also had things stolen off my front porch, and mail went missing.

This was the late nineties – things may have changed. After my first break in I did some research and learned that Atlanta was in the top 5 cities for violent crime and murder. So much for southern hospitality.

Not enough money in the world to make me move there again. I don’t have the same reaction to WA state or PA… the other non-Cali states I’ve lived in.

[UCGal]

[quote=gandalf]Wealthy community. Lots of businesses. Good tax base. Sure is nice.

There are legitimate reasons to outsource, especially nowadays. Cost structures, labor relations, service levels, strategic change, etc.

Corporate does not necessarily equate to ‘better’ or ‘more efficient’ though. It’s case by case. In fact, in many documented cases, corporate outsourcing has reduced service levels and increased costs.

It really depends on the details, and this piece is mostly fluff.

Also, let’s definitely stop comparing California and Georgia. California is a great state.

Georgia is a shitty little southern swamp. It’s a sweaty fucking backwater, a racist armpit whose biggest growth industry is competing with India and Bangladesh for $8/hour call center business.[/quote]

I’ve lived in several states – the shortest tenure was in Georgia. I moved there from Pennsylvania, to take a job. Thank goodness I had trouble selling my house in Pennsylvania because 3 months later I was fleeing in horror.

Georgia looks nice on the outside – I was living in Atlanta – supposedly a nice place, full of educated professionals. Oh my goodness was I in for a shock. Open, blatent racism. Super high crime even in the nice neighborhoods. And the locals lack of openness to anyone not from the south. This Yankee scrambled back to Philly, quitting my job, and fleeing in terror.

In the 3 months I lived there I had my car broken into twice. After the first time I talked to coworkers who advised me to never lock my car – because that results in broken windows (as it did.) So the second time they didn’t break my window – just pulled out the maps out of the glove box and stole my cd player. (Which had just been replaced after the first break in.) I also had things stolen off my front porch, and mail went missing.

This was the late nineties – things may have changed. After my first break in I did some research and learned that Atlanta was in the top 5 cities for violent crime and murder. So much for southern hospitality.

Not enough money in the world to make me move there again. I don’t have the same reaction to WA state or PA… the other non-Cali states I’ve lived in.

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