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[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl]AN, perhaps far-reaching uninc areas of Poway could be considered “exurbs” but no, the other areas you mentioned are not exurbs. They are “suburban.”

RSF is situated inside a covenant. It is a different animal entirely.[/quote]
If only far-reaching uninc areas of Poway could be considered “exurbs”, then please tell me which part of that area of Poway have houses with <5000 sq-ft lot as the majority?

BTW, let just be clear, you're saying that 4S Ranch is not exurb.[/quote]

4S is an "exurb." Its entire zip code was developed in the last 8 years or so. There was little to no development at all there. It was developed from nothing ... the same as Otay Ranch. No part of these communities are well-established.

The uninc area of Poway that is an "exurb" doesn't have too many tracts. The ones that are there are small tracts. This area is comprised of mostly customs. Persons who build custom homes do not waste their money building on minuscule lots.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
4S is an “exurb.” Its entire zip code was developed in the last 8 years or so. There was little to no development at all there. It was developed from nothing … the same as Otay Ranch. No part of these communities are well-established.

The uninc area of Poway that is an “exurb” doesn’t have too many tracts. The ones that are there are small tracts. This area is comprised of mostly customs. Persons who build custom homes do not waste their money building on minuscule lots.[/quote]
You must be a little confused as to where 4S is. I hope you know 4S is in Rancho Bernardo, which is in the list I listed and you said it’s not an exurb. 92127 currently have 94 properties older than 8 years listed for sale. 35 of those 94 properties are SFR.

The entire 92127 WAS NOT developed in the last 8 years. I hope you are aware you just contradicting yourself w/ the “exurb” statement with regards to Poway.

This is what you said about exurb:
[quote=bearishgurl]I disagree that “exurb” housing is primarily “low-density,” Eugene. In the SD County “exurbs”, the vast majority of =<3000 sf SFR's are built on substandard lots (<5000 sf), are encumbered with an HOA and also usually CFD(s). The vast majority of 30+ yr old houses in SD County sit on bigger lots and have far more desirable locations than those built in the "exurbs" in the last 15 years.[/quote]

Then you say this about Poway exurb:

[quote=bearishgurl]The uninc area of Poway that is an "exurb" doesn't have too many tracts. The ones that are there are small tracts. This area is comprised of mostly customs. Persons who build custom homes do not waste their money building on minuscule lots.[/quote]

So, which is it?

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
4S is an “exurb.” Its entire zip code was developed in the last 8 years or so. There was little to no development at all there. It was developed from nothing … the same as Otay Ranch. No part of these communities are well-established.

The uninc area of Poway that is an “exurb” doesn’t have too many tracts. The ones that are there are small tracts. This area is comprised of mostly customs. Persons who build custom homes do not waste their money building on minuscule lots.[/quote]
You must be a little confused as to where 4S is. I hope you know 4S is in Rancho Bernardo, which is in the list I listed and you said it’s not an exurb. 92127 currently have 94 properties older than 8 years listed for sale. 35 of those 94 properties are SFR.

The entire 92127 WAS NOT developed in the last 8 years. I hope you are aware you just contradicting yourself w/ the “exurb” statement with regards to Poway.

This is what you said about exurb:
[quote=bearishgurl]I disagree that “exurb” housing is primarily “low-density,” Eugene. In the SD County “exurbs”, the vast majority of =<3000 sf SFR's are built on substandard lots (<5000 sf), are encumbered with an HOA and also usually CFD(s). The vast majority of 30+ yr old houses in SD County sit on bigger lots and have far more desirable locations than those built in the "exurbs" in the last 15 years.[/quote]

Then you say this about Poway exurb:

[quote=bearishgurl]The uninc area of Poway that is an "exurb" doesn't have too many tracts. The ones that are there are small tracts. This area is comprised of mostly customs. Persons who build custom homes do not waste their money building on minuscule lots.[/quote]

So, which is it?

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
4S is an “exurb.” Its entire zip code was developed in the last 8 years or so. There was little to no development at all there. It was developed from nothing … the same as Otay Ranch. No part of these communities are well-established.

