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October 17, 2008 at 1:20 PM #289200October 17, 2008 at 1:20 PM #288855ArrayaParticipant
I think you hit that nail on the head, it’s pretty obvious now. I’d even take it a step further and say that Palin was possibley picked for her “divisive” qualities. There is nothing like a gun touting, bible thumper to scare the shit out of the progressive left and a polar opposite of Obama which scares the shit out of the GOP base. Never meant to win, just divide.
I think what also is obvious that came to light recently is the power Fed and Treasury wield over politicians. It’s just out in the open now.
TPTB have a lot on their plate right now. They are controlling the the collapse of the US the best they can. Iraq is fighting their security deal for permanent bases, the real reason for the invasion. Iran has stopped trading in dollars, Latin America is starting their own currency and banking system. Pakistan is pretty much up for grabs. Israel is threatening to nuke Iran. Oil production is falling through like a brick in “friendly” countries and concentrating the remaining reserves all in SE asia. Oh, what’s a rouge superpower to do?
Still, I wouldn’t totally discount Tricky-Dicky Cheney and his band neocon pranksters yet, they could still pull off a game changer. And I don’t mean that in a partisan way everybody thinks.
October 17, 2008 at 1:20 PM #289163ArrayaParticipantI think you hit that nail on the head, it’s pretty obvious now. I’d even take it a step further and say that Palin was possibley picked for her “divisive” qualities. There is nothing like a gun touting, bible thumper to scare the shit out of the progressive left and a polar opposite of Obama which scares the shit out of the GOP base. Never meant to win, just divide.
I think what also is obvious that came to light recently is the power Fed and Treasury wield over politicians. It’s just out in the open now.
TPTB have a lot on their plate right now. They are controlling the the collapse of the US the best they can. Iraq is fighting their security deal for permanent bases, the real reason for the invasion. Iran has stopped trading in dollars, Latin America is starting their own currency and banking system. Pakistan is pretty much up for grabs. Israel is threatening to nuke Iran. Oil production is falling through like a brick in “friendly” countries and concentrating the remaining reserves all in SE asia. Oh, what’s a rouge superpower to do?
Still, I wouldn’t totally discount Tricky-Dicky Cheney and his band neocon pranksters yet, they could still pull off a game changer. And I don’t mean that in a partisan way everybody thinks.
October 17, 2008 at 1:20 PM #289174ArrayaParticipantI think you hit that nail on the head, it’s pretty obvious now. I’d even take it a step further and say that Palin was possibley picked for her “divisive” qualities. There is nothing like a gun touting, bible thumper to scare the shit out of the progressive left and a polar opposite of Obama which scares the shit out of the GOP base. Never meant to win, just divide.
I think what also is obvious that came to light recently is the power Fed and Treasury wield over politicians. It’s just out in the open now.
TPTB have a lot on their plate right now. They are controlling the the collapse of the US the best they can. Iraq is fighting their security deal for permanent bases, the real reason for the invasion. Iran has stopped trading in dollars, Latin America is starting their own currency and banking system. Pakistan is pretty much up for grabs. Israel is threatening to nuke Iran. Oil production is falling through like a brick in “friendly” countries and concentrating the remaining reserves all in SE asia. Oh, what’s a rouge superpower to do?
Still, I wouldn’t totally discount Tricky-Dicky Cheney and his band neocon pranksters yet, they could still pull off a game changer. And I don’t mean that in a partisan way everybody thinks.
October 17, 2008 at 1:20 PM #289203ArrayaParticipantI think you hit that nail on the head, it’s pretty obvious now. I’d even take it a step further and say that Palin was possibley picked for her “divisive” qualities. There is nothing like a gun touting, bible thumper to scare the shit out of the progressive left and a polar opposite of Obama which scares the shit out of the GOP base. Never meant to win, just divide.
I think what also is obvious that came to light recently is the power Fed and Treasury wield over politicians. It’s just out in the open now.
TPTB have a lot on their plate right now. They are controlling the the collapse of the US the best they can. Iraq is fighting their security deal for permanent bases, the real reason for the invasion. Iran has stopped trading in dollars, Latin America is starting their own currency and banking system. Pakistan is pretty much up for grabs. Israel is threatening to nuke Iran. Oil production is falling through like a brick in “friendly” countries and concentrating the remaining reserves all in SE asia. Oh, what’s a rouge superpower to do?
Still, I wouldn’t totally discount Tricky-Dicky Cheney and his band neocon pranksters yet, they could still pull off a game changer. And I don’t mean that in a partisan way everybody thinks.
