OT. Obama or Mc Cain

[Anonymous]

The problem with Ron Paul is he’s too weird. He wants to abolish birth control for one thing. It may have been abortion AND birth control. I’m not certain though.

SD Bear, you wouldn’t understand.

[Aecetia]

Regarding some of the remarks about Native Americans, I found this information in an article on American Indians and genocide:

“Finally, even if some episodes can be considered genocidal—that is, tending toward genocide—they certainly do not justify condemning an entire society. Guilt is personal, and for good reason the Genocide Convention provides that only ‘persons’ can be charged with the crime, probably even ruling out legal proceedings against governments. No less significant is that a massacre like Sand Creek was undertaken by a local volunteer militia and was not the expression of official U.S. policy. No regular U.S. Army unit was ever implicated in a similar atrocity. In the majority of actions, concludes Robert Utley, ‘the Army shot noncombatants incidentally and accidentally, not purposefully.’ As for the larger society, even if some elements in the white population, mainly in the West, at times advocated extermination, no official of the U.S. government ever seriously proposed it. Genocide was never American policy, nor was it the result of policy.”

Certainly I am not defending what happened to the indigenous peoples here any more than I can defend slavery. Both were deplorable, but guilt should be personal. A lot of blood was shed during the Civil War and reparations made to ancestors of slaves by the government would probably be handled as well as the rescue of stranded locals during Katrina. It would be a disaster in the making.

I really hope people vote for the candidate they feel is the most qualified and not because of the appearance or age of either of them. MLK’s remarks about a nation where people will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character is worth remembering. I am waiting to see who will be selected for Vice President, too. That should tell volumes about each man.

I apologize for the length of the post.

[Aecetia]

Regarding some of the remarks about Native Americans, I found this information in an article on American Indians and genocide:

“Finally, even if some episodes can be considered genocidal—that is, tending toward genocide—they certainly do not justify condemning an entire society. Guilt is personal, and for good reason the Genocide Convention provides that only ‘persons’ can be charged with the crime, probably even ruling out legal proceedings against governments. No less significant is that a massacre like Sand Creek was undertaken by a local volunteer militia and was not the expression of official U.S. policy. No regular U.S. Army unit was ever implicated in a similar atrocity. In the majority of actions, concludes Robert Utley, ‘the Army shot noncombatants incidentally and accidentally, not purposefully.’ As for the larger society, even if some elements in the white population, mainly in the West, at times advocated extermination, no official of the U.S. government ever seriously proposed it. Genocide was never American policy, nor was it the result of policy.”

Certainly I am not defending what happened to the indigenous peoples here any more than I can defend slavery. Both were deplorable, but guilt should be personal. A lot of blood was shed during the Civil War and reparations made to ancestors of slaves by the government would probably be handled as well as the rescue of stranded locals during Katrina. It would be a disaster in the making.

I really hope people vote for the candidate they feel is the most qualified and not because of the appearance or age of either of them. MLK’s remarks about a nation where people will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character is worth remembering. I am waiting to see who will be selected for Vice President, too. That should tell volumes about each man.

I apologize for the length of the post.

[Aecetia]

Regarding some of the remarks about Native Americans, I found this information in an article on American Indians and genocide:

“Finally, even if some episodes can be considered genocidal—that is, tending toward genocide—they certainly do not justify condemning an entire society. Guilt is personal, and for good reason the Genocide Convention provides that only ‘persons’ can be charged with the crime, probably even ruling out legal proceedings against governments. No less significant is that a massacre like Sand Creek was undertaken by a local volunteer militia and was not the expression of official U.S. policy. No regular U.S. Army unit was ever implicated in a similar atrocity. In the majority of actions, concludes Robert Utley, ‘the Army shot noncombatants incidentally and accidentally, not purposefully.’ As for the larger society, even if some elements in the white population, mainly in the West, at times advocated extermination, no official of the U.S. government ever seriously proposed it. Genocide was never American policy, nor was it the result of policy.”

Certainly I am not defending what happened to the indigenous peoples here any more than I can defend slavery. Both were deplorable, but guilt should be personal. A lot of blood was shed during the Civil War and reparations made to ancestors of slaves by the government would probably be handled as well as the rescue of stranded locals during Katrina. It would be a disaster in the making.

I really hope people vote for the candidate they feel is the most qualified and not because of the appearance or age of either of them. MLK’s remarks about a nation where people will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character is worth remembering. I am waiting to see who will be selected for Vice President, too. That should tell volumes about each man.

I apologize for the length of the post.

