PIIGS R’ us?

[CA renter]

[quote=jpinpb][quote=outtamojo]I don’t understand- are you saying it’s not good to overpay for something because it’s made in America?[/quote]

No. Sorry you don’t understand. I’m saying it’s not good to make real estate be the main source of your economy and have it turn into an investment speculative bubble. I’m sure I don’t need to begin to explain it all as there are endless threads about it on this site. Perhaps you can read through some of them.

And again — overpaying for quality is different than overpaying for MIC crap.

But I suspect that your post was just one of taunting me, so I’ll just stop.[/quote]

Let’s make things even clearer — you’re not overpaying for something if you’re getting something that lasts longer, and is of better quality than the less expensive version.

For example, if one person pays $100 for a vacuum cleaner that lasts for two years, and another person pays $700 for a vacuum cleaner that lasts 20 years, who is “overpaying”?

We won’t even go into the fact that this “cheap, disposable” model is far, far worse for our environment than the “more expensive, but durable” model.

But, of course, the “cheap, disposable” model is more profitable, so we should all celebrate the superiority of “capitalism” and the “right to profit,” no matter what damage is done to others or our environment.

[CA renter]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Eavesdropper, you seriously need to run for public office. I think you just got your first two votes! 🙂

[CA renter]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Eavesdropper, you seriously need to run for public office. I think you just got your first two votes! 🙂

[CA renter]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Eavesdropper, you seriously need to run for public office. I think you just got your first two votes! 🙂

[CA renter]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Eavesdropper, you seriously need to run for public office. I think you just got your first two votes! 🙂

[CA renter]

[quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Eavesdropper, you seriously need to run for public office. I think you just got your first two votes! 🙂

[eavesdropper]

[quote=CA renter][quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Eavesdropper, you seriously need to run for public office. I think you just got your first two votes! :)[/quote]

Now that I think about it, CAR….isn’t that how most public officials get their hardwood floors?

I think you may be on to something…..

[eavesdropper]

[quote=CA renter][quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Eavesdropper, you seriously need to run for public office. I think you just got your first two votes! :)[/quote]

Now that I think about it, CAR….isn’t that how most public officials get their hardwood floors?

I think you may be on to something…..

[eavesdropper]

[quote=CA renter][quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Eavesdropper, you seriously need to run for public office. I think you just got your first two votes! :)[/quote]

Now that I think about it, CAR….isn’t that how most public officials get their hardwood floors?

I think you may be on to something…..

[eavesdropper]

[quote=CA renter][quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Eavesdropper, you seriously need to run for public office. I think you just got your first two votes! :)[/quote]

Now that I think about it, CAR….isn’t that how most public officials get their hardwood floors?

I think you may be on to something…..

[eavesdropper]

[quote=CA renter][quote=eavesdropper][quote=jpinpb]eavesdropper – Thank you for so eloquently stating things![/quote]

At your service, jp. Wish that eloquence would work on my husband. Baby wants new hardwood on the second floor…..[/quote]

Eavesdropper, you seriously need to run for public office. I think you just got your first two votes! :)[/quote]

Now that I think about it, CAR….isn’t that how most public officials get their hardwood floors?

I think you may be on to something…..

[outtamojo]

[quote=CA renter][quote=jpinpb][quote=outtamojo]I don’t understand- are you saying it’s not good to overpay for something because it’s made in America?[/quote]

No. Sorry you don’t understand. I’m saying it’s not good to make real estate be the main source of your economy and have it turn into an investment speculative bubble. I’m sure I don’t need to begin to explain it all as there are endless threads about it on this site. Perhaps you can read through some of them.

And again — overpaying for quality is different than overpaying for MIC crap.

But I suspect that your post was just one of taunting me, so I’ll just stop.[/quote]

Let’s make things even clearer — you’re not overpaying for something if you’re getting something that lasts longer, and is of better quality than the less expensive version.