October 17, 2008 at 1:20 PM #289206ArrayaParticipantI think you hit that nail on the head, it’s pretty obvious now. I’d even take it a step further and say that Palin was possibley picked for her “divisive” qualities. There is nothing like a gun touting, bible thumper to scare the shit out of the progressive left and a polar opposite of Obama which scares the shit out of the GOP base. Never meant to win, just divide.
I think what also is obvious that came to light recently is the power Fed and Treasury wield over politicians. It’s just out in the open now.
TPTB have a lot on their plate right now. They are controlling the the collapse of the US the best they can. Iraq is fighting their security deal for permanent bases, the real reason for the invasion. Iran has stopped trading in dollars, Latin America is starting their own currency and banking system. Pakistan is pretty much up for grabs. Israel is threatening to nuke Iran. Oil production is falling through like a brick in “friendly” countries and concentrating the remaining reserves all in SE asia. Oh, what’s a rouge superpower to do?
Still, I wouldn’t totally discount Tricky-Dicky Cheney and his band neocon pranksters yet, they could still pull off a game changer. And I don’t mean that in a partisan way everybody thinks.
October 17, 2008 at 1:22 PM #288860DWCAPParticipant[quote=partypup]
The media positively loathes McCain and has done so from the very beginning, pre and post Palin. Just as it loathed Clinton. And yet, Obama can do no wrong.Obama is never lampooned on SNL (we never even got a Messiah joke), while McCain and Palin are skewered mercilessly. [/quote]
I dont know if I agree with alot of points in your statement, but I sure do agree with this one. Even my GF, who is an avid Obama fan BTW, has commented on how it is going too far. Maybe SNL is saving up for the next 4 years, and they can be merceless when they want to, but I get the feeling they are affraid that they will loose audience if they portray Obama as a joke. Many Obama fans have an almost religious Zelot ideology about him, and will stand no insult or preceved injury. I think that is the true reason why he isnt being hit. But that doesnt make the Palin bashing (the repeatedly part) right. Not durring the most hottly contested election in decades.
You forgot one in your rant though. It was all over the air that McCain needed to go on the offensive before the last debate. That he needed to call Obama out on a number of issues such as Campaign finance (obama flipped), oil drilling (we’ll LOOK into it isnt policy), health care (socialized health care usually sucks) and economic policy (spend/lower taxes/AND balance the budget????).
Then, after the debate was over, people were all over him for being aggressive, for ingaging Obama, and scoring some points like “If you wanted to run against Bush, you should have run 4 years ago.” They called McCain tight, and not prezidental like Obama. THE MAN HAD BOTH ARMS BROKEN AND WAS TOURTURED AS A POW! He can’t raise his arms, OFCOURSE he doesnt look pretty. But now we hold that against him, because that isnt “prezidental”. It doesnt fit the TV mentality of pretty people doing big things to have someone who is old and white and crippeled. Why do you think FDR hid the wheelchair?
So I dont know about the conspiracy thing. I dont think there is some evil society controlling everything and telling us what to think. Obama is just better at stirring the natural emotions in people. He makes you WANT to like him, because people naturally want to be around pretty, powerful people. His policies are no better/worse than McCains, and he has no real track record to back himself up with, but he has tapped into the black empowerment movement, and the deep seeded and well deserved hatred of Bush, and will become the next president of the USA.
October 17, 2008 at 1:22 PM #289168DWCAPParticipant[quote=partypup]
The media positively loathes McCain and has done so from the very beginning, pre and post Palin. Just as it loathed Clinton. And yet, Obama can do no wrong.Obama is never lampooned on SNL (we never even got a Messiah joke), while McCain and Palin are skewered mercilessly. [/quote]
I dont know if I agree with alot of points in your statement, but I sure do agree with this one. Even my GF, who is an avid Obama fan BTW, has commented on how it is going too far. Maybe SNL is saving up for the next 4 years, and they can be merceless when they want to, but I get the feeling they are affraid that they will loose audience if they portray Obama as a joke. Many Obama fans have an almost religious Zelot ideology about him, and will stand no insult or preceved injury. I think that is the true reason why he isnt being hit. But that doesnt make the Palin bashing (the repeatedly part) right. Not durring the most hottly contested election in decades.
You forgot one in your rant though. It was all over the air that McCain needed to go on the offensive before the last debate. That he needed to call Obama out on a number of issues such as Campaign finance (obama flipped), oil drilling (we’ll LOOK into it isnt policy), health care (socialized health care usually sucks) and economic policy (spend/lower taxes/AND balance the budget????).
