plunging birthrate

[bearishgurl]

[quote=UCGal][quote=barnaby33]I’d be curious to know why woemen chose to have x or y kids?
Josh[/quote]

Taking a stab at this. One woman’s thinking…

We chose to have 2. In part because we prefered our kids have the experience of having to compromise with siblings… not being the sole focus of our attention, etc. My husband is from a large Italian family – one of six. I was from a typical WASP family – one of 3.

We might have gone for #3 to get the elusive “girl baby”… but I was too damn old for that. 2 was the max.

Hubster did not have kids (nor was married) – and is 10 years older than me. And I am/was old. I was 39 when I had my oldest, 41 for my younger son. We didn’t meet till I was 37… and that courtship, marriage, getting knocked up thing took a year. LOL.

I know I had set my limit at 2. period. But my husband almost convinced me to go for #3… I pointed out that boys run in his family (he has 4 brothers). So… no dice.[/quote]

So UCGal, you’re saying here that ten years ago, your now husband was 50+?, had no children and had just married (or was engaged) to you?

I take it he isn’t from SD but this doesn’t matter. This just fuels my hypothesis that there are MANY 50+ men out there who are seeking to find a spouse ASAP and begin an “immediate” family!

Pls correct me if I missed something… ;=]

[briansd1]

My older brother and his wife had a daughter at 43. She said that it was an “accident” but I highly doubt that. I know that’s she’s been yearning to have kids for years.

My younger bro, had two kids when he was about 29, and wife was about 22. She was thinking that the kids would keep her husband forever, but that didn’t work.

A friend and his wife had twins at about 47. I think that they had fertility treatment.

[quote=AN]
Reproduction is hard wired in to your mind as an animal. If it’s not, then your species would be extinct. Animals do not have society pressure, yet they have much more offsprings than humans do.[/quote]

I believe that animals are hardwired to have sex. The babies popping out are a result of sex. It’s nature’s way of working. But I just don’t believe that animals plan to have offsprings.

Humans have consciousness, so we can plan to do whatever we want. We don’t need to go with the flow.

[briansd1]

My older brother and his wife had a daughter at 43. She said that it was an “accident” but I highly doubt that. I know that’s she’s been yearning to have kids for years.

My younger bro, had two kids when he was about 29, and wife was about 22. She was thinking that the kids would keep her husband forever, but that didn’t work.

A friend and his wife had twins at about 47. I think that they had fertility treatment.

[quote=AN]
Reproduction is hard wired in to your mind as an animal. If it’s not, then your species would be extinct. Animals do not have society pressure, yet they have much more offsprings than humans do.[/quote]

I believe that animals are hardwired to have sex. The babies popping out are a result of sex. It’s nature’s way of working. But I just don’t believe that animals plan to have offsprings.

Humans have consciousness, so we can plan to do whatever we want. We don’t need to go with the flow.

[briansd1]

My older brother and his wife had a daughter at 43. She said that it was an “accident” but I highly doubt that. I know that’s she’s been yearning to have kids for years.

My younger bro, had two kids when he was about 29, and wife was about 22. She was thinking that the kids would keep her husband forever, but that didn’t work.

A friend and his wife had twins at about 47. I think that they had fertility treatment.

[quote=AN]
Reproduction is hard wired in to your mind as an animal. If it’s not, then your species would be extinct. Animals do not have society pressure, yet they have much more offsprings than humans do.[/quote]

I believe that animals are hardwired to have sex. The babies popping out are a result of sex. It’s nature’s way of working. But I just don’t believe that animals plan to have offsprings.

Humans have consciousness, so we can plan to do whatever we want. We don’t need to go with the flow.

[briansd1]

My older brother and his wife had a daughter at 43. She said that it was an “accident” but I highly doubt that. I know that’s she’s been yearning to have kids for years.

My younger bro, had two kids when he was about 29, and wife was about 22. She was thinking that the kids would keep her husband forever, but that didn’t work.

A friend and his wife had twins at about 47. I think that they had fertility treatment.

[quote=AN]
Reproduction is hard wired in to your mind as an animal. If it’s not, then your species would be extinct. Animals do not have society pressure, yet they have much more offsprings than humans do.[/quote]

I believe that animals are hardwired to have sex. The babies popping out are a result of sex. It’s nature’s way of working. But I just don’t believe that animals plan to have offsprings.

Humans have consciousness, so we can plan to do whatever we want. We don’t need to go with the flow.

[briansd1]

My older brother and his wife had a daughter at 43. She said that it was an “accident” but I highly doubt that. I know that’s she’s been yearning to have kids for years.

My younger bro, had two kids when he was about 29, and wife was about 22. She was thinking that the kids would keep her husband forever, but that didn’t work.

A friend and his wife had twins at about 47. I think that they had fertility treatment.

[quote=AN]
Reproduction is hard wired in to your mind as an animal. If it’s not, then your species would be extinct. Animals do not have society pressure, yet they have much more offsprings than humans do.[/quote]

I believe that animals are hardwired to have sex. The babies popping out are a result of sex. It’s nature’s way of working. But I just don’t believe that animals plan to have offsprings.

Humans have consciousness, so we can plan to do whatever we want. We don’t need to go with the flow.

[njtosd]

[quote=briansd1]

People believe that having kids makes them happy.

It’s just the way it’s done and the example set by society. So people do it to conform.

