OT: Military Officer Refuses Order from Obama

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[quote=sobmaz]You gotta wonder, if there was REALLY any question about Obama’s birth, why the Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts violated his oath of office and swore in TWICE an illegitimate President?

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And you gotta wonder, if there was REALLY a question about the legitimacy of how the Fed spent TARP money, the Dems and the Republicans would be on top of it and mandate that the Fed release this information, right? But they have not. Don’t assume that our elected officials will work tirelessly to ensure that all misdeeds and lies will be exposed to the public. We’ve known the markets have been manipulated for years by the big banks, but it wasn’t until last week when Goldman’s secret, arguably illegal trading code was stolen that we were given a glimpse of the extent of the manipulation. And yet this manipulation has stood in the dark for many, many years. You would think someone would have brought this to light sooner, right? But that’s not how things in this country – or any country – work.

There are a lot of things that would leave you wondering – if we still lived in a country led by honest ands law abiding people. But we don’t. The last official act of any government is to loot its Treasury (currently underway). Before it does that, it treats its citizens like fools and waits to see if they respond. When they don’t, the government realizes it can get away with anything. Look around you. Sneaking an impostor into office would be one of the milder offenses committed by these crooks in recent years.

The parties are no longer separate. They have a common goal with only slightly different means to accomplish that goal. Both parties have worked together to bankrupt this country in different ways. To believe that the overwhelming majority of GOP leadership (not its constituents, Paul, DeMint or other fringe elements) truly loathes Obama as much as they claim to is naive. I think there are some issues that the power brokers in both parties have simply decided are off-limits. Dismantling the Fed appears to be one such issue. U.S. hegemony in the Middle East would be another. The chatter and bickering that you hear on the other, smaller issues (gay marriage, abortion, etc) is just white noise designed to motivate us to root for our respective “teams”.

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[quote=Casca]

Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.

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Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.

The whole thing is stupid.

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[quote=Casca]

Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.

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Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.

The whole thing is stupid.

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[quote=Casca]

Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.

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Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.

The whole thing is stupid.

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[quote=Casca]

Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.

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Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.

The whole thing is stupid.

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[quote=Casca]

Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.

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Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.

The whole thing is stupid.

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I don’t believe you did any research before you chose to omit the most important FACT. The one fact that makes the rest of your assertions a bit nutty. I kinda thought you were over the top before, but this just confirms it. Interesting irrelevant and completely made up scary hypotheticals, tho.[/quote]

Actually, I really don’t care what you believe. The super-duper-important “fact” that you are strangely clinging to was irrelevant to the point I was making, which is why I chose not to bring it up in my post. It was really a silly sidebar to get caught up on, and the court obviously isn’t clinging as tightly to this fact as you are – or it would not be hearing the case.

And you know what? At least I responded to your question. I explained why the fact you pointed to was irrelevant to my analysis. But what do you do? Ignore all of the other follow-up questions I posed above and retreat to the one fact you think unhinges my entire argument. Give your mind some practice and try actually responding to points raised in a debate instead of ignoring the ones that are inconvenient for you.

I don’t know what you do for a living, but I sincerely hope it doesn’t involve reasoned argument or analysis, because your response demonstrates that both are lacking. *Sigh*

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[quote=pabloesqobar][quote=partypup][quote=pabloesqobar][/quote]

I don’t believe you did any research before you chose to omit the most important FACT. The one fact that makes the rest of your assertions a bit nutty. I kinda thought you were over the top before, but this just confirms it. Interesting irrelevant and completely made up scary hypotheticals, tho.[/quote]

Actually, I really don’t care what you believe. The super-duper-important “fact” that you are strangely clinging to was irrelevant to the point I was making, which is why I chose not to bring it up in my post. It was really a silly sidebar to get caught up on, and the court obviously isn’t clinging as tightly to this fact as you are – or it would not be hearing the case.

And you know what? At least I responded to your question. I explained why the fact you pointed to was irrelevant to my analysis. But what do you do? Ignore all of the other follow-up questions I posed above and retreat to the one fact you think unhinges my entire argument. Give your mind some practice and try actually responding to points raised in a debate instead of ignoring the ones that are inconvenient for you.

I don’t know what you do for a living, but I sincerely hope it doesn’t involve reasoned argument or analysis, because your response demonstrates that both are lacking. *Sigh*

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[quote=pabloesqobar][quote=partypup][quote=pabloesqobar][/quote]

I don’t believe you did any research before you chose to omit the most important FACT. The one fact that makes the rest of your assertions a bit nutty. I kinda thought you were over the top before, but this just confirms it. Interesting irrelevant and completely made up scary hypotheticals, tho.[/quote]

Actually, I really don’t care what you believe. The super-duper-important “fact” that you are strangely clinging to was irrelevant to the point I was making, which is why I chose not to bring it up in my post. It was really a silly sidebar to get caught up on, and the court obviously isn’t clinging as tightly to this fact as you are – or it would not be hearing the case.