Then, after the debate was over, people were all over him for being aggressive, for ingaging Obama, and scoring some points like “If you wanted to run against Bush, you should have run 4 years ago.” They called McCain tight, and not prezidental like Obama. THE MAN HAD BOTH ARMS BROKEN AND WAS TOURTURED AS A POW! He can’t raise his arms, OFCOURSE he doesnt look pretty. But now we hold that against him, because that isnt “prezidental”. It doesnt fit the TV mentality of pretty people doing big things to have someone who is old and white and crippeled. Why do you think FDR hid the wheelchair?
So I dont know about the conspiracy thing. I dont think there is some evil society controlling everything and telling us what to think. Obama is just better at stirring the natural emotions in people. He makes you WANT to like him, because people naturally want to be around pretty, powerful people. His policies are no better/worse than McCains, and he has no real track record to back himself up with, but he has tapped into the black empowerment movement, and the deep seeded and well deserved hatred of Bush, and will become the next president of the USA.
October 17, 2008 at 1:22 PM #289179DWCAPParticipant[quote=partypup]
The media positively loathes McCain and has done so from the very beginning, pre and post Palin. Just as it loathed Clinton. And yet, Obama can do no wrong.Obama is never lampooned on SNL (we never even got a Messiah joke), while McCain and Palin are skewered mercilessly. [/quote]
I dont know if I agree with alot of points in your statement, but I sure do agree with this one. Even my GF, who is an avid Obama fan BTW, has commented on how it is going too far. Maybe SNL is saving up for the next 4 years, and they can be merceless when they want to, but I get the feeling they are affraid that they will loose audience if they portray Obama as a joke. Many Obama fans have an almost religious Zelot ideology about him, and will stand no insult or preceved injury. I think that is the true reason why he isnt being hit. But that doesnt make the Palin bashing (the repeatedly part) right. Not durring the most hottly contested election in decades.
You forgot one in your rant though. It was all over the air that McCain needed to go on the offensive before the last debate. That he needed to call Obama out on a number of issues such as Campaign finance (obama flipped), oil drilling (we’ll LOOK into it isnt policy), health care (socialized health care usually sucks) and economic policy (spend/lower taxes/AND balance the budget????).
Then, after the debate was over, people were all over him for being aggressive, for ingaging Obama, and scoring some points like “If you wanted to run against Bush, you should have run 4 years ago.” They called McCain tight, and not prezidental like Obama. THE MAN HAD BOTH ARMS BROKEN AND WAS TOURTURED AS A POW! He can’t raise his arms, OFCOURSE he doesnt look pretty. But now we hold that against him, because that isnt “prezidental”. It doesnt fit the TV mentality of pretty people doing big things to have someone who is old and white and crippeled. Why do you think FDR hid the wheelchair?
So I dont know about the conspiracy thing. I dont think there is some evil society controlling everything and telling us what to think. Obama is just better at stirring the natural emotions in people. He makes you WANT to like him, because people naturally want to be around pretty, powerful people. His policies are no better/worse than McCains, and he has no real track record to back himself up with, but he has tapped into the black empowerment movement, and the deep seeded and well deserved hatred of Bush, and will become the next president of the USA.
October 17, 2008 at 1:22 PM #289208DWCAPParticipant[quote=partypup]
The media positively loathes McCain and has done so from the very beginning, pre and post Palin. Just as it loathed Clinton. And yet, Obama can do no wrong.Obama is never lampooned on SNL (we never even got a Messiah joke), while McCain and Palin are skewered mercilessly. [/quote]
I dont know if I agree with alot of points in your statement, but I sure do agree with this one. Even my GF, who is an avid Obama fan BTW, has commented on how it is going too far. Maybe SNL is saving up for the next 4 years, and they can be merceless when they want to, but I get the feeling they are affraid that they will loose audience if they portray Obama as a joke. Many Obama fans have an almost religious Zelot ideology about him, and will stand no insult or preceved injury. I think that is the true reason why he isnt being hit. But that doesnt make the Palin bashing (the repeatedly part) right. Not durring the most hottly contested election in decades.
You forgot one in your rant though. It was all over the air that McCain needed to go on the offensive before the last debate. That he needed to call Obama out on a number of issues such as Campaign finance (obama flipped), oil drilling (we’ll LOOK into it isnt policy), health care (socialized health care usually sucks) and economic policy (spend/lower taxes/AND balance the budget????).