The uninc area of Poway that is an “exurb” doesn’t have too many tracts. The ones that are there are small tracts. This area is comprised of mostly customs. Persons who build custom homes do not waste their money building on minuscule lots.[/quote]
You must be a little confused as to where 4S is. I hope you know 4S is in Rancho Bernardo, which is in the list I listed and you said it’s not an exurb. 92127 currently have 94 properties older than 8 years listed for sale. 35 of those 94 properties are SFR.

The entire 92127 WAS NOT developed in the last 8 years. I hope you are aware you just contradicting yourself w/ the “exurb” statement with regards to Poway.

This is what you said about exurb:
[quote=bearishgurl]I disagree that “exurb” housing is primarily “low-density,” Eugene. In the SD County “exurbs”, the vast majority of =<3000 sf SFR's are built on substandard lots (<5000 sf), are encumbered with an HOA and also usually CFD(s). The vast majority of 30+ yr old houses in SD County sit on bigger lots and have far more desirable locations than those built in the "exurbs" in the last 15 years.[/quote]

Then you say this about Poway exurb:

[quote=bearishgurl]The uninc area of Poway that is an "exurb" doesn't have too many tracts. The ones that are there are small tracts. This area is comprised of mostly customs. Persons who build custom homes do not waste their money building on minuscule lots.[/quote]

So, which is it?

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
4S is an “exurb.” Its entire zip code was developed in the last 8 years or so. There was little to no development at all there. It was developed from nothing … the same as Otay Ranch. No part of these communities are well-established.

The uninc area of Poway that is an “exurb” doesn’t have too many tracts. The ones that are there are small tracts. This area is comprised of mostly customs. Persons who build custom homes do not waste their money building on minuscule lots.[/quote]
You must be a little confused as to where 4S is. I hope you know 4S is in Rancho Bernardo, which is in the list I listed and you said it’s not an exurb. 92127 currently have 94 properties older than 8 years listed for sale. 35 of those 94 properties are SFR.

The entire 92127 WAS NOT developed in the last 8 years. I hope you are aware you just contradicting yourself w/ the “exurb” statement with regards to Poway.

This is what you said about exurb:
[quote=bearishgurl]I disagree that “exurb” housing is primarily “low-density,” Eugene. In the SD County “exurbs”, the vast majority of =<3000 sf SFR's are built on substandard lots (<5000 sf), are encumbered with an HOA and also usually CFD(s). The vast majority of 30+ yr old houses in SD County sit on bigger lots and have far more desirable locations than those built in the "exurbs" in the last 15 years.[/quote]

Then you say this about Poway exurb:

[quote=bearishgurl]The uninc area of Poway that is an "exurb" doesn't have too many tracts. The ones that are there are small tracts. This area is comprised of mostly customs. Persons who build custom homes do not waste their money building on minuscule lots.[/quote]

So, which is it?

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
4S is an “exurb.” Its entire zip code was developed in the last 8 years or so. There was little to no development at all there. It was developed from nothing … the same as Otay Ranch. No part of these communities are well-established.

The uninc area of Poway that is an “exurb” doesn’t have too many tracts. The ones that are there are small tracts. This area is comprised of mostly customs. Persons who build custom homes do not waste their money building on minuscule lots.[/quote]
You must be a little confused as to where 4S is. I hope you know 4S is in Rancho Bernardo, which is in the list I listed and you said it’s not an exurb. 92127 currently have 94 properties older than 8 years listed for sale. 35 of those 94 properties are SFR.

The entire 92127 WAS NOT developed in the last 8 years. I hope you are aware you just contradicting yourself w/ the “exurb” statement with regards to Poway.

