OT: Welcome to South California, the 51st state…..

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LA Times had the same article on the 11th:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-south-california-20110711,0,2846870.story

“It’s a supremely ridiculous waste of everybody’s time,” said spokesman Gil Duran. “If you want to live in a Republican state with very conservative right-wing laws, then there’s a place called Arizona.

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[quote=briansd1]Orange County would be a blue county if it weren’t for the 1/2 million Vietnamese immigrants who are largely poor, on welfare, but vote Republican out of anti-communism.[/quote]

Hey Brian, can you back up that assertion about the O.C. Vietnamese-American community being largely on welfare?!?

I lived in Orange County for 16 years and I’ve met exactly one Vietnamese-American immigrant on welfare, and that was after losing his life’s savings in a failed business venture.

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[quote=briansd1]Orange County would be a blue county if it weren’t for the 1/2 million Vietnamese immigrants who are largely poor, on welfare, but vote Republican out of anti-communism.[/quote]

Hey Brian, can you back up that assertion about the O.C. Vietnamese-American community being largely on welfare?!?

I lived in Orange County for 16 years and I’ve met exactly one Vietnamese-American immigrant on welfare, and that was after losing his life’s savings in a failed business venture.

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[quote=briansd1]Orange County would be a blue county if it weren’t for the 1/2 million Vietnamese immigrants who are largely poor, on welfare, but vote Republican out of anti-communism.[/quote]

Hey Brian, can you back up that assertion about the O.C. Vietnamese-American community being largely on welfare?!?

I lived in Orange County for 16 years and I’ve met exactly one Vietnamese-American immigrant on welfare, and that was after losing his life’s savings in a failed business venture.

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[quote=briansd1]Orange County would be a blue county if it weren’t for the 1/2 million Vietnamese immigrants who are largely poor, on welfare, but vote Republican out of anti-communism.[/quote]

Hey Brian, can you back up that assertion about the O.C. Vietnamese-American community being largely on welfare?!?

I lived in Orange County for 16 years and I’ve met exactly one Vietnamese-American immigrant on welfare, and that was after losing his life’s savings in a failed business venture.

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[quote=briansd1]Orange County would be a blue county if it weren’t for the 1/2 million Vietnamese immigrants who are largely poor, on welfare, but vote Republican out of anti-communism.[/quote]

Hey Brian, can you back up that assertion about the O.C. Vietnamese-American community being largely on welfare?!?

I lived in Orange County for 16 years and I’ve met exactly one Vietnamese-American immigrant on welfare, and that was after losing his life’s savings in a failed business venture.

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For that matter can you back up the “1/2 million” figure? There are about that many Asian-American residents of Orange County inclusive of all nationalities, Vietnamese Americans being perhaps a plurality but not a majority.

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For that matter can you back up the “1/2 million” figure? There are about that many Asian-American residents of Orange County inclusive of all nationalities, Vietnamese Americans being perhaps a plurality but not a majority.

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For that matter can you back up the “1/2 million” figure? There are about that many Asian-American residents of Orange County inclusive of all nationalities, Vietnamese Americans being perhaps a plurality but not a majority.

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For that matter can you back up the “1/2 million” figure? There are about that many Asian-American residents of Orange County inclusive of all nationalities, Vietnamese Americans being perhaps a plurality but not a majority.

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For that matter can you back up the “1/2 million” figure? There are about that many Asian-American residents of Orange County inclusive of all nationalities, Vietnamese Americans being perhaps a plurality but not a majority.

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The use of services by ethnic group is pretty-well documented. People who work in social services would tell you that Vietnamese-Americans comprise a large portion of clients.

Here’s one report.
http://www.ochna.org/publications/documents/OCHNAVietnameseHealthReport_000.pdf

• The poverty rate for Vietnamese individuals and families is much higher than other race/ethnic groups; in 2008,
the poverty rate for Vietnamese people was 14.7%. The poverty rate for all individuals in Orange County was
9.9%.

http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html
The table below presents the percentages of welfare use by immigrants over the age of 65, both overall and from some of the larger immigrant groups, in 1990.

group % on welfare, California

all immigrants 45%
Chinese 55%
Filipino 39%
Iranian 26%
Korean 50%
Mexican 21%
Soviet Union 66%
Vietnamese 74%
all native-born 9%

If I get some time, I’ll find you some more recent information.

