Ot would we all be safer if everyone were armed?

[all]

Did you provision for illegally owned firearm? Or do Black people use eye gouging and testicular kicks to kill each other in DC? Once the authorities in Chicago and D.C. see this analysis they’ll solve their problem by arming everyone.

Ex-scaredy asked if a gun in every hand would make everyone feel safer. I say it might make people feel safe, but it will not truly make them safe. Instead, disturbed people (and apparently big bad black dudes not involved with NFL or NBA) will have a tool to project their disturbance onto soccer moms with three kids on the back seat and a gun in the attic safe.

I totally get TG’s “that’s the way I like it and if you don’t like that it’s your problem, not mine” position. But I don’t think adults need to pretend that somehow their toys are what’s keeping them safe.

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl]Having lived in the Chula Vista area since 1986, I’ve never heard of the “1%’ers.” Guess I must have lived a “sheltered existence” here in the middle of the “gang-infested ghetto,” lol.

FWIW, Piggs, I don’t have iron grates on my windows, don’t own a gun and never owned a security system. And I have no plans to acquire any of these things![/quote]

1%’ers are self proclaimed outlaw bikers. The are the 1% of society that does not live by “the rules”.

Locally we have Hells Angles, Mongols, and various other groups.

And yeah… They hang in Chula Vista… Where do you think they would hang? La Jolla?

PSA by CE[/quote]

I would think Poway, Lakeside, Ramona, Campo, Boulevard and Dulzura, where they have historically “hung out.” Anyone have any idea where these so-called “outlaw bikers” hang out in Chula Vista? Could it be in 91911?? It could be said that 91910 and 91911 are almost completely different countries from one another. I’ve never seen them.[/quote]

Sure they hang out there too but you stated that you never seen them and e.g they must not be there.

I have some dealings with the Chula Vista PD. Its part of my job to provided data services to them so I get the local scoop on the dirt every once and awhile so I no a little more about that area then others. Not trying to pick on CV I just know more about it.

But if you have any doubts read this juice little tid bit.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs/654/meth.htm

Take care and lock your doors.

and I won’t argue that any nice nieghbor hood can’t go bad.

and I realize that CV has many nice places to live. I love the “hill” area by H street but would never buy a home there unless my childern were already out of school.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl]Having lived in the Chula Vista area since 1986, I’ve never heard of the “1%’ers.” Guess I must have lived a “sheltered existence” here in the middle of the “gang-infested ghetto,” lol.

FWIW, Piggs, I don’t have iron grates on my windows, don’t own a gun and never owned a security system. And I have no plans to acquire any of these things![/quote]

1%’ers are self proclaimed outlaw bikers. The are the 1% of society that does not live by “the rules”.

Locally we have Hells Angles, Mongols, and various other groups.

And yeah… They hang in Chula Vista… Where do you think they would hang? La Jolla?

PSA by CE[/quote]

I would think Poway, Lakeside, Ramona, Campo, Boulevard and Dulzura, where they have historically “hung out.” Anyone have any idea where these so-called “outlaw bikers” hang out in Chula Vista? Could it be in 91911?? It could be said that 91910 and 91911 are almost completely different countries from one another. I’ve never seen them.[/quote]

Sure they hang out there too but you stated that you never seen them and e.g they must not be there.

I have some dealings with the Chula Vista PD. Its part of my job to provided data services to them so I get the local scoop on the dirt every once and awhile so I no a little more about that area then others. Not trying to pick on CV I just know more about it.

But if you have any doubts read this juice little tid bit.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs/654/meth.htm

Take care and lock your doors.

and I won’t argue that any nice nieghbor hood can’t go bad.

and I realize that CV has many nice places to live. I love the “hill” area by H street but would never buy a home there unless my childern were already out of school.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl]Having lived in the Chula Vista area since 1986, I’ve never heard of the “1%’ers.” Guess I must have lived a “sheltered existence” here in the middle of the “gang-infested ghetto,” lol.

