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August 4, 2017 at 3:51 PM #807478August 4, 2017 at 3:52 PM #807479
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GuestFlu, what i do I irrelevant.
Is Harvard selecting any student they want any different from you tutoring a student of your own choosing? Should the government be involved in the selection process? If so, why?
Remember, your answer will affect more than Harvard.
August 4, 2017 at 4:00 PM #807480millennial
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Nah, I let my asian wife handle disciplining the kids.
(Did I say that right?) [/quote]
Doesn’t matter. Now that I know you have an Asian wife you can say whatever you want. We call that the Race Card, similar to Street Cred… sort of.
[quote=millennial]The reason I call you out is because of statements like this.
“Like I said. If you really care about the disadvantaged, you would stop talking theory, and start volunteering. But I am guessing like many that talk about affirmative action and the disadvantaged, very few actual bother to lift a finger to do the real things that would make a difference.”
[Lecture omitted for brevity]
[/quote]No that was meant for flu. He wrote that.
[quote=harvey]
So tell us, guardian of cultural sensitivity: Do you know when Americans stopped using the term “oriental” ..)[/quote]Honestly not sure, and really doesn’t matter at this point. It’s a term that many Asian Americans have a problem with and don’t like to be called. I’ve heard oriental refers to things like rugs that originate from the orient. But like I said it’s not the point. It’s disrespectful.
August 4, 2017 at 4:10 PM #807481Participant[quote=harvey
Lighten up kid, and have a laugh:[/quote]
Trust me, I know how to lighten up. Just don’t tolerate when people intentionally say racially ignorant things, unless of course they are Asian. Then they get the race card.
August 4, 2017 at 4:19 PM #807482Anonymous
Guest[quote=millennial]Just don’t tolerate when people intentionally say racially ignorant things, unless of course they are Asian. Then they get the race card.[/quote]
Uh, that doesn’t really make sense. Was that a joke?
The Chappelle show may have been a little before your time, so I’ll give you a pass.
But I’m sure you are constantly writing to record companies, addressing the constant use of the “N” word in song lyrics.
August 4, 2017 at 4:28 PM #807483Participant[quote=harvey]But I’m sure you are constantly writing to record companies, addressing the constant use of the “N” word in song lyrics.[/quote]
Depends. If it’s Garth Brooks I probably wouldn’t be the only one. If it’s Dre he get a pass. Heard he has an unlimited supply of cards.
August 4, 2017 at 4:35 PM #807484Participant[quote=harvey]
The Chappelle show may have been a little before your time, so I’ll give you a pass [/quote]
Damn you watch Dave Chappelle and have an Asian wife? Nice now you can pretty much say any culturally insensitive thing you please.
August 4, 2017 at 4:59 PM #807485
CoronitaParticipant[quote=millennial][quote=flu]The irony. Look in the mirror dude. You are part of the problem.[/quote]
No people like you are the problem. You use rationale like “I help kids at my son’s school” as support to an argument. Give me a break. Finally you agreed that the only reason is for ME, ME, ME. I think that’s where we differ in opinion. This is not a Trump thing, or left or right thing, it’s a selfish thing. Maybe it’s a difference in culture, or the way we were brought up. It’s OK, there are many many more people that feel and act the way you do.[/quote]
Whatever dude. Like I said, enjoy the next 4 years. Congratulations on contributing to it. Things don’t happen out of the blue. And, so long as you guys make your position a zero game for someone that doesn’t fit your protected class, this sort of backlash will continue. Beyond just 4 years.
The problem is people like you polarize the issue completely your way or no way. In your mind and Brian’s mind, if you don’t embrace the all encompassing far left doctrine of everything that comes out of the progressive camp, you must be a a trumptard.
Well guess what? That puts people into choosing between picking the lesser of two evils in their particular situation. You far left progressives are going to cost the election for all the folks in the middle, because you ignore all the people that would be willing to compromise, because for you..it’s all or nothing. You don’t think it’s a big deal because you don’t mind others getting screwed over as long as it doesn’t affect you. Fairness? Who needs that!
And conveniently absent. Brian after turning yet another thread into a progressive very everyone else slapfest.
All talk, no action. And if math and science and education is so easy as you state, clearly there’s no need for affirmative action make up for the differences. Maybe just maybe there aren’t people as smart and capable as you that think everything is so easy.
BtW. Affirmative action is illegal in CA. As it should be. Imagine that the most liberal state, and it’s illegal.
But I have to admit, running into people like you talk about affirmative action does make me slightly less tolerant each time. Which is why up until recently I tried to ignore this thread. Again, and you are surprised middle America chose Trump?
August 4, 2017 at 5:03 PM #807486GuestFlu, i said good for you that Jeff Seasions is doing what you want. I don’t think that his motivations are same as yours, but I guess the ends justify the means.
