OT. Obama or Mc Cain

[Dukehorn]

Bah, sorry work-time typos–mixing up repatriation with reparations.

I know our government paid out. I’m just wondering if NavyDoc agrees with the payout since his ancestors happened to get here 30 years or so before it happened (as opposed to slavery).

Anyway, the ancestor thread is pretty tortured logic. If you became a citizen of this country, you accept the responsiblities and duties that came with US citizenship.

Based on that “when I came over” logic, you should be saying that the Constitution doesn’t apply to you since it was written before your ancestors came over.

Or a variant (the “when I came into existence” scenario). That’s like saying since a child was born in 2006, he isn’t accountable for all the fed deficit that accrued beforehand.

Just tell me where you’re willing to draw the bright line test with this brilliant argument.

[Dukehorn]

Sort of like how Bush II was a hero compared to John Kerry.

Oh wait, one got a Silver Star and one got Quayled.

[Dukehorn]

Sort of like how Bush II was a hero compared to John Kerry.

Oh wait, one got a Silver Star and one got Quayled.

[Dukehorn]

Sort of like how Bush II was a hero compared to John Kerry.

Oh wait, one got a Silver Star and one got Quayled.

[Dukehorn]

Sort of like how Bush II was a hero compared to John Kerry.

Oh wait, one got a Silver Star and one got Quayled.

[Dukehorn]

Sort of like how Bush II was a hero compared to John Kerry.

Oh wait, one got a Silver Star and one got Quayled.

[SDEngineer]

I’m voting Obama, because I think McCain’s policies in general (with a few exceptions, such as his support for environmental policies and sound science) echo those of George Bush (though, of course, I think McCain would be far more competent in execution), and I think those policies in general are not good for the nation right now.

I’m also significantly concerned (as one other person above mentioned) that appointment of just one more justice who is very conservative could overturn a great many protections in the US for workers, minorities, and others. Frankly, I much prefer the courts to be on the “little guys” side rather than that of the corporations (who, I think, have enough advantages as is), so while I like a fairly balanced SOTC, I’d rather it to be tilted just slightly left of center, and as of right now, it is tilted slightly right of center with 4 very conservative justices (Alito, Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas), one justice who leans conservative (Kennedy), one centrist (Souter), and 3 liberals (Ginsberg, Breyer, Stevens), with the most likely upcoming replacements being of the liberal justices.

[SDEngineer]

I’m voting Obama, because I think McCain’s policies in general (with a few exceptions, such as his support for environmental policies and sound science) echo those of George Bush (though, of course, I think McCain would be far more competent in execution), and I think those policies in general are not good for the nation right now.

I’m also significantly concerned (as one other person above mentioned) that appointment of just one more justice who is very conservative could overturn a great many protections in the US for workers, minorities, and others. Frankly, I much prefer the courts to be on the “little guys” side rather than that of the corporations (who, I think, have enough advantages as is), so while I like a fairly balanced SOTC, I’d rather it to be tilted just slightly left of center, and as of right now, it is tilted slightly right of center with 4 very conservative justices (Alito, Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas), one justice who leans conservative (Kennedy), one centrist (Souter), and 3 liberals (Ginsberg, Breyer, Stevens), with the most likely upcoming replacements being of the liberal justices.

[SDEngineer]

I’m voting Obama, because I think McCain’s policies in general (with a few exceptions, such as his support for environmental policies and sound science) echo those of George Bush (though, of course, I think McCain would be far more competent in execution), and I think those policies in general are not good for the nation right now.

I’m also significantly concerned (as one other person above mentioned) that appointment of just one more justice who is very conservative could overturn a great many protections in the US for workers, minorities, and others. Frankly, I much prefer the courts to be on the “little guys” side rather than that of the corporations (who, I think, have enough advantages as is), so while I like a fairly balanced SOTC, I’d rather it to be tilted just slightly left of center, and as of right now, it is tilted slightly right of center with 4 very conservative justices (Alito, Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas), one justice who leans conservative (Kennedy), one centrist (Souter), and 3 liberals (Ginsberg, Breyer, Stevens), with the most likely upcoming replacements being of the liberal justices.