FWIW, Piggs, I don’t have iron grates on my windows, don’t own a gun and never owned a security system. And I have no plans to acquire any of these things![/quote]

1%’ers are self proclaimed outlaw bikers. The are the 1% of society that does not live by “the rules”.

Locally we have Hells Angles, Mongols, and various other groups.

And yeah… They hang in Chula Vista… Where do you think they would hang? La Jolla?

PSA by CE[/quote]

I would think Poway, Lakeside, Ramona, Campo, Boulevard and Dulzura, where they have historically “hung out.” Anyone have any idea where these so-called “outlaw bikers” hang out in Chula Vista? Could it be in 91911?? It could be said that 91910 and 91911 are almost completely different countries from one another. I’ve never seen them.[/quote]

Sure they hang out there too but you stated that you never seen them and e.g they must not be there.

I have some dealings with the Chula Vista PD. Its part of my job to provided data services to them so I get the local scoop on the dirt every once and awhile so I no a little more about that area then others. Not trying to pick on CV I just know more about it.

But if you have any doubts read this juice little tid bit.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs/654/meth.htm

Take care and lock your doors.

and I won’t argue that any nice nieghbor hood can’t go bad.

and I realize that CV has many nice places to live. I love the “hill” area by H street but would never buy a home there unless my childern were already out of school.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl]Having lived in the Chula Vista area since 1986, I’ve never heard of the “1%’ers.” Guess I must have lived a “sheltered existence” here in the middle of the “gang-infested ghetto,” lol.

FWIW, Piggs, I don’t have iron grates on my windows, don’t own a gun and never owned a security system. And I have no plans to acquire any of these things![/quote]

1%’ers are self proclaimed outlaw bikers. The are the 1% of society that does not live by “the rules”.

Locally we have Hells Angles, Mongols, and various other groups.

And yeah… They hang in Chula Vista… Where do you think they would hang? La Jolla?

PSA by CE[/quote]

I would think Poway, Lakeside, Ramona, Campo, Boulevard and Dulzura, where they have historically “hung out.” Anyone have any idea where these so-called “outlaw bikers” hang out in Chula Vista? Could it be in 91911?? It could be said that 91910 and 91911 are almost completely different countries from one another. I’ve never seen them.[/quote]

Sure they hang out there too but you stated that you never seen them and e.g they must not be there.

I have some dealings with the Chula Vista PD. Its part of my job to provided data services to them so I get the local scoop on the dirt every once and awhile so I no a little more about that area then others. Not trying to pick on CV I just know more about it.

But if you have any doubts read this juice little tid bit.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs/654/meth.htm

Take care and lock your doors.

and I won’t argue that any nice nieghbor hood can’t go bad.

and I realize that CV has many nice places to live. I love the “hill” area by H street but would never buy a home there unless my childern were already out of school.

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl]Having lived in the Chula Vista area since 1986, I’ve never heard of the “1%’ers.” Guess I must have lived a “sheltered existence” here in the middle of the “gang-infested ghetto,” lol.

FWIW, Piggs, I don’t have iron grates on my windows, don’t own a gun and never owned a security system. And I have no plans to acquire any of these things![/quote]

1%’ers are self proclaimed outlaw bikers. The are the 1% of society that does not live by “the rules”.

Locally we have Hells Angles, Mongols, and various other groups.

And yeah… They hang in Chula Vista… Where do you think they would hang? La Jolla?

PSA by CE[/quote]

I would think Poway, Lakeside, Ramona, Campo, Boulevard and Dulzura, where they have historically “hung out.” Anyone have any idea where these so-called “outlaw bikers” hang out in Chula Vista? Could it be in 91911?? It could be said that 91910 and 91911 are almost completely different countries from one another. I’ve never seen them.[/quote]

Sure they hang out there too but you stated that you never seen them and e.g they must not be there.

