Right-Wing Media are Destroying Our Country

[outtamojo]

Actually they were outnumbered 4 Novembers ago by about 3 million- which is why the voter suppression engine has to be running all the time.

[zk]

[quote=outtamojo]Actually they were outnumbered 4 Novembers ago by about 3 million- which is why the voter suppression engine has to be running all the time.[/quote]

So true.

Between propaganda, voter suppression, and the republican electoral college advantage, democrats are going to have to work awful hard to win this election.

[FlyerInHi]

I watched the movie. It’s pretty accurate.
The mother sure has a lot of patience and love for her husband. He’s so lucky to have her.

[phaster]

[quote=pinkflamingo]
…I had the unfortunate experience of posting on fb about the recent “When the looting starts, the shooting starts” and “only good Democrat is a dead Democrat” tweets. In-laws jumped to say, democrats are pro violence just look at ANTIFA. They can’t even admit that something so egregious is wrong coming from a president.

It’s been a challenge having chronic fox news in-laws. We have been trying to ameliorate the situation but it’s exacerbating probably because of the pandemic and election year. We’ve found a documentary, “Brainwashing of My Dad.” It’s on amazon. We enjoyed the back story of fox news the progression of news in general. Essentially fox news uses anger to attract viewers, which explains why most of them are so angry most of the time.
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WRT POTUS tweets, its a diversion tactic which he has used before when his “leadership” management style turns a situation he is involved into shit

as I see things TRUMPs genius is being a pitch man (that some find his branding appealing) but looking @ the bottom line seems everything he is involved in, ends up in the toilet,… lets hope when he leaves office the USA does not end up like his investments in airlines, casinos, etc.

since ya have chronic fox news in-laws,… why not embrace the FOX /TRUMP “patriotic branding” next time they visit???

take a look at these “Uncle Sam” images for example and ya might have a laugh

after reading about the 100k milestone

https://time.com/5843349/coronavirus-death-toll-100000/

just sayin’ its refreshing to have a politician deliver on his promise (i.e. trump’s inaugural address tag line “AMERICA FIRST”)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIwpUI9vXzk

[pinkflamingo]

This just happened. Is this in America?

Please make this go viral. I am begging you. Police and National Guard patrolling neighborhood and shooting civilians on their own property. Make America see this, I beg you. [Minneapolis]
by in Bad_Cop_No_Donut

@Flyer, Fox News has gotten worse and so has their rhetoric. Last vacation we had, in-laws talked about how Kavanaugh was innocent daily. At first I responded, well it seems strange a Stanford professor would put herself out there. It’s not like she has lack of means and needs to lie. Not to mention he does have a problem with alcohol and blacking out. But I resorted to stay neutral and said that it’s something that happened decades ago with no witnesses only the two of them knows what happened. They continued to hound us to agree that he was innocent daily. Finally my spouse said, hey let’s not talk about this on our vacation, to which they were like these kids these days, they care about nothing important. Fox News make people so antagonistic. I’m okay if our opinions are different, but Fox News makes people mad to even talk about things.

Recently I quoted a wsj article stating that the test kits were lacking. In-laws were like “That’s liberal propaganda!” When someone says the wsj is liberal propaganda … I don’t think we can have a rational conversation.

My spouse is wonderful and not brainwashed. We don’t have cable TV. In-laws are nice people they actually give money to family members in need and donate to UC and are highly educated, we all are. One of them actually voted for Clinton way back when. Like the movie, I hope that if they get any other source of news they would see Fox for what it is. The issue is would they ever choose to?

[PCinSD]

[quote=pinkflamingo]Fox News has gotten worse and so has their rhetoric. Fox News make people so antagonistic. I’m okay if our opinions are different, but Fox News makes people mad to even talk about things. I hope that if they get any other source of news they would see Fox for what it is. [/quote]

It appears that people who dislike Fox watch it all the time. And then go online to complain about Fox. There are many more news options available for those who don’t like Fox. Take your pick and change the channel. In the meantime, Fox thanks you for your support.

