OT: Working Visas are on the chopping block

[Coronita]

Speaking of pay people more, get more work done….It works, up to a point…As long as the company can afford it. Google can get away with this, up to a point of their profitability…And only people highly specialized and talented. Simple supply and demand. The majority of the people in the workforce, are not really special, including even me. And the market price will adjust for that. Same goes for garlic pickers.

One Reason Staffers Quit Google’s Car Project? The Company Paid Them So Much
‘F-you money’ awarded to veteran team members boosted parent Alphabet’s R&D costs, prompting comment from the company’s CFO

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-13/one-reason-staffers-quit-google-s-car-project-the-company-paid-them-so-much

Lol… This part was a gem…

The unorthodox system started in 2010, soon after Google unveiled its first self-driving vehicle. It was constructed to tie employees’ fortunes to the performance of the project, rather than Google’s advertising money machine. In addition to cash salaries, some staffers were given bonuses and equity in the business and these awards were set aside in a special entity. After several years, Google applied a multiplier to the value of the awards and paid some or all of it out. The multiplier was based on periodic valuations of the division, the people said.

The precise metrics that the division was measured by– and caused the bonuses to balloon– are not known. But by 2015, the Google car project had come a long way: Google’s vehicles had logged more than one million autonomous miles; car companies including Toyota Motor Corp. and Tesla Inc. announced their own plans to develop autonomous systems; and analysts predicted the technology would transform the auto industry.

A large multiplier was applied to the compensation packages in late 2015, resulting in multi-million dollar payments in some cases, according to the people familiar with the situation. One member of the team had a multiplier of 16 applied to bonuses and equity amassed over four years, one of the people said. They asked not to be identified talking about private matters.

[Anonymous]

[quote=CA renter]
Pri, how about paying enough so that the people who picked your garlic are able to afford a decent place to live, have decent healthcare, and earn enough money to feed their families and pay for their basic living expenses?[/quote]

Who needs to be “paying enough?”

Me, you, farmers, wholesalers, grocery stores?

You conveniently left that part out because you have no idea who would just “pay enough” or what would influence their decisions on pricing.

You don’t have a clue about a solution, nor have you even described what problem you are trying to solve (although it’s pretty clear to anyone reading this you want ‘dem Mexicans out of your California.)

Rant about everything because it’s everybody else’s fault!

[CA renter]

[quote=harvey][quote=CA renter]
Pri, how about paying enough so that the people who picked your garlic are able to afford a decent place to live, have decent healthcare, and earn enough money to feed their families and pay for their basic living expenses?[/quote]

Who needs to be “paying enough?”

Me, you, farmers, wholesalers, grocery stores?

You conveniently left that part out because you have no idea who would just “pay enough” or what would influence their decisions on pricing.

You don’t have a clue about a solution, nor have you even described what problem you are trying to solve (although it’s pretty clear to anyone reading this you want ‘dem Mexicans out of your California.)

Rant about everything because it’s everybody else’s fault![/quote]

Try improving your reading comprehension skills for a change. I see you still haven’t made any attempts to do so.

BTW, I didn’t have time to respond to your asinine assertions on the “counterintelligence” thread, but if you want me to prove to you, once again, how painfully ignorant and uninformed you are about yet another topic, keep going. Your alter ego’s posts are are equally uninformed and ripe for ripping apart, too, which is one of the ways I know it’s you.

[Anonymous]

[quote=CA renter]Your alter ego’s posts are are equally uninformed and ripe for ripping apart, too, which is one of the ways I know it’s you.[/quote]

W T F ?

[FlyerInHi]

The very telling part is that work visas are for people who are “vetted” well qualified to do their jobs, not unauthorized immigrants. It’s always anti-immigration vs openness.

I was watching Trudeau on TV with my friend. Canada welcomed 40,000 Syrian refugees. I mentioned that Canada is a big country so they could easily grow to 200 million population within 100 years and become much stronger and influential. My friend said “well the natives don’t want that.” She’s right, people are conservative, they’re afraid of change.

I personally think change is interesting and should be embraced.
Imagine living through the industrial revolution in NYC, or 20th Century Shanghai.

[spdrun]

The ideal situation would be a two-child limit per household in as many countries as possible. Not enforced criminally, but financially. Generous tax breaks for the first two kidlets, a slight tax break for #3, no more breaks for #4 and up.

Free birth control and education on birth control for all. Send every household a 365-pack of rubbers every year.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]The ideal situation would be a two-child limit per household in as many countries as possible. Not enforced criminally, but financially. Generous tax breaks for the first two kidlets, a slight tax break for #3, no more breaks for #4 and up.

Free birth control and education on birth control for all. Send every household a 365-pack of rubbers every year.[/quote]

I agree with you on humanitairian grounds.

Japan is like that. The small towns are dying however they are still building in Tokyo. I believe you can buy a house in small town Japan for $60k which would be cheaper than in growing Cambodia or El Salvador.

What the America First people fail to realize is that we cannot have a global military and global reach without strong immigration. Their goals are incompatible. Maybe that’s why they are confused with strong military with global intervention, and isolationism.

Even without world population growth, people’s instincts are to abandon stagnant areas and move to growing areas. Growth is critical in economics and geopolitics.

[matula]

I agree with your post. Companies became greedy and wanted cheap labor and using the excuse that they can’t find enough skilled American workers. Once they were able to bring in cheap labor, job shortages starts happening and local workers feel compelled to work way more than 8 hours a day to keep their jobs.

[spdrun]

Simple solution: enforce the 40-hour week for most if not all workers under $200,000/yr. Require paying 3x overtime for anything above 40 hr/wk.

Fines should be strict and harsh, the kind that drive businesses out of business. I’d start with a fine equal to the employee’s salary for 1st offense, and rising on up.

There’s nothing worse than theft of time — time is the one thing none of us has more of. It’s essentially slow homicide.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]Simple solution: enforce the 40-hour week for most if not all workers under $200,000/yr. Require paying 3x overtime for anything above 40 hr/wk.

Fines should be strict and harsh, the kind that drive businesses out of business. I’d start with a fine equal to the employee’s salary for 1st offense, and rising on up.

There’s nothing worse than theft of time — time is the one thing none of us has more of. It’s essentially slow homicide.[/quote]

Germany has very strick labor laws and with 2% of the population, they produce 10% of the exports. And they welcomed 1 million refugees last year.

The Trump people want a wall and less regulations. Some even want to eliminate the minimum wage. Of course they conveniently blame Mexicans. We see that on this thread.

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