I have some dealings with the Chula Vista PD. Its part of my job to provided data services to them so I get the local scoop on the dirt every once and awhile so I no a little more about that area then others. Not trying to pick on CV I just know more about it.

But if you have any doubts read this juice little tid bit.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs/654/meth.htm

Take care and lock your doors.

and I won’t argue that any nice nieghbor hood can’t go bad.

and I realize that CV has many nice places to live. I love the “hill” area by H street but would never buy a home there unless my childern were already out of school.

CE

[bearishgurl]

[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl]Having lived in the Chula Vista area since 1986, I’ve never heard of the “1%’ers.” Guess I must have lived a “sheltered existence” here in the middle of the “gang-infested ghetto,” lol.

FWIW, Piggs, I don’t have iron grates on my windows, don’t own a gun and never owned a security system. And I have no plans to acquire any of these things![/quote]

1%’ers are self proclaimed outlaw bikers. The are the 1% of society that does not live by “the rules”.

Locally we have Hells Angles, Mongols, and various other groups.

And yeah… They hang in Chula Vista… Where do you think they would hang? La Jolla?

PSA by CE[/quote]

I would think Poway, Lakeside, Ramona, Campo, Boulevard and Dulzura, where they have historically “hung out.” Anyone have any idea where these so-called “outlaw bikers” hang out in Chula Vista? Could it be in 91911?? It could be said that 91910 and 91911 are almost completely different countries from one another. I’ve never seen them.[/quote]

Sure they hang out there too but you stated that you never seen them and e.g they must not be there.

I have some dealings with the Chula Vista PD. Its part of my job to provided data services to them so I get the local scoop on the dirt every once and awhile so I no a little more about that area then others. Not trying to pick on CV I just know more about it.

But if you have any doubts read this juice little tid bit.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs/654/meth.htm

Take care and lock your doors.

and I won’t argue that any nice nieghbor hood can’t go bad.

and I realize that CV has many nice places to live. I love the “hill” area by H street but would never buy a home there unless my childern were already out of school.

CE[/quote]

CE, your article is dated 2000 (11 years ago).

. . . The primary retail distributors of methamphetamine in the district are Mexican criminals and Mexican-American criminal groups. Local independent dealers, street gangs, Caucasians, and biker gangs also distribute the drug. The Chula Vista Police Department states that Mexicans, as well as Caucasians and biker gangs, distribute methamphetamine in its area. DEA reports that the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club is establishing a chapter in Tijuana; however, a working relationship between the Hells Angels and Mexican DTOs has not been confirmed.

According to the San Diego Sheriff’s Department, the dominant distributors of methamphetamine in San Diego County are Caucasians with connections to the Arellano-Felix Organization. The San Diego Police Department describes a layered drug distribution network whereby Mexican DTOs deal with middlemen who then work with known dealers–from gangs to individuals–who handle street sales. Most of the drug dealing at the street level is polydrug. . .

(emphasis added)

The article also mentions several areas in North County which were infested with gang/meth mfg/sales activity and also areas in Imperial County and Logan Heights (SD). If the “Hells Angels” are currently established in Tijuana, BC, that is NOT Chula Vista.

Also, Chula Vista is a very diverse City of over 250K residents living in five zip codes. Each zip code/micro-area has different demographics from the other, sometimes VASTLY different. If something is happening in Chula Vista that I’m not aware of, it could be going on up to 12+ miles away from me, in an area I don’t frequent. You can’t lump “Chula Vista” all into one category, just like you can’t lump San Diego or Escondido into one category. They’re too big.

Yes, the “Hill”top area you are referring to is one of the better neighborhoods in Chula Vista to raise a family in. And Hilltop HS has an well-known IB program and also participates in a nationwide Academic Decathalon every year. It is a very good school (as well as its feeder schools) and I would highly recommend raising children in those (mostly larger) well-built homes situated on spacious lots :=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl]Having lived in the Chula Vista area since 1986, I’ve never heard of the “1%’ers.” Guess I must have lived a “sheltered existence” here in the middle of the “gang-infested ghetto,” lol.

