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September 22, 2009 at 2:55 PM #461015September 22, 2009 at 3:10 PM #460219
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantVeritas: “Work Makes (Creates) Freedom”. You might want to tell the dear readers where that little bon mot came from.
Sobmaz: As to your comment about those courageous Democrats: Puh-leeze. What utter, unadulterated crap. The Democrats have been in there, right alongside their Republican pals, gleefully trashing our civil liberties.
Look up FISA. Look up rendition. Look up NSA’s Carnivore and Echelon programs. More importantly, look up who started them. How many Dems voted for Patriot Act? Better yet, how many voted for Patriot Act II?
Give me a break with this propagandistic nonsense. The Dems are complicit, as are the Republicans. If you fall for that party line crap, you’re as ignorant as those people that believe we’re involved in anything other than an increasingly brutal war for resources and will do anything to keep the party going.
September 22, 2009 at 3:10 PM #460411ParticipantVeritas: “Work Makes (Creates) Freedom”. You might want to tell the dear readers where that little bon mot came from.
Sobmaz: As to your comment about those courageous Democrats: Puh-leeze. What utter, unadulterated crap. The Democrats have been in there, right alongside their Republican pals, gleefully trashing our civil liberties.
Look up FISA. Look up rendition. Look up NSA’s Carnivore and Echelon programs. More importantly, look up who started them. How many Dems voted for Patriot Act? Better yet, how many voted for Patriot Act II?
Give me a break with this propagandistic nonsense. The Dems are complicit, as are the Republicans. If you fall for that party line crap, you’re as ignorant as those people that believe we’re involved in anything other than an increasingly brutal war for resources and will do anything to keep the party going.
September 22, 2009 at 3:10 PM #460751ParticipantVeritas: “Work Makes (Creates) Freedom”. You might want to tell the dear readers where that little bon mot came from.
Sobmaz: As to your comment about those courageous Democrats: Puh-leeze. What utter, unadulterated crap. The Democrats have been in there, right alongside their Republican pals, gleefully trashing our civil liberties.
Look up FISA. Look up rendition. Look up NSA’s Carnivore and Echelon programs. More importantly, look up who started them. How many Dems voted for Patriot Act? Better yet, how many voted for Patriot Act II?
Give me a break with this propagandistic nonsense. The Dems are complicit, as are the Republicans. If you fall for that party line crap, you’re as ignorant as those people that believe we’re involved in anything other than an increasingly brutal war for resources and will do anything to keep the party going.
September 22, 2009 at 3:10 PM #460823ParticipantVeritas: “Work Makes (Creates) Freedom”. You might want to tell the dear readers where that little bon mot came from.
Sobmaz: As to your comment about those courageous Democrats: Puh-leeze. What utter, unadulterated crap. The Democrats have been in there, right alongside their Republican pals, gleefully trashing our civil liberties.
Look up FISA. Look up rendition. Look up NSA’s Carnivore and Echelon programs. More importantly, look up who started them. How many Dems voted for Patriot Act? Better yet, how many voted for Patriot Act II?
Give me a break with this propagandistic nonsense. The Dems are complicit, as are the Republicans. If you fall for that party line crap, you’re as ignorant as those people that believe we’re involved in anything other than an increasingly brutal war for resources and will do anything to keep the party going.
September 22, 2009 at 3:10 PM #461025ParticipantVeritas: “Work Makes (Creates) Freedom”. You might want to tell the dear readers where that little bon mot came from.
Sobmaz: As to your comment about those courageous Democrats: Puh-leeze. What utter, unadulterated crap. The Democrats have been in there, right alongside their Republican pals, gleefully trashing our civil liberties.
Look up FISA. Look up rendition. Look up NSA’s Carnivore and Echelon programs. More importantly, look up who started them. How many Dems voted for Patriot Act? Better yet, how many voted for Patriot Act II?
Give me a break with this propagandistic nonsense. The Dems are complicit, as are the Republicans. If you fall for that party line crap, you’re as ignorant as those people that believe we’re involved in anything other than an increasingly brutal war for resources and will do anything to keep the party going.
