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[bearishgurl]

[quote=eavesdropper] . . . BTW, I’m one of the lucky ones: I was my husband’s high school crush, one upon which he never acted (probably because he knew I’d deck him…) At any rate, we met again many years later. We’ve been together 12 years now, and (without going into graphic detail) it’s still great! He says that marrying the girl that you fantasized about from the time you were 15 is a total aphrodisiac. All I know is that I can be 15 pounds overweight, have 1 inch of gray roots in my hair, puffy eyes from pulling an all-nighter, and no makeup, and all he’s seeing is the girl I was back in the 70s. It’s pretty cool.[/quote]

Eaves, floors aside, your story is inspiring … and more common than most folks would believe, esp among “boomers” :=D

[bearishgurl]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Do you make housecalls for hardwood-flooring installation classes, eaves?? Looking for about 450 – 600 sf of 1.5″ red oak slats. I’ll do all the mat’ls ordering and furniture moving. I just live about ten mins from Coronado (where you and your spouse can spend your eves) and have two sets of knee pads (one for each of us) :=!

I have a nice guest room which doesn’t need flooring. Think about it :=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Do you make housecalls for hardwood-flooring installation classes, eaves?? Looking for about 450 – 600 sf of 1.5″ red oak slats. I’ll do all the mat’ls ordering and furniture moving. I just live about ten mins from Coronado (where you and your spouse can spend your eves) and have two sets of knee pads (one for each of us) :=!

I have a nice guest room which doesn’t need flooring. Think about it :=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Do you make housecalls for hardwood-flooring installation classes, eaves?? Looking for about 450 – 600 sf of 1.5″ red oak slats. I’ll do all the mat’ls ordering and furniture moving. I just live about ten mins from Coronado (where you and your spouse can spend your eves) and have two sets of knee pads (one for each of us) :=!

I have a nice guest room which doesn’t need flooring. Think about it :=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Do you make housecalls for hardwood-flooring installation classes, eaves?? Looking for about 450 – 600 sf of 1.5″ red oak slats. I’ll do all the mat’ls ordering and furniture moving. I just live about ten mins from Coronado (where you and your spouse can spend your eves) and have two sets of knee pads (one for each of us) :=!

I have a nice guest room which doesn’t need flooring. Think about it :=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Do you make housecalls for hardwood-flooring installation classes, eaves?? Looking for about 450 – 600 sf of 1.5″ red oak slats. I’ll do all the mat’ls ordering and furniture moving. I just live about ten mins from Coronado (where you and your spouse can spend your eves) and have two sets of knee pads (one for each of us) :=!

I have a nice guest room which doesn’t need flooring. Think about it :=]

[njtosd]

[quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]

Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]

But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.

[/quote]

Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.

[njtosd]

[quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]

Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]

But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.

[/quote]

Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.

[njtosd]

[quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]

Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]

But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.

[/quote]

Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.

[njtosd]

[quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]

Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]

But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.

[/quote]

Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.

[njtosd]

[quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]

Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]

But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.

[/quote]

Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.

[outtamojo]

[quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]

Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]

But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.

[/quote]

Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.[/quote]

Not just in Detroit- when the GM plant in Fremont closed in the early 80’s the ignoramuses used to give their grief to anyone that was Asian. That’s why I chuckle when you apparently cannot have a Made in America store without an apparently catchy catchphrase picking out a bogeyman du jour and bashing him.

[outtamojo]

[quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]

Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]

But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.

[/quote]

Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.[/quote]

Not just in Detroit- when the GM plant in Fremont closed in the early 80’s the ignoramuses used to give their grief to anyone that was Asian. That’s why I chuckle when you apparently cannot have a Made in America store without an apparently catchy catchphrase picking out a bogeyman du jour and bashing him.

[outtamojo]

[quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]

Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]

But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.

[/quote]

Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.[/quote]

Not just in Detroit- when the GM plant in Fremont closed in the early 80’s the ignoramuses used to give their grief to anyone that was Asian. That’s why I chuckle when you apparently cannot have a Made in America store without an apparently catchy catchphrase picking out a bogeyman du jour and bashing him.

[outtamojo]

[quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter][quote=njtosd][quote=CA renter]
The UAW/union workers don’t scapegoat the foreign workers; they blame the executives and those who (again) make decisions that only seek to maximize profits, without any consideration for the long-term effects of their actions, or how their actions will affect this country in the future.[/quote]

Um. I don’t think you have spent much time in Detroit. I grew up there and the UAW members that I was aware of weren’t really picky about who they blamed for their troubles. At that time (I left in 1990) you didn’t want to park your foreign car downtown very often, unless you liked getting it keyed. Convertible tops on foreign cars were routinely slashed. The UAW workers wanted jobs, and if they could have excluded every foreign car from the U.S., they would have, regardless of their ability/inability to supply a product of equal quality. And don’t get me started on the “job banks.” Ridiculous.[/quote]

But were they angry at the *workers* in those foreign countries, or were they angry about the fact that they saw their jobs being threatened by those *companies*? I make a distinction between workers and the companies they work for.

[/quote]

Judging by the colorful phrases used in describing people from other auto supplying countries, I’d say they didn’t make any distinction.[/quote]

Not just in Detroit- when the GM plant in Fremont closed in the early 80’s the ignoramuses used to give their grief to anyone that was Asian. That’s why I chuckle when you apparently cannot have a Made in America store without an apparently catchy catchphrase picking out a bogeyman du jour and bashing him.

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