For example, if one person pays $100 for a vacuum cleaner that lasts for two years, and another person pays $700 for a vacuum cleaner that lasts 20 years, who is “overpaying”?

We won’t even go into the fact that this “cheap, disposable” model is far, far worse for our environment than the “more expensive, but durable” model.

But, of course, the “cheap, disposable” model is more profitable, so we should all celebrate the superiority of “capitalism” and the “right to profit,” no matter what damage is done to others or our environment.[/quote]

You don’t have to convince me to buy a $700 vacuum-I own a Sebo cause I got tired of buying a new vacuum every couple of years. I just don’t understand blanket statements like China makes only crap and that which is made/ or should be made in America will be of superior quality or “buy American, help your country” yada yada. As eavesdropper says also- be wary of that which claims to be made in America.Just cause it says made in America doesn’t mean it wasn’t made in some asian sweatshop in Orange county or the Bay Area – I know cause my mom use to work in one when I was little and she would show me stuff in stores that were stitched together in our very own home(rented, of course). I still haven’t decided if sweatshops were a good thing for us or a bad thing – I lean toward a good thing cause I don’t think a business run by caucasians would have hired my mom and allowed her to work from home back then. Did she take what might have been a higher paying job away from an established citizen? Maybe, but my feeling is, jeeze, if you been in America for a long time, what are you still doing with such a lowly skill set,living in a country with more opportunity than any in the world,competing for a job against someone who literally just got off a plane and doesn’t know the language.

[outtamojo]

[quote=CA renter][quote=jpinpb][quote=outtamojo]I don’t understand- are you saying it’s not good to overpay for something because it’s made in America?[/quote]

No. Sorry you don’t understand. I’m saying it’s not good to make real estate be the main source of your economy and have it turn into an investment speculative bubble. I’m sure I don’t need to begin to explain it all as there are endless threads about it on this site. Perhaps you can read through some of them.

And again — overpaying for quality is different than overpaying for MIC crap.

But I suspect that your post was just one of taunting me, so I’ll just stop.[/quote]

Let’s make things even clearer — you’re not overpaying for something if you’re getting something that lasts longer, and is of better quality than the less expensive version.

For example, if one person pays $100 for a vacuum cleaner that lasts for two years, and another person pays $700 for a vacuum cleaner that lasts 20 years, who is “overpaying”?

We won’t even go into the fact that this “cheap, disposable” model is far, far worse for our environment than the “more expensive, but durable” model.

But, of course, the “cheap, disposable” model is more profitable, so we should all celebrate the superiority of “capitalism” and the “right to profit,” no matter what damage is done to others or our environment.[/quote]

You don’t have to convince me to buy a $700 vacuum-I own a Sebo cause I got tired of buying a new vacuum every couple of years. I just don’t understand blanket statements like China makes only crap and that which is made/ or should be made in America will be of superior quality or “buy American, help your country” yada yada. As eavesdropper says also- be wary of that which claims to be made in America.Just cause it says made in America doesn’t mean it wasn’t made in some asian sweatshop in Orange county or the Bay Area – I know cause my mom use to work in one when I was little and she would show me stuff in stores that were stitched together in our very own home(rented, of course). I still haven’t decided if sweatshops were a good thing for us or a bad thing – I lean toward a good thing cause I don’t think a business run by caucasians would have hired my mom and allowed her to work from home back then. Did she take what might have been a higher paying job away from an established citizen? Maybe, but my feeling is, jeeze, if you been in America for a long time, what are you still doing with such a lowly skill set,living in a country with more opportunity than any in the world,competing for a job against someone who literally just got off a plane and doesn’t know the language.

[outtamojo]

[quote=CA renter][quote=jpinpb][quote=outtamojo]I don’t understand- are you saying it’s not good to overpay for something because it’s made in America?[/quote]

No. Sorry you don’t understand. I’m saying it’s not good to make real estate be the main source of your economy and have it turn into an investment speculative bubble. I’m sure I don’t need to begin to explain it all as there are endless threads about it on this site. Perhaps you can read through some of them.