Then, after the debate was over, people were all over him for being aggressive, for ingaging Obama, and scoring some points like “If you wanted to run against Bush, you should have run 4 years ago.” They called McCain tight, and not prezidental like Obama. THE MAN HAD BOTH ARMS BROKEN AND WAS TOURTURED AS A POW! He can’t raise his arms, OFCOURSE he doesnt look pretty. But now we hold that against him, because that isnt “prezidental”. It doesnt fit the TV mentality of pretty people doing big things to have someone who is old and white and crippeled. Why do you think FDR hid the wheelchair?
So I dont know about the conspiracy thing. I dont think there is some evil society controlling everything and telling us what to think. Obama is just better at stirring the natural emotions in people. He makes you WANT to like him, because people naturally want to be around pretty, powerful people. His policies are no better/worse than McCains, and he has no real track record to back himself up with, but he has tapped into the black empowerment movement, and the deep seeded and well deserved hatred of Bush, and will become the next president of the USA.
October 17, 2008 at 1:22 PM #289210DWCAPParticipant[quote=partypup]
The media positively loathes McCain and has done so from the very beginning, pre and post Palin. Just as it loathed Clinton. And yet, Obama can do no wrong.Obama is never lampooned on SNL (we never even got a Messiah joke), while McCain and Palin are skewered mercilessly. [/quote]
I dont know if I agree with alot of points in your statement, but I sure do agree with this one. Even my GF, who is an avid Obama fan BTW, has commented on how it is going too far. Maybe SNL is saving up for the next 4 years, and they can be merceless when they want to, but I get the feeling they are affraid that they will loose audience if they portray Obama as a joke. Many Obama fans have an almost religious Zelot ideology about him, and will stand no insult or preceved injury. I think that is the true reason why he isnt being hit. But that doesnt make the Palin bashing (the repeatedly part) right. Not durring the most hottly contested election in decades.
You forgot one in your rant though. It was all over the air that McCain needed to go on the offensive before the last debate. That he needed to call Obama out on a number of issues such as Campaign finance (obama flipped), oil drilling (we’ll LOOK into it isnt policy), health care (socialized health care usually sucks) and economic policy (spend/lower taxes/AND balance the budget????).
Then, after the debate was over, people were all over him for being aggressive, for ingaging Obama, and scoring some points like “If you wanted to run against Bush, you should have run 4 years ago.” They called McCain tight, and not prezidental like Obama. THE MAN HAD BOTH ARMS BROKEN AND WAS TOURTURED AS A POW! He can’t raise his arms, OFCOURSE he doesnt look pretty. But now we hold that against him, because that isnt “prezidental”. It doesnt fit the TV mentality of pretty people doing big things to have someone who is old and white and crippeled. Why do you think FDR hid the wheelchair?
So I dont know about the conspiracy thing. I dont think there is some evil society controlling everything and telling us what to think. Obama is just better at stirring the natural emotions in people. He makes you WANT to like him, because people naturally want to be around pretty, powerful people. His policies are no better/worse than McCains, and he has no real track record to back himself up with, but he has tapped into the black empowerment movement, and the deep seeded and well deserved hatred of Bush, and will become the next president of the USA.
October 17, 2008 at 1:29 PM #288865nostradamusParticipantI don’t think anyone in this country is organized enough to orchestrate such a conspiracy.
There’s plenty of anti-Obama media coverage out there, it really just depends on where you get your news. Obama certainly looks set to win, and the way McCain’s campaign is being handled does look like they are throwing the fight.
Except for in big cities this is the typical American voter. How else can one explain 2 heaping terms of Bush?
October 17, 2008 at 1:29 PM #289173nostradamusParticipantI don’t think anyone in this country is organized enough to orchestrate such a conspiracy.
There’s plenty of anti-Obama media coverage out there, it really just depends on where you get your news. Obama certainly looks set to win, and the way McCain’s campaign is being handled does look like they are throwing the fight.
Except for in big cities this is the typical American voter. How else can one explain 2 heaping terms of Bush?
October 17, 2008 at 1:29 PM #289184nostradamusParticipantI don’t think anyone in this country is organized enough to orchestrate such a conspiracy.
There’s plenty of anti-Obama media coverage out there, it really just depends on where you get your news. Obama certainly looks set to win, and the way McCain’s campaign is being handled does look like they are throwing the fight.
Except for in big cities this is the typical American voter. How else can one explain 2 heaping terms of Bush?
October 17, 2008 at 1:29 PM #289212nostradamusParticipantI don’t think anyone in this country is organized enough to orchestrate such a conspiracy.
There’s plenty of anti-Obama media coverage out there, it really just depends on where you get your news. Obama certainly looks set to win, and the way McCain’s campaign is being handled does look like they are throwing the fight.
Except for in big cities this is the typical American voter. How else can one explain 2 heaping terms of Bush?
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