Unfortunately, the academic studies tend to lag by a decade or two are more data is available and academics take interest in studying the populations.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/Papers/Borjas-Trejo_1991.pdf

From Frum Forum, here’s an interesting article on Vietnamese voting for republicans.
http://www.frumforum.com/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters
http://hiphoprepublican.com/general/2010/08/24/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters/

Thankfully, as Vietnamese-Americans become more integrated, they vote more independently from their refugee parents.

Is the Republican Party taking Vietnamese voters for granted?

[briansd1]

The use of services by ethnic group is pretty-well documented. People who work in social services would tell you that Vietnamese-Americans comprise a large portion of clients.

Here’s one report.
http://www.ochna.org/publications/documents/OCHNAVietnameseHealthReport_000.pdf

• The poverty rate for Vietnamese individuals and families is much higher than other race/ethnic groups; in 2008,
the poverty rate for Vietnamese people was 14.7%. The poverty rate for all individuals in Orange County was
9.9%.

http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html
The table below presents the percentages of welfare use by immigrants over the age of 65, both overall and from some of the larger immigrant groups, in 1990.

group % on welfare, California

all immigrants 45%
Chinese 55%
Filipino 39%
Iranian 26%
Korean 50%
Mexican 21%
Soviet Union 66%
Vietnamese 74%
all native-born 9%

If I get some time, I’ll find you some more recent information.

Unfortunately, the academic studies tend to lag by a decade or two are more data is available and academics take interest in studying the populations.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/Papers/Borjas-Trejo_1991.pdf

From Frum Forum, here’s an interesting article on Vietnamese voting for republicans.
http://www.frumforum.com/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters
http://hiphoprepublican.com/general/2010/08/24/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters/

Thankfully, as Vietnamese-Americans become more integrated, they vote more independently from their refugee parents.

Is the Republican Party taking Vietnamese voters for granted?

[briansd1]

The use of services by ethnic group is pretty-well documented. People who work in social services would tell you that Vietnamese-Americans comprise a large portion of clients.

Here’s one report.
http://www.ochna.org/publications/documents/OCHNAVietnameseHealthReport_000.pdf

• The poverty rate for Vietnamese individuals and families is much higher than other race/ethnic groups; in 2008,
the poverty rate for Vietnamese people was 14.7%. The poverty rate for all individuals in Orange County was
9.9%.

http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html
The table below presents the percentages of welfare use by immigrants over the age of 65, both overall and from some of the larger immigrant groups, in 1990.

group % on welfare, California

all immigrants 45%
Chinese 55%
Filipino 39%
Iranian 26%
Korean 50%
Mexican 21%
Soviet Union 66%
Vietnamese 74%
all native-born 9%

If I get some time, I’ll find you some more recent information.

Unfortunately, the academic studies tend to lag by a decade or two are more data is available and academics take interest in studying the populations.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/Papers/Borjas-Trejo_1991.pdf

From Frum Forum, here’s an interesting article on Vietnamese voting for republicans.
http://www.frumforum.com/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters
http://hiphoprepublican.com/general/2010/08/24/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters/

Thankfully, as Vietnamese-Americans become more integrated, they vote more independently from their refugee parents.

Is the Republican Party taking Vietnamese voters for granted?

[briansd1]

The use of services by ethnic group is pretty-well documented. People who work in social services would tell you that Vietnamese-Americans comprise a large portion of clients.

Here’s one report.
http://www.ochna.org/publications/documents/OCHNAVietnameseHealthReport_000.pdf

• The poverty rate for Vietnamese individuals and families is much higher than other race/ethnic groups; in 2008,
the poverty rate for Vietnamese people was 14.7%. The poverty rate for all individuals in Orange County was
9.9%.

http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html
The table below presents the percentages of welfare use by immigrants over the age of 65, both overall and from some of the larger immigrant groups, in 1990.

group % on welfare, California

all immigrants 45%
Chinese 55%
Filipino 39%
Iranian 26%
Korean 50%
Mexican 21%
Soviet Union 66%
Vietnamese 74%
all native-born 9%

If I get some time, I’ll find you some more recent information.

Unfortunately, the academic studies tend to lag by a decade or two are more data is available and academics take interest in studying the populations.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/Papers/Borjas-Trejo_1991.pdf

From Frum Forum, here’s an interesting article on Vietnamese voting for republicans.
http://www.frumforum.com/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters
http://hiphoprepublican.com/general/2010/08/24/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters/

Thankfully, as Vietnamese-Americans become more integrated, they vote more independently from their refugee parents.

Is the Republican Party taking Vietnamese voters for granted?

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