This is what you said about exurb:
[quote=bearishgurl]I disagree that “exurb” housing is primarily “low-density,” Eugene. In the SD County “exurbs”, the vast majority of =<3000 sf SFR's are built on substandard lots (<5000 sf), are encumbered with an HOA and also usually CFD(s). The vast majority of 30+ yr old houses in SD County sit on bigger lots and have far more desirable locations than those built in the "exurbs" in the last 15 years.[/quote]

Then you say this about Poway exurb:

[quote=bearishgurl]The uninc area of Poway that is an "exurb" doesn't have too many tracts. The ones that are there are small tracts. This area is comprised of mostly customs. Persons who build custom homes do not waste their money building on minuscule lots.[/quote]

So, which is it?

[bearishgurl]

AN, it’s late and I will call it a DAY (for me, anyway). 4S is NOT part of RB. 4S is NOT part of a City. It is a far-flung “exurb” recently developed in the last 8-10 years. It is comprised of nearly ALL tracts. There was next to NOTHING there before 2000. The 90’s Thomas Guides I have here with their empty pages bear this out.

The eastern/northeastern part of Poway could be considered an “exurb” due to distance from fwys. It is an “exurb” but not a tract-laden exurb. Many custom homes exist in this area. It is VERY expensive in this state to build a custom home from the ground up. Persons who go thru this time and trouble DO NOT build them on substandard lots. It wouldn’t be worth the time, money and trouble to do so. Fallbrook and Bonsall are also exurbs. These areas are more well-established with many custom-built homes as well as smaller tracts which may or may not be built in the last ten years. They are “exurbs” due to distance from job centers but are not comprised of huge tracts, as 4S and Otay Ranch are.

An “exurb” is a far-flung area (established or not established) which is situated far from job centers, whose residents are largely freeway dependent. It often does not have all the retail and other services locally within it which its residents need. In addition, it is served very minimally, if at all, by public transportation.

Hope this clears your confusion.

[bearishgurl]

AN, it’s late and I will call it a DAY (for me, anyway). 4S is NOT part of RB. 4S is NOT part of a City. It is a far-flung “exurb” recently developed in the last 8-10 years. It is comprised of nearly ALL tracts. There was next to NOTHING there before 2000. The 90’s Thomas Guides I have here with their empty pages bear this out.

The eastern/northeastern part of Poway could be considered an “exurb” due to distance from fwys. It is an “exurb” but not a tract-laden exurb. Many custom homes exist in this area. It is VERY expensive in this state to build a custom home from the ground up. Persons who go thru this time and trouble DO NOT build them on substandard lots. It wouldn’t be worth the time, money and trouble to do so. Fallbrook and Bonsall are also exurbs. These areas are more well-established with many custom-built homes as well as smaller tracts which may or may not be built in the last ten years. They are “exurbs” due to distance from job centers but are not comprised of huge tracts, as 4S and Otay Ranch are.

An “exurb” is a far-flung area (established or not established) which is situated far from job centers, whose residents are largely freeway dependent. It often does not have all the retail and other services locally within it which its residents need. In addition, it is served very minimally, if at all, by public transportation.

Hope this clears your confusion.

[bearishgurl]

AN, it’s late and I will call it a DAY (for me, anyway). 4S is NOT part of RB. 4S is NOT part of a City. It is a far-flung “exurb” recently developed in the last 8-10 years. It is comprised of nearly ALL tracts. There was next to NOTHING there before 2000. The 90’s Thomas Guides I have here with their empty pages bear this out.

The eastern/northeastern part of Poway could be considered an “exurb” due to distance from fwys. It is an “exurb” but not a tract-laden exurb. Many custom homes exist in this area. It is VERY expensive in this state to build a custom home from the ground up. Persons who go thru this time and trouble DO NOT build them on substandard lots. It wouldn’t be worth the time, money and trouble to do so. Fallbrook and Bonsall are also exurbs. These areas are more well-established with many custom-built homes as well as smaller tracts which may or may not be built in the last ten years. They are “exurbs” due to distance from job centers but are not comprised of huge tracts, as 4S and Otay Ranch are.

An “exurb” is a far-flung area (established or not established) which is situated far from job centers, whose residents are largely freeway dependent. It often does not have all the retail and other services locally within it which its residents need. In addition, it is served very minimally, if at all, by public transportation.

