Quite the little country we’re becoming.

[curiousmind]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=curiousmind]Allan, when’s the Fallbrook meetup?[/quote]

Friday night at the Red Eye Saloon on Main Street. I’ll be the one with the red carnation in my lapel, sitting next to the John Birch Society poster.[/quote]

I guess you got the invite to my wedding..

[no_such_reality]

[quote]The Los Angeles Fire Department has failed to properly investigate misconduct allegations against the fire chief, top union officials and members of an elite unit that delves into charges involving rank-and-file firefighters, according to an audit presented to the city Fire Commission Tuesday.

The report by the agency’s top watchdog concluded that the process of probing such sensitive cases is underfunded, poorly run and plagued by sloppy record keeping and incomplete fieldwork. The department has ignored complaints and routinely allowed cases to drag on until after the statute of limitations to impose discipline has expired, the report found.[/quote]

Shocking I know. LAFD Audit criticizes investigations of top officials.

[no_such_reality]

Coming closer to San Diego, apparently last night, a guy died during his arrest after being tazered and bitten by the police dog. Man dies during Fallbrook arrest

Probably find meth and heart disease…

And for your school deals. Boy, I spent a lot of money on those people

[no_such_reality]

Government is tracking ALL US phone calls

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=no_such_reality] Government is tracking ALL US phone calls[/quote]

NSR: Good stuff, huh? I’m sure you’ve also seen the news on the PRISM program as well. A government spying program actively aided and abetted by our good buddies at Microsoft, Google, Facebook, etc. I’ve been searching my privacy settings for the “Keep the US Government the Fuck Outta my Computer” option, but no luck.

Check out the NSA’s ThinThread program and how they used the entire population of New Zealand as guinea pigs.

But, yeah, we should definitely surrender our guns. Cuz, you know, we can totally trust the gubment. For reals.

[CA renter]

One must wonder how “terrorism” can be defined and re-defined, too.

Surely, this is all “for our own good,” right?

[no_such_reality]

Al that’s because of the patriot act. If you talk about the stuff you’re being ask to do by the government, you’re labeled a terrorist…

[FlyerInHi]

Question is how would you feel if there’s a terrorist attack?

If someone dials up or otherwise communicates with a terror cell should they not be apprehended or killed off by drones? Should someone who’s accumulating guns and ammo be on a watch list? Should we not arrest him before he goes on a shooting rampage?

I’m just asking some rhetorical questions here… It all started with us, the American people, when we gave unprecedented power to a trigger happy president to go to war against Iraq, a country that didn’t do anything to us. We cheered it all on as shock and awe went on, as the Romans cheered when gladiators battled for their entertainment.

Do we have the courage to dismantle the national security state? Unlike dumbrenter, I don’t feel positive about getting our privacy back. We just have to learn to live with being watched all the time. It will change how we behave and our culture will take a new direction.

Technology is the great enabler. People put their babysitters and kids under surveillance. Do you review your teenager or your spouse’s cell phone bill? If you do, don’t expect any less of the government.

[flu]

Introducing Verizon’s new $50/month “Friends, Family, and Government” sharing plan… including unlimited voice and data backup…..

Verizon…”Can you hear me now?”….Why, yes, apparently loud and clear…..

[FlyerInHi]

That was funny, haha

Data mining is very interesting. Nobody is being listened to. Humans are not doing the snooping. Computers are used to identify suspicious traffic patterns. This is a great area for quants to apply their skills.

I don’t think the disclosure of the secret programs will affect anti terrorist programs, but it will affect our moral standing in the world.

I’m sure that countries such as China are using similar technology to identify possible unrest. Unusual texting activity could mean that something is up.

[CA renter]

I think too many people believe that the government is capable of protecting them from everything. They can’t, and they won’t. Additionally, if one looks at history, most mass killings (talking about thousands+++ killed) were done by government/people in power, or in response to a dictatorial/oppressive government.

So, should we trust a government that has proved willing to secretly spy on us (and the phone call scandal is just the tip of the iceberg) and possibly arrest/kill us if they don’t like what they see (without a trial, I might add)? I think citizens need to demand a more accountable and more transparent government; one where EVERYTHING is made public sooner, rather than later, and where U.S. citizens are freely granted the right to monitor and correct any abuses of power (that includes the right to bear arms, including “assault weapons” that can be used to curb an overzealous, power-hungry government).

[FlyerInHi]

Car, if I understand you well, you’re saying that citizens need guns and assault weapons because there comes a time when citizens need to kill the agents of the government.

That’s a very subjective call depending on who you are.

[CA renter]

Citizens need the means to protect themselves against oppressive regimes. History shows us, over and over again, that too much power at the top can easily corrupt a government and/or those who control it. However you want to interpret that is up to you.

[dumbrenter]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Car, if I understand you well, you’re saying that citizens need guns and assault weapons because there comes a time when citizens need to kill the agents of the government.

That’s a very subjective call depending on who you are.[/quote]

I think you just summarized the 2nd amendment.

[dumbrenter]

[quote=CA renter] However you want to interpret that is up to you.[/quote]

Or the agent reading this thread.

I think all those quants who lost jobs after their math brought about the housing bubble & bust are now gainfully employed….doing analytics on your phone calls/ texts. So sleep well my friends, these quants are protecting you from the bad guys, just like they helped out with the housing.

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