[zk]

[quote=PCinSD]

It appears that people who dislike Fox watch it all the time. And then go online to complain about Fox. There are many more news options available for those who don’t like Fox. Take your pick and change the channel. In the meantime, Fox thanks you for your support.[/quote]

People who dislike fox and watch it anyway obviously aren’t watching it to get news. And, by definition, they’re not watching it because they like it. They’re watching it to keep track of whatever nonsense propaganda fox is spreading or to understand their friends/relatives who fall for whatever fox is spewing or for other, similar reasons.

I occasionally watch fox just to make sure that I’m not wrong when I say that it’s propaganda. It usually doesn’t take more than a few seconds before it’s quite obvious that I’m not.

Of course people watch fox and then go and complain about it online. Fox is the largest, most important piece of the right-wing propaganda machine. It is a great danger to our country, and to ignore it would be like ignoring the coronavirus or global warming or donald trump.

[outtamojo]

[quote=PCinSD][quote=pinkflamingo]Fox News has gotten worse and so has their rhetoric. Fox News make people so antagonistic. I’m okay if our opinions are different, but Fox News makes people mad to even talk about things. I hope that if they get any other source of news they would see Fox for what it is. [/quote]

It appears that people who dislike Fox watch it all the time. And then go online to complain about Fox. There are many more news options available for those who don’t like Fox. Take your pick and change the channel. In the meantime, Fox thanks you for your support.[/quote]

And people should just stop using Twitter and FB if they feel their voices are being suppressed.

[FlyerInHi]

I have Sling TV so I have Fox News. However, I only sometimes watch Fox on YouTube, just to see what they’re thinking. If you cast YouTube to TV and have auto-play on, it will play one Fox segment after another.
They are very angry people.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=pinkflamingo]In-laws jumped to say, democrats are pro violence just look at ANTIFA. They can’t even admit that something so egregious is wrong coming from a president.
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Today, a dude said the same thing to me.
The right wingers are really paranoid about antifa, but they don’t even what it is. It’s paranoia fanned by the right wing media.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/5/21281581/antifa-bus-hoax-trump-misinformation-protests-police
Antifa bus’ hoaxes are spreading panic through small-town America
Misinformation leads to suspicion and even police action

[PCinSD]

[quote=zk]People who dislike fox and watch it anyway obviously aren’t watching it to get news.[/quote]
Of course not, we’re talking about thoughtful, rational individuals who are keeping an open mind.
[quote=zk]And, by definition, they’re not watching it because they like it.[/quote]
Hold the phone. Is it your assertion that people who dislike something . . . do not like it? I’ll admit, I had that one backwards.
[quote=zk]They’re watching it to keep track of whatever nonsense propaganda fox is spreading or to understand their friends/relatives who fall for whatever fox is spewing or for other, similar reasons.[/quote]
Sounds perfectly normal to me. As long as it’s only viewed for other similar reasons. It’s a slippery slope that can lead to a bunch of bad stuff.
[quote=zk]I occasionally watch fox just to make sure that I’m not wrong when I say that it’s propaganda. It usually doesn’t take more than a few seconds before it’s quite obvious that I’m not.[/quote]
If I had a nickel for everytime I’ve used this same objective approach. It’s legit research. This also reminds me to delete my browser history. I may have viewed a site or too that I disliked, but needed to confirm it once or 50 times. By definition, I did not visit those sites because I liked them. Nope.
[quote=zk]Of course people watch fox and then go and complain about it online. Fox is the largest, most important piece of the right-wing propaganda machine.[/quote]
And apparently enjoys a vast viewership of many rational objective people who really really dislike it. But, research is important. Way to stick it to them.
[quote=zk]It is a great danger to our country, and to ignore it would be like ignoring the coronavirus or global warming or donald trump.[/quote]
Ok, now you have me worried. I may have underestimated the danger. Are you saying it’s too late for the country? There must be a way to shut them down.