[Aecetia]

Regarding some of the remarks about Native Americans, I found this information in an article on American Indians and genocide:

“Finally, even if some episodes can be considered genocidal—that is, tending toward genocide—they certainly do not justify condemning an entire society. Guilt is personal, and for good reason the Genocide Convention provides that only ‘persons’ can be charged with the crime, probably even ruling out legal proceedings against governments. No less significant is that a massacre like Sand Creek was undertaken by a local volunteer militia and was not the expression of official U.S. policy. No regular U.S. Army unit was ever implicated in a similar atrocity. In the majority of actions, concludes Robert Utley, ‘the Army shot noncombatants incidentally and accidentally, not purposefully.’ As for the larger society, even if some elements in the white population, mainly in the West, at times advocated extermination, no official of the U.S. government ever seriously proposed it. Genocide was never American policy, nor was it the result of policy.”

Certainly I am not defending what happened to the indigenous peoples here any more than I can defend slavery. Both were deplorable, but guilt should be personal. A lot of blood was shed during the Civil War and reparations made to ancestors of slaves by the government would probably be handled as well as the rescue of stranded locals during Katrina. It would be a disaster in the making.

I really hope people vote for the candidate they feel is the most qualified and not because of the appearance or age of either of them. MLK’s remarks about a nation where people will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character is worth remembering. I am waiting to see who will be selected for Vice President, too. That should tell volumes about each man.

I apologize for the length of the post.

[Aecetia]

Regarding some of the remarks about Native Americans, I found this information in an article on American Indians and genocide:

“Finally, even if some episodes can be considered genocidal—that is, tending toward genocide—they certainly do not justify condemning an entire society. Guilt is personal, and for good reason the Genocide Convention provides that only ‘persons’ can be charged with the crime, probably even ruling out legal proceedings against governments. No less significant is that a massacre like Sand Creek was undertaken by a local volunteer militia and was not the expression of official U.S. policy. No regular U.S. Army unit was ever implicated in a similar atrocity. In the majority of actions, concludes Robert Utley, ‘the Army shot noncombatants incidentally and accidentally, not purposefully.’ As for the larger society, even if some elements in the white population, mainly in the West, at times advocated extermination, no official of the U.S. government ever seriously proposed it. Genocide was never American policy, nor was it the result of policy.”

Certainly I am not defending what happened to the indigenous peoples here any more than I can defend slavery. Both were deplorable, but guilt should be personal. A lot of blood was shed during the Civil War and reparations made to ancestors of slaves by the government would probably be handled as well as the rescue of stranded locals during Katrina. It would be a disaster in the making.

I really hope people vote for the candidate they feel is the most qualified and not because of the appearance or age of either of them. MLK’s remarks about a nation where people will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character is worth remembering. I am waiting to see who will be selected for Vice President, too. That should tell volumes about each man.

I apologize for the length of the post.

[an]

I only know of Ron Paul’s economic views and policies. That’s why I like him. But I don’t know about his social and other views, so I can’t really say I’m a Ron Paul groupie either. Too bad we don’t hear too much about libertarian in the mass media or even on the blog sphere.

[an]

I only know of Ron Paul’s economic views and policies. That’s why I like him. But I don’t know about his social and other views, so I can’t really say I’m a Ron Paul groupie either. Too bad we don’t hear too much about libertarian in the mass media or even on the blog sphere.

[an]

I only know of Ron Paul’s economic views and policies. That’s why I like him. But I don’t know about his social and other views, so I can’t really say I’m a Ron Paul groupie either. Too bad we don’t hear too much about libertarian in the mass media or even on the blog sphere.

[an]

I only know of Ron Paul’s economic views and policies. That’s why I like him. But I don’t know about his social and other views, so I can’t really say I’m a Ron Paul groupie either. Too bad we don’t hear too much about libertarian in the mass media or even on the blog sphere.

[an]

I only know of Ron Paul’s economic views and policies. That’s why I like him. But I don’t know about his social and other views, so I can’t really say I’m a Ron Paul groupie either. Too bad we don’t hear too much about libertarian in the mass media or even on the blog sphere.

[partypup]

“I’m sorry, but no one that got into Harvard or Princeton could possibly be that stupid.”

Stupid enough to be a senior vice president and earn 330K/year. I’m not saying I haven’t been discriminated against; I never said that, Marion. I have suffered much discrimination in my life. I have been insulted in job interviews and called “nigger” more times than I can count on one hand.

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education. Am I discriminated against more than my educated white colleagues? Yes. But my point is that it hasn’t been significant enough to keep me from accomplishing what I have, and it certainly hasn’t been signficiant enough to keep Obama from accomplishing what he has.

Do you really think Obama would be where he is today without his pedigree? It might surprise you to know that he was given his first book deal immediately after graduating from law school SOLELY because he was elected the first black president of Harvard Law Review. Had he been elected president of UCLA Law Review, no one would have looked his way.

Lastly, it’s pretty insulting that you believe that all black people should act or think the same way. What are we, monolithic? If my experience has been different from yours, does that mean I am not black?? Am I not “down with the cause” unless I cry discrimination every day?
That’s crazy. And it’s also the same idiocy that was thrown at Bill Cosby when “The Cosby Show” debuted. “That’s not how black people live,” some would cry. Well, you know what? That’s how I grew up, and I’m not ashamed of it. I am very proud to be black. i think it is nothing short of racism for you to assume that all black people should have the same experience or vision.

