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August 12, 2009 at 3:09 PM #444817August 12, 2009 at 3:09 PM #444043
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Arraya][quote=Ricechex]Zeitgeist and ScaredyCat…please stop this bickering. It is superficial and throwing jabs when none is due. I think references comparing anyone to Hitler are not valid, I have heard Jews (yes Jews) in my workplace refer to a boss as “Hitler.” Not cute. “Hitler” has come to mean, “people that are bad and controlling and cause you grief.” People referred to GW as a Hitler. Yeah, he was bad, as most politicians, but he certainly was not Hitler. It is just silly ignorance IMO. The true Hitler in our world is NOT a single man, it is an entire group of men comprising banks, corporations and government. Many are complicit in this scheme, there are too many to name one, and thus very difficult to infiltrate and overthrow. Our villain is not easily identifiable.[/quote]
Bingo!
We no longer get real dictators such as a Hitler or Stalin. We get money syndicates in Savile Row suits, cartels of robber barons, banking racketeers and their political enabling sychophants.
The state is going to take more and more control, that’s for sure, but out of pragmatism for the powerful not out of political ideology.[/quote]
Arraya: Don’t forget that (using Hitler/WWII analogy), the bankers and industrialists, both within Germany and without, supported Hitler as a bulwark against encroaching Bolshevism (Soviet Russia).
“Trade follows the flag”. From the Romans to the British to us, political ideology is always tied to trade. As Hearst said at the outset of the Spanish-American War in 1898: “Give me the pictures and I’ll give you a war”. You propagandize and “sell” your case to the people and then prosecute the conflict, which is invariably tied to trade, commerce and empire building (or preservation) at some level.
August 12, 2009 at 3:09 PM #444237Participant[quote=Arraya][quote=Ricechex]Zeitgeist and ScaredyCat…please stop this bickering. It is superficial and throwing jabs when none is due. I think references comparing anyone to Hitler are not valid, I have heard Jews (yes Jews) in my workplace refer to a boss as “Hitler.” Not cute. “Hitler” has come to mean, “people that are bad and controlling and cause you grief.” People referred to GW as a Hitler. Yeah, he was bad, as most politicians, but he certainly was not Hitler. It is just silly ignorance IMO. The true Hitler in our world is NOT a single man, it is an entire group of men comprising banks, corporations and government. Many are complicit in this scheme, there are too many to name one, and thus very difficult to infiltrate and overthrow. Our villain is not easily identifiable.[/quote]
Bingo!
We no longer get real dictators such as a Hitler or Stalin. We get money syndicates in Savile Row suits, cartels of robber barons, banking racketeers and their political enabling sychophants.
The state is going to take more and more control, that’s for sure, but out of pragmatism for the powerful not out of political ideology.[/quote]
Arraya: Don’t forget that (using Hitler/WWII analogy), the bankers and industrialists, both within Germany and without, supported Hitler as a bulwark against encroaching Bolshevism (Soviet Russia).
“Trade follows the flag”. From the Romans to the British to us, political ideology is always tied to trade. As Hearst said at the outset of the Spanish-American War in 1898: “Give me the pictures and I’ll give you a war”. You propagandize and “sell” your case to the people and then prosecute the conflict, which is invariably tied to trade, commerce and empire building (or preservation) at some level.
August 12, 2009 at 3:09 PM #444574Participant[quote=Arraya][quote=Ricechex]Zeitgeist and ScaredyCat…please stop this bickering. It is superficial and throwing jabs when none is due. I think references comparing anyone to Hitler are not valid, I have heard Jews (yes Jews) in my workplace refer to a boss as “Hitler.” Not cute. “Hitler” has come to mean, “people that are bad and controlling and cause you grief.” People referred to GW as a Hitler. Yeah, he was bad, as most politicians, but he certainly was not Hitler. It is just silly ignorance IMO. The true Hitler in our world is NOT a single man, it is an entire group of men comprising banks, corporations and government. Many are complicit in this scheme, there are too many to name one, and thus very difficult to infiltrate and overthrow. Our villain is not easily identifiable.[/quote]
Bingo!
We no longer get real dictators such as a Hitler or Stalin. We get money syndicates in Savile Row suits, cartels of robber barons, banking racketeers and their political enabling sychophants.
The state is going to take more and more control, that’s for sure, but out of pragmatism for the powerful not out of political ideology.[/quote]
Arraya: Don’t forget that (using Hitler/WWII analogy), the bankers and industrialists, both within Germany and without, supported Hitler as a bulwark against encroaching Bolshevism (Soviet Russia).
“Trade follows the flag”. From the Romans to the British to us, political ideology is always tied to trade. As Hearst said at the outset of the Spanish-American War in 1898: “Give me the pictures and I’ll give you a war”. You propagandize and “sell” your case to the people and then prosecute the conflict, which is invariably tied to trade, commerce and empire building (or preservation) at some level.
August 12, 2009 at 3:09 PM #444643Participant[quote=Arraya][quote=Ricechex]Zeitgeist and ScaredyCat…please stop this bickering. It is superficial and throwing jabs when none is due. I think references comparing anyone to Hitler are not valid, I have heard Jews (yes Jews) in my workplace refer to a boss as “Hitler.” Not cute. “Hitler” has come to mean, “people that are bad and controlling and cause you grief.” People referred to GW as a Hitler. Yeah, he was bad, as most politicians, but he certainly was not Hitler. It is just silly ignorance IMO. The true Hitler in our world is NOT a single man, it is an entire group of men comprising banks, corporations and government. Many are complicit in this scheme, there are too many to name one, and thus very difficult to infiltrate and overthrow. Our villain is not easily identifiable.[/quote]
Bingo!
