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[quote=CA renter]
BTW, it’s not that I think ALL products made overseas are inferior. My vacuum cleaner is a Miele (love it!), which is made in Germany. But every item I’ve ever bought that was made in China has been of far worse quality than the same item that was once made in the USA. Can you think of something that is now made in China, that was once made here, that is of the same or better quality than the original, US-made product?

I also want to support countries that have labor and environmental standards that are similar to — or better than — ours.[/quote]

Yes… Most computers, most tv’s, most digital camera….All of them have a japanese name on them, but manufacturing in China…

So question: why are japanese branded products made in china still reasonably reliable while our U.S. counterpart products made in china crap???Perhaps Japan has speced out greater quality control than say U.S. greed companies???? I did a bit of research on the Mattel toy recall fiasco.. Interestingly, what Mattel did (or didn’t do)…

You know carenter, you really should redirect your attention to the corporate greedsters that are doing this versus “China”…If not China, it would be some other country that could produce things cheaper….Like right now, “Vietnam”….Because China manufacturing isn’t exactly considered third world anymore and the costs are getting higher.

The problem with U.S. companies (and U.S. in general these days) is greed. Greed at the corporate level (maximize profits with however seems fit)….Greed at the government level (pork)…Even greed at the individual level (entitlement mentality).

It’s absolutely disgusting what groups like UAW do to pin the blame on scapegoats “overseas” and “consumers”, when those so called american brands significantly import parts and outsource manufacturing elsewhere to places like Mexico and Canada. I don’t know why some folks have so much frickin fear of asia, but have no issues sending jobs to mexico. Or buying toothpaste from mexico…(which by the way, is exactly where almost all your toothpaste comes from these days…check the label you your crest,total, colgate tube….)

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outtamojo – once again, I agree w/CAR. Though my mom came here legally in the 50’s, she worked as a seamstress in slave conditions back in the day. We take for granted our work environment every day today, but back in the day, shops were tough to work in. Unions paved the way for humane working pay and conditions, until they got carried away as well. But the point is, your mom, my mom were glad to be in this country to work at any job, b/c if it were truly horrible, they would’ve stayed in the country they were in.

And as CAR said, I also do not condone illegal immigration. My mom came w/her family after the war. It took them over 10 years to try to get here. May take a while even today, but that’s the way it should be done.

And again, as CAR said, worker should fight to have standards up to ours, not bring ours back down to deplorable levels — including our economy.

[quote=CAR]
But every item I’ve ever bought that was made in China has been of far worse quality than the same item that was once made in the USA. Can you think of something that is now made in China, that was once made here, that is of the same or better quality than the original, US-made product?

I also want to support countries that have labor and environmental standards that are similar to — or better than — ours.[/quote]

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[quote=flu]
You know carenter, you really should redirect your attention to the corporate greedsters that are doing this versus “China”…[/quote]
Voting w/my dollars.

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outtamojo – once again, I agree w/CAR. Though my mom came here legally in the 50’s, she worked as a seamstress in slave conditions back in the day. We take for granted our work environment every day today, but back in the day, shops were tough to work in. Unions paved the way for humane working pay and conditions, until they got carried away as well. But the point is, your mom, my mom were glad to be in this country to work at any job, b/c if it were truly horrible, they would’ve stayed in the country they were in.

And as CAR said, I also do not condone illegal immigration. My mom came w/her family after the war. It took them over 10 years to try to get here. May take a while even today, but that’s the way it should be done.

And again, as CAR said, worker should fight to have standards up to ours, not bring ours back down to deplorable levels — including our economy.

[quote=CAR]
But every item I’ve ever bought that was made in China has been of far worse quality than the same item that was once made in the USA. Can you think of something that is now made in China, that was once made here, that is of the same or better quality than the original, US-made product?

I also want to support countries that have labor and environmental standards that are similar to — or better than — ours.[/quote]

X2

[quote=flu]
You know carenter, you really should redirect your attention to the corporate greedsters that are doing this versus “China”…[/quote]
Voting w/my dollars.

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outtamojo – once again, I agree w/CAR. Though my mom came here legally in the 50’s, she worked as a seamstress in slave conditions back in the day. We take for granted our work environment every day today, but back in the day, shops were tough to work in. Unions paved the way for humane working pay and conditions, until they got carried away as well. But the point is, your mom, my mom were glad to be in this country to work at any job, b/c if it were truly horrible, they would’ve stayed in the country they were in.

