Surreal State of the State Speech

[desmond]

“The pension system is a time bomb – I’ve brought this up many times. However the problems with the pension system do not impact the current budget. (It’s just our children that will bear this massive burden.)”

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“In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”

This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/

[Anonymous]

[quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]

How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?

What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?

I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.

[Anonymous]

[quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]

How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?

What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?

I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.

[Anonymous]

[quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]

How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?

What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?

I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.

[Anonymous]

[quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]

How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?

What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?

I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.

[Anonymous]

[quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]

How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?

What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?

I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.

[Anonymous]

[quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”

This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D

Fair points.

Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.

[Anonymous]

[quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”

This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D

Fair points.

Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.

[Anonymous]

[quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”

This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D

Fair points.

Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.

[Anonymous]

[quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”

This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D

Fair points.

Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.

[Anonymous]

[quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”

This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D

Fair points.

Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.

[all]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=EconProf]CA prisoners cost the state $51,000 per year.[/quote]

In other words, we spend about as much on a single prisoner as we do per teacher in a classroom with 25+ students.[/quote]

Adjusted for cost of living, California spends $7,571 per student, compared to $9,963 per student nationally.
California slips a notch in per pupil expenditures

I taught high school Math for a year fresh out of college. The pay was less than half of what I made in the first year of my next job, the kids were annoying and the parents were worse.

[all]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=EconProf]CA prisoners cost the state $51,000 per year.[/quote]

In other words, we spend about as much on a single prisoner as we do per teacher in a classroom with 25+ students.[/quote]

Adjusted for cost of living, California spends $7,571 per student, compared to $9,963 per student nationally.
California slips a notch in per pupil expenditures

I taught high school Math for a year fresh out of college. The pay was less than half of what I made in the first year of my next job, the kids were annoying and the parents were worse.

[all]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=EconProf]CA prisoners cost the state $51,000 per year.[/quote]

In other words, we spend about as much on a single prisoner as we do per teacher in a classroom with 25+ students.[/quote]

Adjusted for cost of living, California spends $7,571 per student, compared to $9,963 per student nationally.
California slips a notch in per pupil expenditures

I taught high school Math for a year fresh out of college. The pay was less than half of what I made in the first year of my next job, the kids were annoying and the parents were worse.

[all]

[quote=pri_dk][quote=EconProf]CA prisoners cost the state $51,000 per year.[/quote]

In other words, we spend about as much on a single prisoner as we do per teacher in a classroom with 25+ students.[/quote]

Adjusted for cost of living, California spends $7,571 per student, compared to $9,963 per student nationally.
California slips a notch in per pupil expenditures

I taught high school Math for a year fresh out of college. The pay was less than half of what I made in the first year of my next job, the kids were annoying and the parents were worse.

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