FWIW, Piggs, I don’t have iron grates on my windows, don’t own a gun and never owned a security system. And I have no plans to acquire any of these things![/quote]

1%’ers are self proclaimed outlaw bikers. The are the 1% of society that does not live by “the rules”.

Locally we have Hells Angles, Mongols, and various other groups.

And yeah… They hang in Chula Vista… Where do you think they would hang? La Jolla?

PSA by CE[/quote]

I would think Poway, Lakeside, Ramona, Campo, Boulevard and Dulzura, where they have historically “hung out.” Anyone have any idea where these so-called “outlaw bikers” hang out in Chula Vista? Could it be in 91911?? It could be said that 91910 and 91911 are almost completely different countries from one another. I’ve never seen them.[/quote]

Sure they hang out there too but you stated that you never seen them and e.g they must not be there.

I have some dealings with the Chula Vista PD. Its part of my job to provided data services to them so I get the local scoop on the dirt every once and awhile so I no a little more about that area then others. Not trying to pick on CV I just know more about it.

But if you have any doubts read this juice little tid bit.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs/654/meth.htm

Take care and lock your doors.

and I won’t argue that any nice nieghbor hood can’t go bad.

and I realize that CV has many nice places to live. I love the “hill” area by H street but would never buy a home there unless my childern were already out of school.

CE[/quote]

CE, your article is dated 2000 (11 years ago).

. . . The primary retail distributors of methamphetamine in the district are Mexican criminals and Mexican-American criminal groups. Local independent dealers, street gangs, Caucasians, and biker gangs also distribute the drug. The Chula Vista Police Department states that Mexicans, as well as Caucasians and biker gangs, distribute methamphetamine in its area. DEA reports that the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club is establishing a chapter in Tijuana; however, a working relationship between the Hells Angels and Mexican DTOs has not been confirmed.

According to the San Diego Sheriff’s Department, the dominant distributors of methamphetamine in San Diego County are Caucasians with connections to the Arellano-Felix Organization. The San Diego Police Department describes a layered drug distribution network whereby Mexican DTOs deal with middlemen who then work with known dealers–from gangs to individuals–who handle street sales. Most of the drug dealing at the street level is polydrug. . .

(emphasis added)

The article also mentions several areas in North County which were infested with gang/meth mfg/sales activity and also areas in Imperial County and Logan Heights (SD). If the “Hells Angels” are currently established in Tijuana, BC, that is NOT Chula Vista.

Also, Chula Vista is a very diverse City of over 250K residents living in five zip codes. Each zip code/micro-area has different demographics from the other, sometimes VASTLY different. If something is happening in Chula Vista that I’m not aware of, it could be going on up to 12+ miles away from me, in an area I don’t frequent. You can’t lump “Chula Vista” all into one category, just like you can’t lump San Diego or Escondido into one category. They’re too big.

Yes, the “Hill”top area you are referring to is one of the better neighborhoods in Chula Vista to raise a family in. And Hilltop HS has an well-known IB program and also participates in a nationwide Academic Decathalon every year. It is a very good school (as well as its feeder schools) and I would highly recommend raising children in those (mostly larger) well-built homes situated on spacious lots :=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl]Having lived in the Chula Vista area since 1986, I’ve never heard of the “1%’ers.” Guess I must have lived a “sheltered existence” here in the middle of the “gang-infested ghetto,” lol.

FWIW, Piggs, I don’t have iron grates on my windows, don’t own a gun and never owned a security system. And I have no plans to acquire any of these things![/quote]

1%’ers are self proclaimed outlaw bikers. The are the 1% of society that does not live by “the rules”.

Locally we have Hells Angles, Mongols, and various other groups.