Hope this clears your confusion.

[bearishgurl]

AN, it’s late and I will call it a DAY (for me, anyway). 4S is NOT part of RB. 4S is NOT part of a City. It is a far-flung “exurb” recently developed in the last 8-10 years. It is comprised of nearly ALL tracts. There was next to NOTHING there before 2000. The 90’s Thomas Guides I have here with their empty pages bear this out.

The eastern/northeastern part of Poway could be considered an “exurb” due to distance from fwys. It is an “exurb” but not a tract-laden exurb. Many custom homes exist in this area. It is VERY expensive in this state to build a custom home from the ground up. Persons who go thru this time and trouble DO NOT build them on substandard lots. It wouldn’t be worth the time, money and trouble to do so. Fallbrook and Bonsall are also exurbs. These areas are more well-established with many custom-built homes as well as smaller tracts which may or may not be built in the last ten years. They are “exurbs” due to distance from job centers but are not comprised of huge tracts, as 4S and Otay Ranch are.

An “exurb” is a far-flung area (established or not established) which is situated far from job centers, whose residents are largely freeway dependent. It often does not have all the retail and other services locally within it which its residents need. In addition, it is served very minimally, if at all, by public transportation.

Hope this clears your confusion.

[bearishgurl]

AN, it’s late and I will call it a DAY (for me, anyway). 4S is NOT part of RB. 4S is NOT part of a City. It is a far-flung “exurb” recently developed in the last 8-10 years. It is comprised of nearly ALL tracts. There was next to NOTHING there before 2000. The 90’s Thomas Guides I have here with their empty pages bear this out.

The eastern/northeastern part of Poway could be considered an “exurb” due to distance from fwys. It is an “exurb” but not a tract-laden exurb. Many custom homes exist in this area. It is VERY expensive in this state to build a custom home from the ground up. Persons who go thru this time and trouble DO NOT build them on substandard lots. It wouldn’t be worth the time, money and trouble to do so. Fallbrook and Bonsall are also exurbs. These areas are more well-established with many custom-built homes as well as smaller tracts which may or may not be built in the last ten years. They are “exurbs” due to distance from job centers but are not comprised of huge tracts, as 4S and Otay Ranch are.

An “exurb” is a far-flung area (established or not established) which is situated far from job centers, whose residents are largely freeway dependent. It often does not have all the retail and other services locally within it which its residents need. In addition, it is served very minimally, if at all, by public transportation.

Hope this clears your confusion.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]AN, it’s late and I will call it a DAY (for me, anyway). 4S is NOT part of RB…[/quote]
Hmm… SDLookup is not agreeing with you: Here’s the link: http://www.sdlookup.com/Real_Estate-Rancho_Bernardo-Houses_For_Sale-92127. Please tell me what you see that the title of the area covered by 92127?

[quote=bearishgurl]An “exurb” is a far-flung area (established or not established) which is situated far from job centers, whose residents are largely freeway dependent. It often does not have all the retail and other services locally within it which its residents need. In addition, it is served very minimally, if at all, by public transportation.

Hope this clears your confusion.[/quote]
By this definition, 4S must not be an exurb, since it’s quite close (5-15 minute drive) to several large corporations. What retail and services do you think one need that 4S does not have? So, no, it hasn’t cleared up much confusion. Unless what you’re say is, you’re wrong with this statement:
[quote=bearishgurl]In the SD County “exurbs”, the vast majority of =<3000 sf SFR's are built on substandard lots (<5000 sf), are encumbered with an HOA and also usually CFD(s). The vast majority of 30+ yr old houses in SD County sit on bigger lots and have far more desirable locations than those built in the "exurbs" in the last 15 years.[/quote]
So, Bonsall, Fallbrook, Ramona, Alpine, etc. are true exurb. With this list of exurb, do you think the above statement is true?

