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May 16, 2013 at 7:06 AM #762065May 16, 2013 at 11:14 AM #762072
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Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=paramount]It’s being reported that a video was deleted.
No problem, the public employee union thugs loves to protect criminals.[/quote]
Paramount: In this case, I don’t know. If it’s technically feasible to prove the deletion, the Sheriff’s Office is screwed. That is obstruction of justice and intentional destruction of evidence. Kinda hard to explain that behavior away.
This will be interesting to watch, as it unfolds.[/quote]
Simple, the new narrative becomes, it must have inadvertently been deleted and the officers never new it even existed….and look, it doesn’t prove anything anyway.
May 16, 2013 at 11:26 AM #762073Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Blogstar][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=paramount]It’s being reported that a video was deleted.
No problem, the public employee union thugs loves to protect criminals.[/quote]
Paramount: In this case, I don’t know. If it’s technically feasible to prove the deletion, the Sheriff’s Office is screwed. That is obstruction of justice and intentional destruction of evidence. Kinda hard to explain that behavior away.
This will be interesting to watch, as it unfolds.[/quote]
Simple, the new narrative becomes, it must have inadvertently been deleted and the officers never new it even existed….and look, it doesn’t prove anything anyway.[/quote]
Rus: Stupid, newfangled iPhones.
Look, a squirrel!
May 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM #762074Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Blogstar][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=paramount]It’s being reported that a video was deleted.
No problem, the public employee union thugs loves to protect criminals.[/quote]
Paramount: In this case, I don’t know. If it’s technically feasible to prove the deletion, the Sheriff’s Office is screwed. That is obstruction of justice and intentional destruction of evidence. Kinda hard to explain that behavior away.
This will be interesting to watch, as it unfolds.[/quote]
Simple, the new narrative becomes, it must have inadvertently been deleted and the officers never new it even existed….and look, it doesn’t prove anything anyway.[/quote]
Rus: Stupid, newfangled iPhones.
Look, a squirrel![/quote]
There was NO squirrel !
May 16, 2013 at 1:15 PM #762079Participant[quote=Blogstar][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Blogstar][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=paramount]It’s being reported that a video was deleted.
No problem, the public employee union thugs loves to protect criminals.[/quote]
Paramount: In this case, I don’t know. If it’s technically feasible to prove the deletion, the Sheriff’s Office is screwed. That is obstruction of justice and intentional destruction of evidence. Kinda hard to explain that behavior away.
This will be interesting to watch, as it unfolds.[/quote]
Simple, the new narrative becomes, it must have inadvertently been deleted and the officers never new it even existed….and look, it doesn’t prove anything anyway.[/quote]
Rus: Stupid, newfangled iPhones.
Look, a squirrel![/quote]
There was NO squirrel ![/quote]
I have the unredacted email chain proving the squirrel existed!
May 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM #762104no_such_reality
ParticipantMay 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM #762125dumbrenter
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]WOW, it looks like we have overarching gubment at all levels and/or who have the (dangerous) “power of subpoena” without any arrests already made.
Just, wow.
Now I know why I don’t use the Chrome browser, don’t engage in social networking, opted out of all e-mail lists, set my browsers and shopping lists to “private,” heavily control online “cookies,” opted out of junk snail mail, keep my nos updated on the “Do Not Call” registry and have always had an unlisted phone number.
What happened? Did Fourth Amendment rights fly out the window?
I don’t have any Big Brothers, don’t need any and don’t want any … for good reason.[/quote]
You are doing all the right things but to be very safe from the evil brother, you have to go one step further. If you do not use the internet, there is no way they can track you. no way at all. Then go further and do not use USPS or make telephone calls.
But seriously, the ultimate evil one is ‘you’. You expect to use the google services for free, you want to go shop to get lower prices in exchange for your shopping information and then turn around to complain about it.
How do you think these services come for free? And why don’t you want to pay for it?May 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM #762149FlyerInHi
GuestWell said dumbrenter.
I think that as a society we have more transparency today than in the days of J Edgar Hoover who kept dossiers on everyone, and when routine civil rights violations were the norm. Back then local county sheriffs were lord of their fiefs and could jail anyone they wanted. Back then fixing tickets and criminal prosecutions were routine.