September 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM #4602484plexowner
Participant“an increasingly brutal war for resources”
I believe it is necessary to have a big picture view of the world and what is going on in it
this ‘war for resources’ is part of that big picture IMO
while the US has been wasting their resources in pointless wars, China has been going around the world buying up the resources they will need in the future
Australia, Canada, Africa – China has secured streams of resources from these countries and more while the US has piddled their resources in the desert (and continues to do so)
China plans for the next 100 years while the US plans for the next quarter and the next election …
September 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM #460440Participant“an increasingly brutal war for resources”
I believe it is necessary to have a big picture view of the world and what is going on in it
this ‘war for resources’ is part of that big picture IMO
while the US has been wasting their resources in pointless wars, China has been going around the world buying up the resources they will need in the future
Australia, Canada, Africa – China has secured streams of resources from these countries and more while the US has piddled their resources in the desert (and continues to do so)
China plans for the next 100 years while the US plans for the next quarter and the next election …
September 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM #460780Participant“an increasingly brutal war for resources”
I believe it is necessary to have a big picture view of the world and what is going on in it
this ‘war for resources’ is part of that big picture IMO
while the US has been wasting their resources in pointless wars, China has been going around the world buying up the resources they will need in the future
Australia, Canada, Africa – China has secured streams of resources from these countries and more while the US has piddled their resources in the desert (and continues to do so)
China plans for the next 100 years while the US plans for the next quarter and the next election …
September 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM #460853Participant“an increasingly brutal war for resources”
I believe it is necessary to have a big picture view of the world and what is going on in it
this ‘war for resources’ is part of that big picture IMO
while the US has been wasting their resources in pointless wars, China has been going around the world buying up the resources they will need in the future
Australia, Canada, Africa – China has secured streams of resources from these countries and more while the US has piddled their resources in the desert (and continues to do so)
China plans for the next 100 years while the US plans for the next quarter and the next election …
September 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM #461055Participant“an increasingly brutal war for resources”
I believe it is necessary to have a big picture view of the world and what is going on in it
this ‘war for resources’ is part of that big picture IMO
while the US has been wasting their resources in pointless wars, China has been going around the world buying up the resources they will need in the future
Australia, Canada, Africa – China has secured streams of resources from these countries and more while the US has piddled their resources in the desert (and continues to do so)
China plans for the next 100 years while the US plans for the next quarter and the next election …
September 22, 2009 at 4:02 PM #460253CricketOnTheHearth
ParticipantChina’s giving it the ol’ college try, but the bloom may be already coming off the rose in a few of these places. I recently read an article about grumbling in some 3rd world country (I forget which, in Africa, I think) because the Chinese were bringing in their own Chinese workers to do the work instead of hiring local.
America made the big play for the big oil resources in the Gulf area, while China nibbles around the edges for the oil in Sudan, etc. No argument that the US has funbled the Gulf play. I predict the “Great Game” will eventually turn to China attempting to get a foothold in the Gulf region; perhaps cozying up to Iran. Neither Russia nor the US would like that… much ugliness ensues.
The fact that our economies are so webbed together makes it tougher. You can’t just haul off and blast your rival any more, you wind up cratering your own economy if you do.
September 22, 2009 at 4:02 PM #460445ParticipantChina’s giving it the ol’ college try, but the bloom may be already coming off the rose in a few of these places. I recently read an article about grumbling in some 3rd world country (I forget which, in Africa, I think) because the Chinese were bringing in their own Chinese workers to do the work instead of hiring local.
America made the big play for the big oil resources in the Gulf area, while China nibbles around the edges for the oil in Sudan, etc. No argument that the US has funbled the Gulf play. I predict the “Great Game” will eventually turn to China attempting to get a foothold in the Gulf region; perhaps cozying up to Iran. Neither Russia nor the US would like that… much ugliness ensues.
The fact that our economies are so webbed together makes it tougher. You can’t just haul off and blast your rival any more, you wind up cratering your own economy if you do.
September 22, 2009 at 4:02 PM #460785ParticipantChina’s giving it the ol’ college try, but the bloom may be already coming off the rose in a few of these places. I recently read an article about grumbling in some 3rd world country (I forget which, in Africa, I think) because the Chinese were bringing in their own Chinese workers to do the work instead of hiring local.
America made the big play for the big oil resources in the Gulf area, while China nibbles around the edges for the oil in Sudan, etc. No argument that the US has funbled the Gulf play. I predict the “Great Game” will eventually turn to China attempting to get a foothold in the Gulf region; perhaps cozying up to Iran. Neither Russia nor the US would like that… much ugliness ensues.
The fact that our economies are so webbed together makes it tougher. You can’t just haul off and blast your rival any more, you wind up cratering your own economy if you do.
September 22, 2009 at 4:02 PM #460858ParticipantChina’s giving it the ol’ college try, but the bloom may be already coming off the rose in a few of these places. I recently read an article about grumbling in some 3rd world country (I forget which, in Africa, I think) because the Chinese were bringing in their own Chinese workers to do the work instead of hiring local.
America made the big play for the big oil resources in the Gulf area, while China nibbles around the edges for the oil in Sudan, etc. No argument that the US has funbled the Gulf play. I predict the “Great Game” will eventually turn to China attempting to get a foothold in the Gulf region; perhaps cozying up to Iran. Neither Russia nor the US would like that… much ugliness ensues.
The fact that our economies are so webbed together makes it tougher. You can’t just haul off and blast your rival any more, you wind up cratering your own economy if you do.
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