Right-Wing Media are Destroying Our Country

[outtamojo]

I guess this has become my hobby, sad to say : (

[Coronita]

[quote=outtamojo]I guess this has become my hobby, sad to say : ([/quote]

The answer to life’s problem is always “miata”.

[FlyerInHi]

I agree Flu. No need to fight to alleviate problems of people’s own creation. Even if you do, they don’t appreciate your efforts and feel condescended to anyway. So let them experience what they voted for. If they don’t wake up and educate themselves, oh well… too bad.

While we’re at it, the FCC can undo all internet rules and let the providers squeeze subscribers. Rural dwellers can pay $500 for broadband because it costs so much to run the lines there. Or they can crawl at dial up.

In urban areas where there are economies of scale, what do we care about the podunk?

[zk]

Most of these problems might not be my problems. I am nonetheless concerned for (at least) 3 reasons. Not in any particular order:

1) The people who voted for con man don are credulous and gullible, and they have brought this upon themselves. A lot of them voted for con man don because they’re afraid of the new culture of America, in which they’re no longer the preferred people. Which, in many cases, does make them racists and/or xenophobes. But they are humans nonetheless. They’ve been tricked and duped and lied to and manipulated. The racist ones were probably raised by racist parents. To let them be eaten by the wolves they were tricked into voting for seems like an inferior response to trying to educate them. Both for how their lives would turn out and for how the country would turn out. Yes, I know, they’re tough to educate. They’re stuck in their ways and stuck to their fox propaganda. Sure, it ain’t easy. Good things rarely are.

Now, if it was right-wing media who we were throwing to the wolves, I’d be all for it. I’d yell “fuck them” at the top of my lungs and I’d yell “take that, motherfuckers” at them as they were being eaten. I would raise my arms in triumph as the wolves shit out whatever disgusting brown remnants were left of them. They’re the ones that deserve our contempt and hate. They sold propaganda for money. They are ruining our country.

2) Even if it’s not my problem, it’s this country’s problem. I think this is a great country, and it would be bad for us and bad for the world if we failed as a country.

3) My daughter is 16 years old. God knows how much damage con man don craven congressional republicans could cause if nobody checks his power. I don’t want that kind of future for my daughter.

[Anonymous]

[quote=flu]People voted for this… The WANTED it to happen… And again, not my problem.[/quote]

You’ve just made it so easy to go Godwin on this thread.

[Coronita]

[quote=zk]Most of these problems might not be my problems. I am nonetheless concerned for (at least) 3 reasons. Not in any particular order:

1) The people who voted for con man don are credulous and gullible, and they have brought this upon themselves. A lot of them voted for con man don because they’re afraid of the new culture of America, in which they’re no longer the preferred people. Which, in many cases, does make them racists and/or xenophobes. But they are humans nonetheless. They’ve been tricked and duped and lied to and manipulated. The racist ones were probably raised by racist parents. To let them be eaten by the wolves they were tricked into voting for seems like an inferior response to trying to educate them. Both for how their lives would turn out and for how the country would turn out. Yes, I know, they’re tough to educate. They’re stuck in their ways and stuck to their fox propaganda. Sure, it ain’t easy. Good things rarely are.

Now, if it was right-wing media who we were throwing to the wolves, I’d be all for it. I’d yell “fuck them” at the top of my lungs and I’d yell “take that, motherfuckers” at them as they were being eaten. I would raise my arms in triumph as the wolves shit out whatever disgusting brown remnants were left of them. They’re the ones that deserve our contempt and hate. They sold propaganda for money. They are ruining our country.

2) Even if it’s not my problem, it’s this country’s problem. I think this is a great country, and it would be bad for us and bad for the world if we failed as a country.

3) My daughter is 16 years old. God knows how much damage con man don craven congressional republicans could cause if nobody checks his power. I don’t want that kind of future for my daughter.[/quote]

Nothing to worry about. Our kids are more connected to the rest of the world than we are. I see this nothing more than some old grumpy, pissed off men in NoWhereville, America venting about how the world is changing around them, and they don’t like it. Your kids will be fine as long as you raised them to not fall into the same trap as they did. And if their kids are just as narrow minded and self-limiting, they aren’t going to get very far, and won’t be of significance in the 21st century… Less competition for my kid from them…Someone needs to continue to be at the bottom of the bell curve…

Again, not my problem….

[zk]

[quote=flu]Less competition for my kid from them…Someone needs to continue to be at the bottom of the bell curve…

[/quote]

There’s something I can work with.

[zk]

Hallelujah. Someone who gets it:

“Fox News founder made this the hate-filled, moronic country it is today”

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-roger-ailes-was-one-of-the-worst-americans-ever-w483013

And he did it for money. I’m glad he’s dead.

[flyer]

I’m somewhere in between flu and FIH when it comes to my perspective on the current state of the country. I also think this is a great country and would not want to see it fail.