And again — overpaying for quality is different than overpaying for MIC crap.

But I suspect that your post was just one of taunting me, so I’ll just stop.[/quote]

Let’s make things even clearer — you’re not overpaying for something if you’re getting something that lasts longer, and is of better quality than the less expensive version.

For example, if one person pays $100 for a vacuum cleaner that lasts for two years, and another person pays $700 for a vacuum cleaner that lasts 20 years, who is “overpaying”?

We won’t even go into the fact that this “cheap, disposable” model is far, far worse for our environment than the “more expensive, but durable” model.

But, of course, the “cheap, disposable” model is more profitable, so we should all celebrate the superiority of “capitalism” and the “right to profit,” no matter what damage is done to others or our environment.[/quote]

You don’t have to convince me to buy a $700 vacuum-I own a Sebo cause I got tired of buying a new vacuum every couple of years. I just don’t understand blanket statements like China makes only crap and that which is made/ or should be made in America will be of superior quality or “buy American, help your country” yada yada. As eavesdropper says also- be wary of that which claims to be made in America.Just cause it says made in America doesn’t mean it wasn’t made in some asian sweatshop in Orange county or the Bay Area – I know cause my mom use to work in one when I was little and she would show me stuff in stores that were stitched together in our very own home(rented, of course). I still haven’t decided if sweatshops were a good thing for us or a bad thing – I lean toward a good thing cause I don’t think a business run by caucasians would have hired my mom and allowed her to work from home back then. Did she take what might have been a higher paying job away from an established citizen? Maybe, but my feeling is, jeeze, if you been in America for a long time, what are you still doing with such a lowly skill set,living in a country with more opportunity than any in the world,competing for a job against someone who literally just got off a plane and doesn’t know the language.

[outtamojo]

[quote=CA renter][quote=jpinpb][quote=outtamojo]I don’t understand- are you saying it’s not good to overpay for something because it’s made in America?[/quote]

No. Sorry you don’t understand. I’m saying it’s not good to make real estate be the main source of your economy and have it turn into an investment speculative bubble. I’m sure I don’t need to begin to explain it all as there are endless threads about it on this site. Perhaps you can read through some of them.

And again — overpaying for quality is different than overpaying for MIC crap.

But I suspect that your post was just one of taunting me, so I’ll just stop.[/quote]

Let’s make things even clearer — you’re not overpaying for something if you’re getting something that lasts longer, and is of better quality than the less expensive version.

For example, if one person pays $100 for a vacuum cleaner that lasts for two years, and another person pays $700 for a vacuum cleaner that lasts 20 years, who is “overpaying”?

We won’t even go into the fact that this “cheap, disposable” model is far, far worse for our environment than the “more expensive, but durable” model.

But, of course, the “cheap, disposable” model is more profitable, so we should all celebrate the superiority of “capitalism” and the “right to profit,” no matter what damage is done to others or our environment.[/quote]

You don’t have to convince me to buy a $700 vacuum-I own a Sebo cause I got tired of buying a new vacuum every couple of years. I just don’t understand blanket statements like China makes only crap and that which is made/ or should be made in America will be of superior quality or “buy American, help your country” yada yada. As eavesdropper says also- be wary of that which claims to be made in America.Just cause it says made in America doesn’t mean it wasn’t made in some asian sweatshop in Orange county or the Bay Area – I know cause my mom use to work in one when I was little and she would show me stuff in stores that were stitched together in our very own home(rented, of course). I still haven’t decided if sweatshops were a good thing for us or a bad thing – I lean toward a good thing cause I don’t think a business run by caucasians would have hired my mom and allowed her to work from home back then. Did she take what might have been a higher paying job away from an established citizen? Maybe, but my feeling is, jeeze, if you been in America for a long time, what are you still doing with such a lowly skill set,living in a country with more opportunity than any in the world,competing for a job against someone who literally just got off a plane and doesn’t know the language.

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