I just ask for some intellectual honesty. Why should the government get involved in the policies of a Harvard, a private organization?
August 4, 2017 at 5:12 PM #807487CoronitaParticipantWhatever. If you progressives want to (incorrectly) label me as being narrow minded or whatever simply because I am against institutional discrimination (affirmative action), so be it. I guess given that we have the biggest bigot in office, I can’t be worse than our presidential role model for the next 4 years. Maybe even 8, if you progressives keep it up… Then everyone loses!!!! Yee haw!!!!!
August 4, 2017 at 5:21 PM #807488GuestFlu, prop 209, the california ban on affirmation action does not affect Stanford. It has the same history as prop 187 during the Pete Wilson era, basically a deplorable racist, anti-immigrant time in California. Maybe you don’t care about context as long as you get what you want.
Now, tell me again why the Federal government should get in the business of running private universities? I may well agree with you.
August 4, 2017 at 5:32 PM #807489Guest[quote=millennial][quote=harvey]
The Chappelle show may have been a little before your time, so I’ll give you a pass [/quote]
Damn you watch Dave Chappelle and have an Asian wife? Nice now you can pretty much say any culturally insensitive thing you please.[/quote]
Hey, I like to laugh and I think now you are trying to be funny here, but maybe we just aren’t connecting.
But it seems you aren’t entirely joking.
Do you actually believe that there are different standards for ignorant speech based on the race of the speaker?
August 4, 2017 at 5:35 PM #807490Participant[quote=flu]Whatever. If you progressives want to (incorrectly) label me as being narrow minded or whatever simply because I am against institutional discrimination (affirmative action), so be it. I guess given that we have the biggest bigot in office, I can’t be worse than our presidential role model for the next 4 years. Maybe even 8, if you progressives keep it up… Then everyone loses!!!! Yee haw!!!!![/quote]
Dude now who’s calling me overly sensitive. I totally agree with the removal of affirmative action. Affirmative action was created a while ago because the student body of public universities did not represent the makeup of the people that funded them, or the people they were supposed to serve (surrounding areas were composed primarily of a discriminated class). They created affirmative action (which I believe was necessary) to help those that were underprivileged. Obviously this no longer holds true and that is why it is not needed. This being said, all I’m saying is that admittance to top highly selective schools should continue to look at things outside of just test scores, which should also take into account an applicants socioeconomic well-being. Public universities, unlike private universities need to continue to serve a function that is beneficial to the public.
Although the definition of this may not be agreeable to both you, your son, and his friends; or for Trump; or for the richest who are much more able to control this. Personally I feel that the nation as a whole would be much better if people from all socioeconomic classes, and all backgrounds are represented in power. In order for this to happen, we need to make sure that public universities continue to serve this purpose.
August 4, 2017 at 5:42 PM #807492Participant[quote=harvey]
Damn you watch Dave Chappelle and have an Asian wife? Nice now you can pretty much say any culturally insensitive thing you please.[/quote]
Hey, I like to laugh and I think now you are trying to be funny here, but maybe we just aren’t connecting.
But it seems you aren’t entirely joking.
Do you actually believe that there are different standards for ignorant speech based on the race of the speaker?[/quote]
Of course I do. That’s part of the Asian-American experience. Do you know why Dave Chapelle stopped his show after getting a lucrative contract with Comedy Central? It’s cause he noticed that one time a white guy laughed a little too hard at his jokes. Communication is derived from context, intent and speaker. For instance, would it be different if your boss called you a dumb ass instead? Of course it would! You need to understand that for all intents and purposes historically minorities do not hold power in this country; whites do. From this perspective if another one of your coworkers calls you a dumb ass while drinking a few beers, it comes off a lot differently.
August 4, 2017 at 5:43 PM #807493Participant[quote=harvey]
Damn you watch Dave Chappelle and have an Asian wife? Nice now you can pretty much say any culturally insensitive thing you please.[/quote]
Hey, I like to laugh and I think now you are trying to be funny here, but maybe we just aren’t connecting.
But it seems you aren’t entirely joking.
Do you actually believe that there are different standards for ignorant speech based on the race of the speaker?[/quote]
Of course I do. That’s part of the Asian-American experience. Do you know why Dave Chapelle stopped his show after getting a lucrative contract with Comedy Central? It’s cause he noticed that one time a white guy laughed a little too hard at his jokes. Communication is derived from context, intent and speaker. For instance, would it be different if your boss called you a dumb ass instead? Of course it would! You need to understand that for all intents and purposes historically minorities do not hold power in this country; whites do. From this perspective if another one of your coworkers calls you a dumb ass while drinking a few beers, it comes off a lot differently.
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