Sure, if you give the president news laws such as the Patriot Acts, he will use them. Laws that enhance executive powers become institutionalized into the office.
May 21, 2013 at 1:59 PM #762150Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Well said dumbrenter.
I think that as a society we have more transparency today than in the days of J Edgar Hoover who kept dossiers on everyone, and when routine civil rights violations were the norm. Back then local county sheriffs were lord of their fiefs and could jail anyone they wanted. Back then fixing tickets and criminal prosecutions were routine.
Sure, if you give the president news laws such as the Patriot Acts, he will use them. Laws that enhance executive powers become institutionalized into the office.[/quote]
FIH: Your first paragraph and your second paragraph contradict each other.
As to the substance of what you appear to be saying, we absolutely do not have more transparency, especially when it comes to the actions of government. We are traveling down a very dangerous path, more so if you’re deemed an “enemy”.
One should never confuse information with knowledge.
May 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM #762151GuestAllan, I agree that there is contradiction.
The public today is more sensitive to overreach. Today, there is certainly moe dissemination of information which in the past were kept secret.
But the executive has more power thanks to new laws that made for a more powerful executive.
And yes, we are traveling down a dangerous path especially when it comes to digital information and surveillance, especially with the ease by which is can be performed. The technology is improving everyday. I’m especially concerned with how digital info can follow people for the rest of their lives, possibly spanning parents to children to grandchildren.
The treat doesnt just come from government surveillance but from private databases.
Today a police officer cannot fix a ticket as easily as before because of the digital data trail. But government can easily access the phone company’s database to review your movements.
May 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM #762154Participant“Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner, who leads the exempt organizations division under scrutiny for targeting conservative groups that applied for tax-exempt status, is refusing to testify before Congress, the Los Angeles Times reports.
Lerner was supposed to appear before the House Oversight Committee Wednesday.
The Times reports that Lerner’s attorney, William W. Taylor III, sent a letter to the committee chairman saying she would plead the Fifth:”
May 21, 2013 at 5:50 PM #762155ParticipantFIH: You also have companies like Google willingly handing private information over to the government with nary a complaint.
Taken as a whole, we’re seeing an imperial presidency, combined with a National Security State and aided and abetted by a compliant and docile media.
Some, including formerly active Obama sycophants, are starting to wake up to the larger/wider ramifications.
When Ron Fournier at National Journal flips sides, you know something’s up.
May 22, 2013 at 11:01 AM #762159SD Realtor
Participant“It’s good to be king”
May 22, 2013 at 11:47 AM #762161Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]FIH: You also have companies like Google willingly handing private information over to the government with nary a complaint.
Taken as a whole, we’re seeing an imperial presidency, combined with a National Security State and aided and abetted by a compliant and docile media.
Some, including formerly active Obama sycophants, are starting to wake up to the larger/wider ramifications.
When Ron Fournier at National Journal flips sides, you know something’s up.[/quote]
It is technology that enables the googles and imperial presidencies to do what they want to do. It would not have been possible even as recent as 8 years ago.
At the same time, it is the same technology that folks concerned about their privacy can exploit to protect their privacy.The State has a tendency to grab more power as techniques to grab more power is made available. On the balance side, a well educated and aware populace can provide a counterweight using the same techniques to assert their rights. It is just that the well-aware populace that is willing to assert their rights is fast becoming a small minority in this one man one vote system where emotions, looks and stupid shit like israel, abortion, gays etc. rule, while bit by bit the rights of life and property are being taken away.
I believe it is just temporary and the balance will eventually be restored. My optimism is based on the inventive capacity of the people who will find any means to communicate in private, and to secure their life & property.
May 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM #762163ParticipantDumbrenter: Wow. Great post and you nailed it. It’s also cool that you can maintain your optimism, and that’s not said sarcastically. In a conversation with an Army buddy, he said it’s the first time in his life that he’s actually worried about the potential future of the US.
I’ll admit that the last 10+ years have been rough, especially when one considers how much our essential rights and liberties have eroded.
And, no, I don’t blame Obama. He’s a symptom of the overall disease. As Lord Acton put it, “Power corrupts; absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely.”
I do hope your optimism is well founded and that we find our way back. It appears finally the press has awakened and is beginning to do their job. What did Brandeis say about sunlight being the best disinfectant?
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