That said, as flu touched upon, positioning ourselves and our families so we are pretty much “immune” to whatever the future brings seems like a good idea. Even then–there are really no guarantees(except for death and
taxes)–but it’s probably one of the best shots we each have at continuing to live the lives we want to live.

[Coronita]

[quote=zk][quote=flu]Less competition for my kid from them…Someone needs to continue to be at the bottom of the bell curve…

[/quote]

There’s something I can work with.[/quote]

Well seriously, let’s put this in perspective…

Which do you think is better.

Hand out a feel good, sob story to a kid and tell him that it’s not his/her fault that he is failing, that’s is (insert you favorite minority group to blame), and tell him/her that XYZ government official will fix all their problems without lifting a finger.

or…

Telling the kid, hey, the world ain’t fair. What are you going to do, cry about it, and give up? Man/woman up, or go home.

I was pissed off before about this, but as AN pointed out to me, it really doesn’t affect my family or me. Because we’re busy finding ways around everything. Trump, the US, or the US government can’t stop the rest of the world, the rest of the world’s economy and opportunities. If folks in this country want to brainwash their kids into self-limiting their opportunity, well it’s their choice. I feel sorry for their kids, but again… not my problem.

[Coronita]

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[flyer]

Good points, flu. And the whining is not confined to just one group or part of the country. Can’t tell you how many times in the last few years we’ve heard the CA whiners complaining about how they, and/or their kids can’t afford to stay here, can’t find the jobs they want here, can’t afford to buy homes here, etc. It’s probably only going to get worse, but, as you said. . . not my problem.

[zk]

[quote=flu]

I was pissed off before about this, but as AN pointed out to me, it really doesn’t affect my family or me. Because we’re busy finding ways around everything. Trump, the US, or the US government can’t stop the rest of the world, the rest of the world’s economy and opportunities. If folks in this country want to brainwash their kids into self-limiting their opportunity, well it’s their choice. I feel sorry for their kids, but again… not my problem.[/quote]

Typical Asians. Finding a way to make it work regardless of the environment and not letting obstacles stop you.

Obviously that’s great. Are you not concerned that con man don might cause problems that go beyond economic hardship for the people who voted for him?

Fareed Zakaria, who otherwise usually seems pretty reasonable to me, said that trump “became president” when he bombed Syria. That may be the stupidest and most dangerous comment a political pundit has ever made. Here’s a “man” who cares about nothing but his ego, and who controls a massive nuclear arsenal, and you tell him he sucks until he bombs somebody, and then you tell him he’s great. Brilliant.

The bombardment that con man don is receiving right now is clearly bothering him. If the only thing anybody praises him for is bombing other countries…

It seemed for a while like he might consolidate power in the manner of a fascist or an authoritarian. Recently, that has abated as the country’s system of checks and balances seems to be working. If that trend reverses again, it could get ugly.

We’ve already lost credibility around the world.

He’s compromised our intelligence with his bungling.

It’s late and I don’t have the energy to write a complete list. But you get the picture.

I get your point about it not being your problem if it doesn’t affect you (even if I don’t feel that way). My response to that is that there is a significant chance that his ignorance, lying, incompetence, lack of self control, and mental illness could end up causing you very real problems.

[Coronita]

Well, the great thing about this country is that once a president gets elected, he gets only gets about 2 years before he needs to become preoccupied with getting re-elected.

At this point, I think you would probably want things to continue to be a complete disaster so that interesting things happen mid term.

It might be entirely possible you have a bi-partisan initiative to eventually get rid of him if things continue blowing up the way they are.

Meanwhile, all these allegations and distractions are good. It keeps Trump and crew from pushing their agenda…

Meanwhile, grab some popcorn and enjoy the circus.

I wouldn’t worry about the rest of the world and losing credibility. I’m sure most people are pretty convinced it’s just Trump. You judge people by individuals not groups or where they are from. On a personal note (your kids), they will be judged on their achievements, not Trump’s failures and a faction of this country’s retardedness.

So again, not my problem, not your problem either.

When things return back to something more rationale and reasonable in our government in the middle, perhaps we do need to include some of those folks NoWhereVille and do something… Ignoring them won’t make problems go away, they just come back with a different ugly head.

I guess Bush Junior wasn’t as bad in retrospect… At least he has a sense of humor…

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/george-w-bush-photobombs-sports-reporter-at-baseball-game/article/2623464

BTW: Saudi Arabia just bought the largest oil refinery in the US I think.. So much for making america great again… Lol…

Saudi Arabia Now Controls the Largest Oil Refinery in North America

[FlyerInHi]

Flu, I’m all for personally financially insulating ourselves as much a possible.

The irony is that in order to insulate ourselves we have to become more cosmopolitan world citizens, not less, since opportunities are now worldwide. So by dragging down the USA, the deplorables are pushing our most educated citizens further away from them.

In the future, our kids’ opportunities are more likely to be in big metros around the world than in NoWhereville, as you so well put it.

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