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]AN, it’s late and I will call it a DAY (for me, anyway). 4S is NOT part of RB…[/quote]
Hmm… SDLookup is not agreeing with you: Here’s the link: http://www.sdlookup.com/Real_Estate-Rancho_Bernardo-Houses_For_Sale-92127. Please tell me what you see that the title of the area covered by 92127?

[quote=bearishgurl]An “exurb” is a far-flung area (established or not established) which is situated far from job centers, whose residents are largely freeway dependent. It often does not have all the retail and other services locally within it which its residents need. In addition, it is served very minimally, if at all, by public transportation.

Hope this clears your confusion.[/quote]
By this definition, 4S must not be an exurb, since it’s quite close (5-15 minute drive) to several large corporations. What retail and services do you think one need that 4S does not have? So, no, it hasn’t cleared up much confusion. Unless what you’re say is, you’re wrong with this statement:
[quote=bearishgurl]In the SD County “exurbs”, the vast majority of =<3000 sf SFR's are built on substandard lots (<5000 sf), are encumbered with an HOA and also usually CFD(s). The vast majority of 30+ yr old houses in SD County sit on bigger lots and have far more desirable locations than those built in the "exurbs" in the last 15 years.[/quote]
So, Bonsall, Fallbrook, Ramona, Alpine, etc. are true exurb. With this list of exurb, do you think the above statement is true?

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]AN, it’s late and I will call it a DAY (for me, anyway). 4S is NOT part of RB…[/quote]
Hmm… SDLookup is not agreeing with you: Here’s the link: http://www.sdlookup.com/Real_Estate-Rancho_Bernardo-Houses_For_Sale-92127. Please tell me what you see that the title of the area covered by 92127?

[quote=bearishgurl]An “exurb” is a far-flung area (established or not established) which is situated far from job centers, whose residents are largely freeway dependent. It often does not have all the retail and other services locally within it which its residents need. In addition, it is served very minimally, if at all, by public transportation.

Hope this clears your confusion.[/quote]
By this definition, 4S must not be an exurb, since it’s quite close (5-15 minute drive) to several large corporations. What retail and services do you think one need that 4S does not have? So, no, it hasn’t cleared up much confusion. Unless what you’re say is, you’re wrong with this statement:
[quote=bearishgurl]In the SD County “exurbs”, the vast majority of =<3000 sf SFR's are built on substandard lots (<5000 sf), are encumbered with an HOA and also usually CFD(s). The vast majority of 30+ yr old houses in SD County sit on bigger lots and have far more desirable locations than those built in the "exurbs" in the last 15 years.[/quote]
So, Bonsall, Fallbrook, Ramona, Alpine, etc. are true exurb. With this list of exurb, do you think the above statement is true?

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]AN, it’s late and I will call it a DAY (for me, anyway). 4S is NOT part of RB…[/quote]
Hmm… SDLookup is not agreeing with you: Here’s the link: http://www.sdlookup.com/Real_Estate-Rancho_Bernardo-Houses_For_Sale-92127. Please tell me what you see that the title of the area covered by 92127?

[quote=bearishgurl]An “exurb” is a far-flung area (established or not established) which is situated far from job centers, whose residents are largely freeway dependent. It often does not have all the retail and other services locally within it which its residents need. In addition, it is served very minimally, if at all, by public transportation.

Hope this clears your confusion.[/quote]
By this definition, 4S must not be an exurb, since it’s quite close (5-15 minute drive) to several large corporations. What retail and services do you think one need that 4S does not have? So, no, it hasn’t cleared up much confusion. Unless what you’re say is, you’re wrong with this statement:
[quote=bearishgurl]In the SD County “exurbs”, the vast majority of =<3000 sf SFR's are built on substandard lots (<5000 sf), are encumbered with an HOA and also usually CFD(s). The vast majority of 30+ yr old houses in SD County sit on bigger lots and have far more desirable locations than those built in the "exurbs" in the last 15 years.[/quote]
So, Bonsall, Fallbrook, Ramona, Alpine, etc. are true exurb. With this list of exurb, do you think the above statement is true?

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