San Diego Fire Chief retires at 53 with $123K/yr pension for life…

[ucodegen]

A CEO of a 1000 employee company (about the size of the San Diego firefighting force) probably would make at LEAST about 100K more per year than she did in terms of salary (and more likely, significantly more – and for what, in my opinion, is a lot less responsibility).

Why are we comparing their salaries to other salaries that we generally consider excessive.. like CEOs..??
1) Public sector positions are virtually guaranteed for life, private sector jobs aren’t.
2) With a private sector job, a mistake can destroy the company. With a public sector job, a mistake means that taxes are likely to be raised.. Higher job risk on the private sector.
3) Public sector jobs ‘maintain’ a status quo (they are in a guaranteed market). Private sector jobs have to innovate and fight to get their niche in the market place.

People make a big deal on risks to the lives of police. The reality is that it is described as being hours of boredom broking by seconds of sheer terror. The whole working day of a police officer is not the sheer terror.. This is also why you see so many police cars in a chase.. most of them are bored and this is some excitement.

As for survivability, I would like to see references to the studies.. By the way, life expectancy for whites is 78 for white, 73 for black (a 5 year deviation right there and 7 was mentioned.. making it 70?.. which is after retirement anyway). White male is 75.7, white female is 80.8..

[ucodegen]

my experience is that most people running large organizations got there (and are making the 250k-350k salaries you mention or even more) not because no one else wanted or could do the job, but because they were good at working the politics and self promoting. Often the best in our companies do not receive the recognition or the pay they deserve while the manipulative do. Just my experience though.

And it is even more so in the public sector.. because if there is a screw-up.. we just raise the taxes. Consequences on bureaucratic mistakes are less, so the system doesn’t ‘self-correct’ as well. Bad CEOs are removed when their company goes bankrupt of the stockholders/directors vote them out. In the public sector, it tends to be a different story — promoted diagonally.

[ucodegen]

my experience is that most people running large organizations got there (and are making the 250k-350k salaries you mention or even more) not because no one else wanted or could do the job, but because they were good at working the politics and self promoting. Often the best in our companies do not receive the recognition or the pay they deserve while the manipulative do. Just my experience though.

And it is even more so in the public sector.. because if there is a screw-up.. we just raise the taxes. Consequences on bureaucratic mistakes are less, so the system doesn’t ‘self-correct’ as well. Bad CEOs are removed when their company goes bankrupt of the stockholders/directors vote them out. In the public sector, it tends to be a different story — promoted diagonally.

[ucodegen]

my experience is that most people running large organizations got there (and are making the 250k-350k salaries you mention or even more) not because no one else wanted or could do the job, but because they were good at working the politics and self promoting. Often the best in our companies do not receive the recognition or the pay they deserve while the manipulative do. Just my experience though.

And it is even more so in the public sector.. because if there is a screw-up.. we just raise the taxes. Consequences on bureaucratic mistakes are less, so the system doesn’t ‘self-correct’ as well. Bad CEOs are removed when their company goes bankrupt of the stockholders/directors vote them out. In the public sector, it tends to be a different story — promoted diagonally.

[ucodegen]

my experience is that most people running large organizations got there (and are making the 250k-350k salaries you mention or even more) not because no one else wanted or could do the job, but because they were good at working the politics and self promoting. Often the best in our companies do not receive the recognition or the pay they deserve while the manipulative do. Just my experience though.

And it is even more so in the public sector.. because if there is a screw-up.. we just raise the taxes. Consequences on bureaucratic mistakes are less, so the system doesn’t ‘self-correct’ as well. Bad CEOs are removed when their company goes bankrupt of the stockholders/directors vote them out. In the public sector, it tends to be a different story — promoted diagonally.

[ucodegen]

my experience is that most people running large organizations got there (and are making the 250k-350k salaries you mention or even more) not because no one else wanted or could do the job, but because they were good at working the politics and self promoting. Often the best in our companies do not receive the recognition or the pay they deserve while the manipulative do. Just my experience though.

And it is even more so in the public sector.. because if there is a screw-up.. we just raise the taxes. Consequences on bureaucratic mistakes are less, so the system doesn’t ‘self-correct’ as well. Bad CEOs are removed when their company goes bankrupt of the stockholders/directors vote them out. In the public sector, it tends to be a different story — promoted diagonally.

[Aecetia]

At least she did not take a tax free “stress” retirement. Look at the CHP “Chiefs disease.”

http://lists.cacities.org/pipermail/employee_relations/2004-December/000729.html

[Aecetia]

At least she did not take a tax free “stress” retirement. Look at the CHP “Chiefs disease.”

http://lists.cacities.org/pipermail/employee_relations/2004-December/000729.html

[Aecetia]

At least she did not take a tax free “stress” retirement. Look at the CHP “Chiefs disease.”

http://lists.cacities.org/pipermail/employee_relations/2004-December/000729.html

[Aecetia]

At least she did not take a tax free “stress” retirement. Look at the CHP “Chiefs disease.”

http://lists.cacities.org/pipermail/employee_relations/2004-December/000729.html

[Aecetia]

At least she did not take a tax free “stress” retirement. Look at the CHP “Chiefs disease.”

http://lists.cacities.org/pipermail/employee_relations/2004-December/000729.html

[PadreBrian]

THANK GOD they are cutting that retirement plan. Good lord that thing would have milked us dry.

[PadreBrian]

THANK GOD they are cutting that retirement plan. Good lord that thing would have milked us dry.

[PadreBrian]

THANK GOD they are cutting that retirement plan. Good lord that thing would have milked us dry.

[PadreBrian]

THANK GOD they are cutting that retirement plan. Good lord that thing would have milked us dry.

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