[SDEngineer]

I’m voting Obama, because I think McCain’s policies in general (with a few exceptions, such as his support for environmental policies and sound science) echo those of George Bush (though, of course, I think McCain would be far more competent in execution), and I think those policies in general are not good for the nation right now.

I’m also significantly concerned (as one other person above mentioned) that appointment of just one more justice who is very conservative could overturn a great many protections in the US for workers, minorities, and others. Frankly, I much prefer the courts to be on the “little guys” side rather than that of the corporations (who, I think, have enough advantages as is), so while I like a fairly balanced SOTC, I’d rather it to be tilted just slightly left of center, and as of right now, it is tilted slightly right of center with 4 very conservative justices (Alito, Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas), one justice who leans conservative (Kennedy), one centrist (Souter), and 3 liberals (Ginsberg, Breyer, Stevens), with the most likely upcoming replacements being of the liberal justices.

[SDEngineer]

I’m voting Obama, because I think McCain’s policies in general (with a few exceptions, such as his support for environmental policies and sound science) echo those of George Bush (though, of course, I think McCain would be far more competent in execution), and I think those policies in general are not good for the nation right now.

I’m also significantly concerned (as one other person above mentioned) that appointment of just one more justice who is very conservative could overturn a great many protections in the US for workers, minorities, and others. Frankly, I much prefer the courts to be on the “little guys” side rather than that of the corporations (who, I think, have enough advantages as is), so while I like a fairly balanced SOTC, I’d rather it to be tilted just slightly left of center, and as of right now, it is tilted slightly right of center with 4 very conservative justices (Alito, Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas), one justice who leans conservative (Kennedy), one centrist (Souter), and 3 liberals (Ginsberg, Breyer, Stevens), with the most likely upcoming replacements being of the liberal justices.

[Ex-SD]

NO slaves who were set free in 1865 when the Civil War ended are still alive today. The USA owes their relatives ZERO, NADA, Squat! I am a descendant of Cherokee Indians on both my mother and father’s sides of the family and I do not feel that I am owed a penny by the U.S. Government or anyone else.
How about we all live in the present, make our own bed, shape our own destiny, take responsibility for our actions and quit feeling guilty for the past actions of our ancestors? BTW: Do the descendants of the slaves who sold their own people to the slave traders and now live in the USA want to give some money to the descendants of the people that they sold? Nope, I didn’t think so.

As the Italians say: Basta!
(translation=enough)

[Ex-SD]

NO slaves who were set free in 1865 when the Civil War ended are still alive today. The USA owes their relatives ZERO, NADA, Squat! I am a descendant of Cherokee Indians on both my mother and father’s sides of the family and I do not feel that I am owed a penny by the U.S. Government or anyone else.
How about we all live in the present, make our own bed, shape our own destiny, take responsibility for our actions and quit feeling guilty for the past actions of our ancestors? BTW: Do the descendants of the slaves who sold their own people to the slave traders and now live in the USA want to give some money to the descendants of the people that they sold? Nope, I didn’t think so.

As the Italians say: Basta!
(translation=enough)

[Ex-SD]

NO slaves who were set free in 1865 when the Civil War ended are still alive today. The USA owes their relatives ZERO, NADA, Squat! I am a descendant of Cherokee Indians on both my mother and father’s sides of the family and I do not feel that I am owed a penny by the U.S. Government or anyone else.
How about we all live in the present, make our own bed, shape our own destiny, take responsibility for our actions and quit feeling guilty for the past actions of our ancestors? BTW: Do the descendants of the slaves who sold their own people to the slave traders and now live in the USA want to give some money to the descendants of the people that they sold? Nope, I didn’t think so.

As the Italians say: Basta!
(translation=enough)

[Ex-SD]

NO slaves who were set free in 1865 when the Civil War ended are still alive today. The USA owes their relatives ZERO, NADA, Squat! I am a descendant of Cherokee Indians on both my mother and father’s sides of the family and I do not feel that I am owed a penny by the U.S. Government or anyone else.
How about we all live in the present, make our own bed, shape our own destiny, take responsibility for our actions and quit feeling guilty for the past actions of our ancestors? BTW: Do the descendants of the slaves who sold their own people to the slave traders and now live in the USA want to give some money to the descendants of the people that they sold? Nope, I didn’t think so.

As the Italians say: Basta!
(translation=enough)

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