And yeah… They hang in Chula Vista… Where do you think they would hang? La Jolla?

PSA by CE[/quote]

I would think Poway, Lakeside, Ramona, Campo, Boulevard and Dulzura, where they have historically “hung out.” Anyone have any idea where these so-called “outlaw bikers” hang out in Chula Vista? Could it be in 91911?? It could be said that 91910 and 91911 are almost completely different countries from one another. I’ve never seen them.[/quote]

Sure they hang out there too but you stated that you never seen them and e.g they must not be there.

I have some dealings with the Chula Vista PD. Its part of my job to provided data services to them so I get the local scoop on the dirt every once and awhile so I no a little more about that area then others. Not trying to pick on CV I just know more about it.

But if you have any doubts read this juice little tid bit.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs/654/meth.htm

Take care and lock your doors.

and I won’t argue that any nice nieghbor hood can’t go bad.

and I realize that CV has many nice places to live. I love the “hill” area by H street but would never buy a home there unless my childern were already out of school.

CE[/quote]

CE, your article is dated 2000 (11 years ago).

. . . The primary retail distributors of methamphetamine in the district are Mexican criminals and Mexican-American criminal groups. Local independent dealers, street gangs, Caucasians, and biker gangs also distribute the drug. The Chula Vista Police Department states that Mexicans, as well as Caucasians and biker gangs, distribute methamphetamine in its area. DEA reports that the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club is establishing a chapter in Tijuana; however, a working relationship between the Hells Angels and Mexican DTOs has not been confirmed.

According to the San Diego Sheriff’s Department, the dominant distributors of methamphetamine in San Diego County are Caucasians with connections to the Arellano-Felix Organization. The San Diego Police Department describes a layered drug distribution network whereby Mexican DTOs deal with middlemen who then work with known dealers–from gangs to individuals–who handle street sales. Most of the drug dealing at the street level is polydrug. . .

(emphasis added)

The article also mentions several areas in North County which were infested with gang/meth mfg/sales activity and also areas in Imperial County and Logan Heights (SD). If the “Hells Angels” are currently established in Tijuana, BC, that is NOT Chula Vista.

Also, Chula Vista is a very diverse City of over 250K residents living in five zip codes. Each zip code/micro-area has different demographics from the other, sometimes VASTLY different. If something is happening in Chula Vista that I’m not aware of, it could be going on up to 12+ miles away from me, in an area I don’t frequent. You can’t lump “Chula Vista” all into one category, just like you can’t lump San Diego or Escondido into one category. They’re too big.

Yes, the “Hill”top area you are referring to is one of the better neighborhoods in Chula Vista to raise a family in. And Hilltop HS has an well-known IB program and also participates in a nationwide Academic Decathalon every year. It is a very good school (as well as its feeder schools) and I would highly recommend raising children in those (mostly larger) well-built homes situated on spacious lots :=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl]Having lived in the Chula Vista area since 1986, I’ve never heard of the “1%’ers.” Guess I must have lived a “sheltered existence” here in the middle of the “gang-infested ghetto,” lol.

FWIW, Piggs, I don’t have iron grates on my windows, don’t own a gun and never owned a security system. And I have no plans to acquire any of these things![/quote]

1%’ers are self proclaimed outlaw bikers. The are the 1% of society that does not live by “the rules”.

Locally we have Hells Angles, Mongols, and various other groups.

And yeah… They hang in Chula Vista… Where do you think they would hang? La Jolla?

PSA by CE[/quote]

I would think Poway, Lakeside, Ramona, Campo, Boulevard and Dulzura, where they have historically “hung out.” Anyone have any idea where these so-called “outlaw bikers” hang out in Chula Vista? Could it be in 91911?? It could be said that 91910 and 91911 are almost completely different countries from one another. I’ve never seen them.[/quote]

Sure they hang out there too but you stated that you never seen them and e.g they must not be there.