We no longer get real dictators such as a Hitler or Stalin. We get money syndicates in Savile Row suits, cartels of robber barons, banking racketeers and their political enabling sychophants.
The state is going to take more and more control, that’s for sure, but out of pragmatism for the powerful not out of political ideology.[/quote]
Arraya: Don’t forget that (using Hitler/WWII analogy), the bankers and industrialists, both within Germany and without, supported Hitler as a bulwark against encroaching Bolshevism (Soviet Russia).
“Trade follows the flag”. From the Romans to the British to us, political ideology is always tied to trade. As Hearst said at the outset of the Spanish-American War in 1898: “Give me the pictures and I’ll give you a war”. You propagandize and “sell” your case to the people and then prosecute the conflict, which is invariably tied to trade, commerce and empire building (or preservation) at some level.
August 12, 2009 at 3:09 PM #444822Participant[quote=Arraya][quote=Ricechex]Zeitgeist and ScaredyCat…please stop this bickering. It is superficial and throwing jabs when none is due. I think references comparing anyone to Hitler are not valid, I have heard Jews (yes Jews) in my workplace refer to a boss as “Hitler.” Not cute. “Hitler” has come to mean, “people that are bad and controlling and cause you grief.” People referred to GW as a Hitler. Yeah, he was bad, as most politicians, but he certainly was not Hitler. It is just silly ignorance IMO. The true Hitler in our world is NOT a single man, it is an entire group of men comprising banks, corporations and government. Many are complicit in this scheme, there are too many to name one, and thus very difficult to infiltrate and overthrow. Our villain is not easily identifiable.[/quote]
Bingo!
We no longer get real dictators such as a Hitler or Stalin. We get money syndicates in Savile Row suits, cartels of robber barons, banking racketeers and their political enabling sychophants.
The state is going to take more and more control, that’s for sure, but out of pragmatism for the powerful not out of political ideology.[/quote]
Arraya: Don’t forget that (using Hitler/WWII analogy), the bankers and industrialists, both within Germany and without, supported Hitler as a bulwark against encroaching Bolshevism (Soviet Russia).
“Trade follows the flag”. From the Romans to the British to us, political ideology is always tied to trade. As Hearst said at the outset of the Spanish-American War in 1898: “Give me the pictures and I’ll give you a war”. You propagandize and “sell” your case to the people and then prosecute the conflict, which is invariably tied to trade, commerce and empire building (or preservation) at some level.
August 12, 2009 at 5:03 PM #444083Aecetia
ParticipantOff topic for Allan,
hey any more Gaiman recommendations?August 12, 2009 at 5:03 PM #444277ParticipantOff topic for Allan,
hey any more Gaiman recommendations?August 12, 2009 at 5:03 PM #444615ParticipantOff topic for Allan,
hey any more Gaiman recommendations?August 12, 2009 at 5:03 PM #444683ParticipantOff topic for Allan,
hey any more Gaiman recommendations?August 12, 2009 at 5:03 PM #444862ParticipantOff topic for Allan,
hey any more Gaiman recommendations?August 12, 2009 at 5:33 PM #444103Participant[quote=Aecetia]Off topic for Allan,
hey any more Gaiman recommendations?[/quote]Aecetia: Nothing new on the Gaiman front (I think he has something due out, but I haven’t seen it yet).
I’ve been reading an author named China Mieville lately. He has a series called the Bas-Lag about a fictional city named New Crobuzon. It’s a little out there, but I’m enjoying it. Do a little research and see what you think. He may not be your cup of tea.
August 12, 2009 at 5:33 PM #444297Participant[quote=Aecetia]Off topic for Allan,
hey any more Gaiman recommendations?[/quote]Aecetia: Nothing new on the Gaiman front (I think he has something due out, but I haven’t seen it yet).
I’ve been reading an author named China Mieville lately. He has a series called the Bas-Lag about a fictional city named New Crobuzon. It’s a little out there, but I’m enjoying it. Do a little research and see what you think. He may not be your cup of tea.
August 12, 2009 at 5:33 PM #444635Participant[quote=Aecetia]Off topic for Allan,
hey any more Gaiman recommendations?[/quote]Aecetia: Nothing new on the Gaiman front (I think he has something due out, but I haven’t seen it yet).
I’ve been reading an author named China Mieville lately. He has a series called the Bas-Lag about a fictional city named New Crobuzon. It’s a little out there, but I’m enjoying it. Do a little research and see what you think. He may not be your cup of tea.
August 12, 2009 at 5:33 PM #444703Participant[quote=Aecetia]Off topic for Allan,
hey any more Gaiman recommendations?[/quote]Aecetia: Nothing new on the Gaiman front (I think he has something due out, but I haven’t seen it yet).
I’ve been reading an author named China Mieville lately. He has a series called the Bas-Lag about a fictional city named New Crobuzon. It’s a little out there, but I’m enjoying it. Do a little research and see what you think. He may not be your cup of tea.
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