[zk]

[quote=PCinSD][quote=zk]People who dislike fox and watch it anyway obviously aren’t watching it to get news.[/quote]
Of course not, we’re talking about thoughtful, rational individuals who are keeping an open mind.
[quote=zk]And, by definition, they’re not watching it because they like it.[/quote]
Hold the phone. Is it your assertion that people who dislike something . . . do not like it? I’ll admit, I had that one backwards.
[quote=zk]They’re watching it to keep track of whatever nonsense propaganda fox is spreading or to understand their friends/relatives who fall for whatever fox is spewing or for other, similar reasons.[/quote]
Sounds perfectly normal to me. As long as it’s only viewed for other similar reasons. It’s a slippery slope that can lead to a bunch of bad stuff.
[quote=zk]I occasionally watch fox just to make sure that I’m not wrong when I say that it’s propaganda. It usually doesn’t take more than a few seconds before it’s quite obvious that I’m not.[/quote]
If I had a nickel for everytime I’ve used this same objective approach. It’s legit research. This also reminds me to delete my browser history. I may have viewed a site or too that I disliked, but needed to confirm it once or 50 times. By definition, I did not visit those sites because I liked them. Nope.
[quote=zk]Of course people watch fox and then go and complain about it online. Fox is the largest, most important piece of the right-wing propaganda machine.[/quote]
And apparently enjoys a vast viewership of many rational objective people who really really dislike it. But, research is important. Way to stick it to them.
[quote=zk]It is a great danger to our country, and to ignore it would be like ignoring the coronavirus or global warming or donald trump.[/quote]
Ok, now you have me worried. I may have underestimated the danger. Are you saying it’s too late for the country? There must be a way to shut them down.[/quote]

You seem to be trying to make a point (or several) using sarcasm and straw men. You’re failing miserably. If you have something to say, say it. That way I can expose it for the nonsense it is. And I won’t be using sarcasm or straw men. I’ll be using logic and reason.

[PCinSD]

[quote=zk]
You seem to be trying to make a point (or several) using sarcasm and straw men. You’re failing miserably. If you have something to say, say it. That way I can expose it for the nonsense it is. And I won’t be using sarcasm or straw men. I’ll be using logic and reason.[/quote]
I’m imagining you saying this with a Liam Neeson accent. Goosebumps.

But in all seriousness, Zk, you are too kind to a fault. I appreciate you.

[scaredyclassic]

I have a former colleague who sounds so intensely fox news deep state george soros conspiracy that to my ears he sounds like he is actually insane.

And im pretty open to wacko stuff. But, yknow, i try to keep my eye on the exits, dont think i know the truth and everyone else is blind.

I mean, it just starts to get really deep in the weeds really quick with malicious motives everywhere.

Cruises are evil is a slightly wacky statement that is just my particular moral judgment, and seems qualitatively different than george soros is trying to control our society covertly through drugged chocolate fountains on cruise ships.

But msybe its not so different. Maybe hes just saying soros is evil?

But i am not trying to say society is at grave risk because of cruise ships. I aso dont feel like people are being tricked or manipulated. I just think they dont care one iota.

Also it feels lkke, maybe wrongly, that there is no evidence or reasoning that would move him.

Trump could be literally ass raping him in front of my eyes and he would say im misunderstanding the situation.

Or maybe i give myself too many sane points.

Any discussion we have immediately descends into a numver of points or connections that strike me as unproveable, mad or just silly.

I cannot and will not ever engage.

The part i object to is not that its not interesting to talk to him.

Its that its no fun. At all. Just stressy and weird.

Its like talking to a jehovahs witness looking 4 a soul. But condescending too, like im kind of a moron.

Its urgent creepy and makes my heart hurt.

Its also often really mean spirited, from my brainwashed liiberal perspective of course.

I almost expect sometomes he might say haha it was just a goof. Only kidding.

That would be annoying, but id appreciate his commitment to the prank.

Or maybe its just to make noise to differentiate ones self, to feel in the know.

I feel that impulse.

[outtamojo]

Fox stooping to photoshop but what else is new

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/fox-news-runs-digitally-altered-images-in-coverage-of-seattles-protests-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone/

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