I have some dealings with the Chula Vista PD. Its part of my job to provided data services to them so I get the local scoop on the dirt every once and awhile so I no a little more about that area then others. Not trying to pick on CV I just know more about it.

But if you have any doubts read this juice little tid bit.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs/654/meth.htm

Take care and lock your doors.

and I won’t argue that any nice nieghbor hood can’t go bad.

and I realize that CV has many nice places to live. I love the “hill” area by H street but would never buy a home there unless my childern were already out of school.

CE[/quote]

CE, your article is dated 2000 (11 years ago).

. . . The primary retail distributors of methamphetamine in the district are Mexican criminals and Mexican-American criminal groups. Local independent dealers, street gangs, Caucasians, and biker gangs also distribute the drug. The Chula Vista Police Department states that Mexicans, as well as Caucasians and biker gangs, distribute methamphetamine in its area. DEA reports that the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club is establishing a chapter in Tijuana; however, a working relationship between the Hells Angels and Mexican DTOs has not been confirmed.

According to the San Diego Sheriff’s Department, the dominant distributors of methamphetamine in San Diego County are Caucasians with connections to the Arellano-Felix Organization. The San Diego Police Department describes a layered drug distribution network whereby Mexican DTOs deal with middlemen who then work with known dealers–from gangs to individuals–who handle street sales. Most of the drug dealing at the street level is polydrug. . .

(emphasis added)

The article also mentions several areas in North County which were infested with gang/meth mfg/sales activity and also areas in Imperial County and Logan Heights (SD). If the “Hells Angels” are currently established in Tijuana, BC, that is NOT Chula Vista.

Also, Chula Vista is a very diverse City of over 250K residents living in five zip codes. Each zip code/micro-area has different demographics from the other, sometimes VASTLY different. If something is happening in Chula Vista that I’m not aware of, it could be going on up to 12+ miles away from me, in an area I don’t frequent. You can’t lump “Chula Vista” all into one category, just like you can’t lump San Diego or Escondido into one category. They’re too big.

Yes, the “Hill”top area you are referring to is one of the better neighborhoods in Chula Vista to raise a family in. And Hilltop HS has an well-known IB program and also participates in a nationwide Academic Decathalon every year. It is a very good school (as well as its feeder schools) and I would highly recommend raising children in those (mostly larger) well-built homes situated on spacious lots :=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=bearishgurl]Having lived in the Chula Vista area since 1986, I’ve never heard of the “1%’ers.” Guess I must have lived a “sheltered existence” here in the middle of the “gang-infested ghetto,” lol.

FWIW, Piggs, I don’t have iron grates on my windows, don’t own a gun and never owned a security system. And I have no plans to acquire any of these things![/quote]

1%’ers are self proclaimed outlaw bikers. The are the 1% of society that does not live by “the rules”.

Locally we have Hells Angles, Mongols, and various other groups.

And yeah… They hang in Chula Vista… Where do you think they would hang? La Jolla?

PSA by CE[/quote]

I would think Poway, Lakeside, Ramona, Campo, Boulevard and Dulzura, where they have historically “hung out.” Anyone have any idea where these so-called “outlaw bikers” hang out in Chula Vista? Could it be in 91911?? It could be said that 91910 and 91911 are almost completely different countries from one another. I’ve never seen them.[/quote]

Sure they hang out there too but you stated that you never seen them and e.g they must not be there.

I have some dealings with the Chula Vista PD. Its part of my job to provided data services to them so I get the local scoop on the dirt every once and awhile so I no a little more about that area then others. Not trying to pick on CV I just know more about it.

But if you have any doubts read this juice little tid bit.

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs/654/meth.htm

Take care and lock your doors.

and I won’t argue that any nice nieghbor hood can’t go bad.

and I realize that CV has many nice places to live. I love the “hill” area by H street but would never buy a home there unless my childern were already out of school.

CE[/quote]

CE, your article is dated 2000 (11 years ago).