[/quote]

Not to sound sappy, but having kids (3) did make me happy. It makes me happy every day just to see them running around happy and healthy and funny and cute. Which is not to say that sometimes I don’t flip out over how messy and self centered they can be. My husband makes me happy, too. Which also sounds sappy, but it’s true.

We had kids when we were in our late 30s, prior to which I had had a pretty stressful career in a very male dominated field, so I don’t really feel like I’m much of a conformist. In fact, most of my same-age friends had kids long before I did or not at all. So – some people have kids because they really want them, and they marry people because they really love them. I think there are a lot of those people, but for whatever reason they don’t get much press.

[njtosd]

[quote=briansd1]

People believe that having kids makes them happy.

It’s just the way it’s done and the example set by society. So people do it to conform.

[/quote]

Not to sound sappy, but having kids (3) did make me happy. It makes me happy every day just to see them running around happy and healthy and funny and cute. Which is not to say that sometimes I don’t flip out over how messy and self centered they can be. My husband makes me happy, too. Which also sounds sappy, but it’s true.

We had kids when we were in our late 30s, prior to which I had had a pretty stressful career in a very male dominated field, so I don’t really feel like I’m much of a conformist. In fact, most of my same-age friends had kids long before I did or not at all. So – some people have kids because they really want them, and they marry people because they really love them. I think there are a lot of those people, but for whatever reason they don’t get much press.

[njtosd]

[quote=briansd1]

People believe that having kids makes them happy.

It’s just the way it’s done and the example set by society. So people do it to conform.

[/quote]

Not to sound sappy, but having kids (3) did make me happy. It makes me happy every day just to see them running around happy and healthy and funny and cute. Which is not to say that sometimes I don’t flip out over how messy and self centered they can be. My husband makes me happy, too. Which also sounds sappy, but it’s true.

We had kids when we were in our late 30s, prior to which I had had a pretty stressful career in a very male dominated field, so I don’t really feel like I’m much of a conformist. In fact, most of my same-age friends had kids long before I did or not at all. So – some people have kids because they really want them, and they marry people because they really love them. I think there are a lot of those people, but for whatever reason they don’t get much press.

[njtosd]

[quote=briansd1]

People believe that having kids makes them happy.

It’s just the way it’s done and the example set by society. So people do it to conform.

[/quote]

Not to sound sappy, but having kids (3) did make me happy. It makes me happy every day just to see them running around happy and healthy and funny and cute. Which is not to say that sometimes I don’t flip out over how messy and self centered they can be. My husband makes me happy, too. Which also sounds sappy, but it’s true.

We had kids when we were in our late 30s, prior to which I had had a pretty stressful career in a very male dominated field, so I don’t really feel like I’m much of a conformist. In fact, most of my same-age friends had kids long before I did or not at all. So – some people have kids because they really want them, and they marry people because they really love them. I think there are a lot of those people, but for whatever reason they don’t get much press.

[njtosd]

[quote=briansd1]

People believe that having kids makes them happy.

It’s just the way it’s done and the example set by society. So people do it to conform.

[/quote]

Not to sound sappy, but having kids (3) did make me happy. It makes me happy every day just to see them running around happy and healthy and funny and cute. Which is not to say that sometimes I don’t flip out over how messy and self centered they can be. My husband makes me happy, too. Which also sounds sappy, but it’s true.

We had kids when we were in our late 30s, prior to which I had had a pretty stressful career in a very male dominated field, so I don’t really feel like I’m much of a conformist. In fact, most of my same-age friends had kids long before I did or not at all. So – some people have kids because they really want them, and they marry people because they really love them. I think there are a lot of those people, but for whatever reason they don’t get much press.

[patb]

[quote=UCGal]

I’m active on a “mom’s message board”… It’s about 70 women who all have kids born the same month/year… from 4 different countries.

On that board the number of families with 4 or more kids is greater than the number of families with just 1 child. So… based on this VERY limited data source (so really useless….[/quote]

selection bias.

It’s a group of women who want to be moms and want to have kids and
want to hang out with other moms.

The census numbers are very straightforward.

How about the tons of women who just aren’t marrying
or the ones not having kids.

[patb]

[quote=UCGal]

I’m active on a “mom’s message board”… It’s about 70 women who all have kids born the same month/year… from 4 different countries.

On that board the number of families with 4 or more kids is greater than the number of families with just 1 child. So… based on this VERY limited data source (so really useless….[/quote]

selection bias.

It’s a group of women who want to be moms and want to have kids and
want to hang out with other moms.

The census numbers are very straightforward.

How about the tons of women who just aren’t marrying
or the ones not having kids.

[patb]

[quote=UCGal]

I’m active on a “mom’s message board”… It’s about 70 women who all have kids born the same month/year… from 4 different countries.

On that board the number of families with 4 or more kids is greater than the number of families with just 1 child. So… based on this VERY limited data source (so really useless….[/quote]

selection bias.

It’s a group of women who want to be moms and want to have kids and
want to hang out with other moms.

The census numbers are very straightforward.

How about the tons of women who just aren’t marrying
or the ones not having kids.

[patb]

[quote=UCGal]

I’m active on a “mom’s message board”… It’s about 70 women who all have kids born the same month/year… from 4 different countries.

On that board the number of families with 4 or more kids is greater than the number of families with just 1 child. So… based on this VERY limited data source (so really useless….[/quote]

selection bias.

It’s a group of women who want to be moms and want to have kids and
want to hang out with other moms.

The census numbers are very straightforward.

How about the tons of women who just aren’t marrying
or the ones not having kids.

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