If you really can’t see the difference an education makes for anyone, black OR white, then you must have a very meager education, yourself, marion. My sympathies.

[partypup]

“I’m sorry, but no one that got into Harvard or Princeton could possibly be that stupid.”

Stupid enough to be a senior vice president and earn 330K/year. I’m not saying I haven’t been discriminated against; I never said that, Marion. I have suffered much discrimination in my life. I have been insulted in job interviews and called “nigger” more times than I can count on one hand.

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education. Am I discriminated against more than my educated white colleagues? Yes. But my point is that it hasn’t been significant enough to keep me from accomplishing what I have, and it certainly hasn’t been signficiant enough to keep Obama from accomplishing what he has.

Do you really think Obama would be where he is today without his pedigree? It might surprise you to know that he was given his first book deal immediately after graduating from law school SOLELY because he was elected the first black president of Harvard Law Review. Had he been elected president of UCLA Law Review, no one would have looked his way.

Lastly, it’s pretty insulting that you believe that all black people should act or think the same way. What are we, monolithic? If my experience has been different from yours, does that mean I am not black?? Am I not “down with the cause” unless I cry discrimination every day?
That’s crazy. And it’s also the same idiocy that was thrown at Bill Cosby when “The Cosby Show” debuted. “That’s not how black people live,” some would cry. Well, you know what? That’s how I grew up, and I’m not ashamed of it. I am very proud to be black. i think it is nothing short of racism for you to assume that all black people should have the same experience or vision.

If you really can’t see the difference an education makes for anyone, black OR white, then you must have a very meager education, yourself, marion. My sympathies.

[partypup]

“I’m sorry, but no one that got into Harvard or Princeton could possibly be that stupid.”

Stupid enough to be a senior vice president and earn 330K/year. I’m not saying I haven’t been discriminated against; I never said that, Marion. I have suffered much discrimination in my life. I have been insulted in job interviews and called “nigger” more times than I can count on one hand.

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education. Am I discriminated against more than my educated white colleagues? Yes. But my point is that it hasn’t been significant enough to keep me from accomplishing what I have, and it certainly hasn’t been signficiant enough to keep Obama from accomplishing what he has.

Do you really think Obama would be where he is today without his pedigree? It might surprise you to know that he was given his first book deal immediately after graduating from law school SOLELY because he was elected the first black president of Harvard Law Review. Had he been elected president of UCLA Law Review, no one would have looked his way.

Lastly, it’s pretty insulting that you believe that all black people should act or think the same way. What are we, monolithic? If my experience has been different from yours, does that mean I am not black?? Am I not “down with the cause” unless I cry discrimination every day?
That’s crazy. And it’s also the same idiocy that was thrown at Bill Cosby when “The Cosby Show” debuted. “That’s not how black people live,” some would cry. Well, you know what? That’s how I grew up, and I’m not ashamed of it. I am very proud to be black. i think it is nothing short of racism for you to assume that all black people should have the same experience or vision.

If you really can’t see the difference an education makes for anyone, black OR white, then you must have a very meager education, yourself, marion. My sympathies.

[partypup]

“I’m sorry, but no one that got into Harvard or Princeton could possibly be that stupid.”

Stupid enough to be a senior vice president and earn 330K/year. I’m not saying I haven’t been discriminated against; I never said that, Marion. I have suffered much discrimination in my life. I have been insulted in job interviews and called “nigger” more times than I can count on one hand.

But pay close attention: I said that those without education suffer MORE discrimination. How can you deny this? Even white people without education are “discriminated” against by those whites who have an education. Am I discriminated against more than my educated white colleagues? Yes. But my point is that it hasn’t been significant enough to keep me from accomplishing what I have, and it certainly hasn’t been signficiant enough to keep Obama from accomplishing what he has.

Do you really think Obama would be where he is today without his pedigree? It might surprise you to know that he was given his first book deal immediately after graduating from law school SOLELY because he was elected the first black president of Harvard Law Review. Had he been elected president of UCLA Law Review, no one would have looked his way.

Lastly, it’s pretty insulting that you believe that all black people should act or think the same way. What are we, monolithic? If my experience has been different from yours, does that mean I am not black?? Am I not “down with the cause” unless I cry discrimination every day?
That’s crazy. And it’s also the same idiocy that was thrown at Bill Cosby when “The Cosby Show” debuted. “That’s not how black people live,” some would cry. Well, you know what? That’s how I grew up, and I’m not ashamed of it. I am very proud to be black. i think it is nothing short of racism for you to assume that all black people should have the same experience or vision.

If you really can’t see the difference an education makes for anyone, black OR white, then you must have a very meager education, yourself, marion. My sympathies.

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