. . . The primary retail distributors of methamphetamine in the district are Mexican criminals and Mexican-American criminal groups. Local independent dealers, street gangs, Caucasians, and biker gangs also distribute the drug. The Chula Vista Police Department states that Mexicans, as well as Caucasians and biker gangs, distribute methamphetamine in its area. DEA reports that the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club is establishing a chapter in Tijuana; however, a working relationship between the Hells Angels and Mexican DTOs has not been confirmed.

According to the San Diego Sheriff’s Department, the dominant distributors of methamphetamine in San Diego County are Caucasians with connections to the Arellano-Felix Organization. The San Diego Police Department describes a layered drug distribution network whereby Mexican DTOs deal with middlemen who then work with known dealers–from gangs to individuals–who handle street sales. Most of the drug dealing at the street level is polydrug. . .

(emphasis added)

The article also mentions several areas in North County which were infested with gang/meth mfg/sales activity and also areas in Imperial County and Logan Heights (SD). If the “Hells Angels” are currently established in Tijuana, BC, that is NOT Chula Vista.

Also, Chula Vista is a very diverse City of over 250K residents living in five zip codes. Each zip code/micro-area has different demographics from the other, sometimes VASTLY different. If something is happening in Chula Vista that I’m not aware of, it could be going on up to 12+ miles away from me, in an area I don’t frequent. You can’t lump “Chula Vista” all into one category, just like you can’t lump San Diego or Escondido into one category. They’re too big.

Yes, the “Hill”top area you are referring to is one of the better neighborhoods in Chula Vista to raise a family in. And Hilltop HS has an well-known IB program and also participates in a nationwide Academic Decathalon every year. It is a very good school (as well as its feeder schools) and I would highly recommend raising children in those (mostly larger) well-built homes situated on spacious lots :=]

[CA renter]

[quote=captcha]Did you provision for illegally owned firearm? Or do Black people use eye gouging and testicular kicks to kill each other in DC? Once the authorities in Chicago and D.C. see this analysis they’ll solve their problem by arming everyone.

Ex-scaredy asked if a gun in every hand would make everyone feel safer. I say it might make people feel safe, but it will not truly make them safe. Instead, disturbed people (and apparently big bad black dudes not involved with NFL or NBA) will have a tool to project their disturbance onto soccer moms with three kids on the back seat and a gun in the attic safe.

I totally get TG’s “that’s the way I like it and if you don’t like that it’s your problem, not mine” position. But I don’t think adults need to pretend that somehow their toys are what’s keeping them safe.[/quote]

These “disturbed people” will always have tools at their disposal: knives, guns, rope, blunt objects, their hands or feet, etc. The most “disturbed” murderers (especially serial killers) tend to prefer “close-combat tools” rather than impersonal guns.

If you hear someone breaking into your house, would you rather have a bat or a gun in your hand? Guns are “the great equalizer,” and can afford women (and men who are not physical fighters) the only chance — however slight — of subduing their attackers.

Crime and murder have been with us for all of human history. Banning guns does not deter crime, and it certainly does not deter people from killing. Creating a peaceful, egalitarian society, with a sufficient social safety net is the best defense against violent criminals, IMHO; yet even in this type of society, I would prefer that people had the means to defend themselves against those who are, nonetheless, determined to be violent.

[CA renter]

[quote=captcha]Did you provision for illegally owned firearm? Or do Black people use eye gouging and testicular kicks to kill each other in DC? Once the authorities in Chicago and D.C. see this analysis they’ll solve their problem by arming everyone.

Ex-scaredy asked if a gun in every hand would make everyone feel safer. I say it might make people feel safe, but it will not truly make them safe. Instead, disturbed people (and apparently big bad black dudes not involved with NFL or NBA) will have a tool to project their disturbance onto soccer moms with three kids on the back seat and a gun in the attic safe.