And as CAR said, I also do not condone illegal immigration. My mom came w/her family after the war. It took them over 10 years to try to get here. May take a while even today, but that’s the way it should be done.

And again, as CAR said, worker should fight to have standards up to ours, not bring ours back down to deplorable levels — including our economy.

[quote=CAR]
But every item I’ve ever bought that was made in China has been of far worse quality than the same item that was once made in the USA. Can you think of something that is now made in China, that was once made here, that is of the same or better quality than the original, US-made product?

I also want to support countries that have labor and environmental standards that are similar to — or better than — ours.[/quote]

X2

[quote=flu]
You know carenter, you really should redirect your attention to the corporate greedsters that are doing this versus “China”…[/quote]
Voting w/my dollars.

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outtamojo – once again, I agree w/CAR. Though my mom came here legally in the 50’s, she worked as a seamstress in slave conditions back in the day. We take for granted our work environment every day today, but back in the day, shops were tough to work in. Unions paved the way for humane working pay and conditions, until they got carried away as well. But the point is, your mom, my mom were glad to be in this country to work at any job, b/c if it were truly horrible, they would’ve stayed in the country they were in.

And as CAR said, I also do not condone illegal immigration. My mom came w/her family after the war. It took them over 10 years to try to get here. May take a while even today, but that’s the way it should be done.

And again, as CAR said, worker should fight to have standards up to ours, not bring ours back down to deplorable levels — including our economy.

[quote=CAR]
But every item I’ve ever bought that was made in China has been of far worse quality than the same item that was once made in the USA. Can you think of something that is now made in China, that was once made here, that is of the same or better quality than the original, US-made product?

I also want to support countries that have labor and environmental standards that are similar to — or better than — ours.[/quote]

X2

[quote=flu]
You know carenter, you really should redirect your attention to the corporate greedsters that are doing this versus “China”…[/quote]
Voting w/my dollars.

[jpinpb]

outtamojo – once again, I agree w/CAR. Though my mom came here legally in the 50’s, she worked as a seamstress in slave conditions back in the day. We take for granted our work environment every day today, but back in the day, shops were tough to work in. Unions paved the way for humane working pay and conditions, until they got carried away as well. But the point is, your mom, my mom were glad to be in this country to work at any job, b/c if it were truly horrible, they would’ve stayed in the country they were in.

And as CAR said, I also do not condone illegal immigration. My mom came w/her family after the war. It took them over 10 years to try to get here. May take a while even today, but that’s the way it should be done.

And again, as CAR said, worker should fight to have standards up to ours, not bring ours back down to deplorable levels — including our economy.

[quote=CAR]
But every item I’ve ever bought that was made in China has been of far worse quality than the same item that was once made in the USA. Can you think of something that is now made in China, that was once made here, that is of the same or better quality than the original, US-made product?

I also want to support countries that have labor and environmental standards that are similar to — or better than — ours.[/quote]

X2

[quote=flu]
You know carenter, you really should redirect your attention to the corporate greedsters that are doing this versus “China”…[/quote]
Voting w/my dollars.

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CAR – maybe eavesdropper can use you as second in charge. You have my vote, too.

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CAR – maybe eavesdropper can use you as second in charge. You have my vote, too.

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CAR – maybe eavesdropper can use you as second in charge. You have my vote, too.

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CAR – maybe eavesdropper can use you as second in charge. You have my vote, too.

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CAR – maybe eavesdropper can use you as second in charge. You have my vote, too.

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[quote=flu]Or buying toothpaste from mexico…(which by the way, is exactly where almost all your toothpaste comes from these days…check the label you your crest,total, colgate tube….)[/quote]
Peelu gum – made in the USA. I’ll pay extra for my mouth.

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[quote=flu]Or buying toothpaste from mexico…(which by the way, is exactly where almost all your toothpaste comes from these days…check the label you your crest,total, colgate tube….)[/quote]
Peelu gum – made in the USA. I’ll pay extra for my mouth.

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[quote=flu]Or buying toothpaste from mexico…(which by the way, is exactly where almost all your toothpaste comes from these days…check the label you your crest,total, colgate tube….)[/quote]
Peelu gum – made in the USA. I’ll pay extra for my mouth.

[jpinpb]

[quote=flu]Or buying toothpaste from mexico…(which by the way, is exactly where almost all your toothpaste comes from these days…check the label you your crest,total, colgate tube….)[/quote]
Peelu gum – made in the USA. I’ll pay extra for my mouth.

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