I totally get TG’s “that’s the way I like it and if you don’t like that it’s your problem, not mine” position. But I don’t think adults need to pretend that somehow their toys are what’s keeping them safe.[/quote]

These “disturbed people” will always have tools at their disposal: knives, guns, rope, blunt objects, their hands or feet, etc. The most “disturbed” murderers (especially serial killers) tend to prefer “close-combat tools” rather than impersonal guns.

If you hear someone breaking into your house, would you rather have a bat or a gun in your hand? Guns are “the great equalizer,” and can afford women (and men who are not physical fighters) the only chance — however slight — of subduing their attackers.

Crime and murder have been with us for all of human history. Banning guns does not deter crime, and it certainly does not deter people from killing. Creating a peaceful, egalitarian society, with a sufficient social safety net is the best defense against violent criminals, IMHO; yet even in this type of society, I would prefer that people had the means to defend themselves against those who are, nonetheless, determined to be violent.

[CA renter]

[quote=captcha]Did you provision for illegally owned firearm? Or do Black people use eye gouging and testicular kicks to kill each other in DC? Once the authorities in Chicago and D.C. see this analysis they’ll solve their problem by arming everyone.

Ex-scaredy asked if a gun in every hand would make everyone feel safer. I say it might make people feel safe, but it will not truly make them safe. Instead, disturbed people (and apparently big bad black dudes not involved with NFL or NBA) will have a tool to project their disturbance onto soccer moms with three kids on the back seat and a gun in the attic safe.

I totally get TG’s “that’s the way I like it and if you don’t like that it’s your problem, not mine” position. But I don’t think adults need to pretend that somehow their toys are what’s keeping them safe.[/quote]

These “disturbed people” will always have tools at their disposal: knives, guns, rope, blunt objects, their hands or feet, etc. The most “disturbed” murderers (especially serial killers) tend to prefer “close-combat tools” rather than impersonal guns.

If you hear someone breaking into your house, would you rather have a bat or a gun in your hand? Guns are “the great equalizer,” and can afford women (and men who are not physical fighters) the only chance — however slight — of subduing their attackers.

Crime and murder have been with us for all of human history. Banning guns does not deter crime, and it certainly does not deter people from killing. Creating a peaceful, egalitarian society, with a sufficient social safety net is the best defense against violent criminals, IMHO; yet even in this type of society, I would prefer that people had the means to defend themselves against those who are, nonetheless, determined to be violent.

[CA renter]

[quote=captcha]Did you provision for illegally owned firearm? Or do Black people use eye gouging and testicular kicks to kill each other in DC? Once the authorities in Chicago and D.C. see this analysis they’ll solve their problem by arming everyone.

Ex-scaredy asked if a gun in every hand would make everyone feel safer. I say it might make people feel safe, but it will not truly make them safe. Instead, disturbed people (and apparently big bad black dudes not involved with NFL or NBA) will have a tool to project their disturbance onto soccer moms with three kids on the back seat and a gun in the attic safe.

I totally get TG’s “that’s the way I like it and if you don’t like that it’s your problem, not mine” position. But I don’t think adults need to pretend that somehow their toys are what’s keeping them safe.[/quote]

These “disturbed people” will always have tools at their disposal: knives, guns, rope, blunt objects, their hands or feet, etc. The most “disturbed” murderers (especially serial killers) tend to prefer “close-combat tools” rather than impersonal guns.

If you hear someone breaking into your house, would you rather have a bat or a gun in your hand? Guns are “the great equalizer,” and can afford women (and men who are not physical fighters) the only chance — however slight — of subduing their attackers.

Crime and murder have been with us for all of human history. Banning guns does not deter crime, and it certainly does not deter people from killing. Creating a peaceful, egalitarian society, with a sufficient social safety net is the best defense against violent criminals, IMHO; yet even in this type of society, I would prefer that people had the means to defend themselves against those who are, nonetheless, determined to be violent.

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