And you know what? At least I responded to your question. I explained why the fact you pointed to was irrelevant to my analysis. But what do you do? Ignore all of the other follow-up questions I posed above and retreat to the one fact you think unhinges my entire argument. Give your mind some practice and try actually responding to points raised in a debate instead of ignoring the ones that are inconvenient for you.

I don’t know what you do for a living, but I sincerely hope it doesn’t involve reasoned argument or analysis, because your response demonstrates that both are lacking. *Sigh*

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[quote=pabloesqobar][quote=partypup][quote=pabloesqobar][/quote]

I don’t believe you did any research before you chose to omit the most important FACT. The one fact that makes the rest of your assertions a bit nutty. I kinda thought you were over the top before, but this just confirms it. Interesting irrelevant and completely made up scary hypotheticals, tho.[/quote]

Actually, I really don’t care what you believe. The super-duper-important “fact” that you are strangely clinging to was irrelevant to the point I was making, which is why I chose not to bring it up in my post. It was really a silly sidebar to get caught up on, and the court obviously isn’t clinging as tightly to this fact as you are – or it would not be hearing the case.

And you know what? At least I responded to your question. I explained why the fact you pointed to was irrelevant to my analysis. But what do you do? Ignore all of the other follow-up questions I posed above and retreat to the one fact you think unhinges my entire argument. Give your mind some practice and try actually responding to points raised in a debate instead of ignoring the ones that are inconvenient for you.

I don’t know what you do for a living, but I sincerely hope it doesn’t involve reasoned argument or analysis, because your response demonstrates that both are lacking. *Sigh*

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[quote=pabloesqobar][quote=partypup][quote=pabloesqobar][/quote]

I don’t believe you did any research before you chose to omit the most important FACT. The one fact that makes the rest of your assertions a bit nutty. I kinda thought you were over the top before, but this just confirms it. Interesting irrelevant and completely made up scary hypotheticals, tho.[/quote]

Actually, I really don’t care what you believe. The super-duper-important “fact” that you are strangely clinging to was irrelevant to the point I was making, which is why I chose not to bring it up in my post. It was really a silly sidebar to get caught up on, and the court obviously isn’t clinging as tightly to this fact as you are – or it would not be hearing the case.

And you know what? At least I responded to your question. I explained why the fact you pointed to was irrelevant to my analysis. But what do you do? Ignore all of the other follow-up questions I posed above and retreat to the one fact you think unhinges my entire argument. Give your mind some practice and try actually responding to points raised in a debate instead of ignoring the ones that are inconvenient for you.

I don’t know what you do for a living, but I sincerely hope it doesn’t involve reasoned argument or analysis, because your response demonstrates that both are lacking. *Sigh*

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Hey, leave the teleprompter-in-chief alone.

Personally, I think the birth certificate issue is

COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception,

An intelligence agency made up conspiracy for manipulative purposes.

It really fucks with the “patriot” rights head and aligns conspiracy with crazy. Which has been a popular theme pumping through left wing media, crazy=conspiracy=racist=anti-government. Don’t worry lefties the government stopped being a criminal organization when Obama came to town and anybody who tells you otherwise is…. Remember you media implanted meme…. Insane!

Could the criminals that control the united states get somebody in to the presidency with phony documentation. Sure, but they would have that aspect cleared up long long before it would ever become an issue, IMO

[Arraya]

Hey, leave the teleprompter-in-chief alone.

Personally, I think the birth certificate issue is

COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception,

An intelligence agency made up conspiracy for manipulative purposes.

It really fucks with the “patriot” rights head and aligns conspiracy with crazy. Which has been a popular theme pumping through left wing media, crazy=conspiracy=racist=anti-government. Don’t worry lefties the government stopped being a criminal organization when Obama came to town and anybody who tells you otherwise is…. Remember you media implanted meme…. Insane!

Could the criminals that control the united states get somebody in to the presidency with phony documentation. Sure, but they would have that aspect cleared up long long before it would ever become an issue, IMO

[Arraya]

Hey, leave the teleprompter-in-chief alone.

Personally, I think the birth certificate issue is

COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception,

An intelligence agency made up conspiracy for manipulative purposes.

It really fucks with the “patriot” rights head and aligns conspiracy with crazy. Which has been a popular theme pumping through left wing media, crazy=conspiracy=racist=anti-government. Don’t worry lefties the government stopped being a criminal organization when Obama came to town and anybody who tells you otherwise is…. Remember you media implanted meme…. Insane!

Could the criminals that control the united states get somebody in to the presidency with phony documentation. Sure, but they would have that aspect cleared up long long before it would ever become an issue, IMO

[Arraya]

Hey, leave the teleprompter-in-chief alone.

Personally, I think the birth certificate issue is

COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception,

An intelligence agency made up conspiracy for manipulative purposes.

It really fucks with the “patriot” rights head and aligns conspiracy with crazy. Which has been a popular theme pumping through left wing media, crazy=conspiracy=racist=anti-government. Don’t worry lefties the government stopped being a criminal organization when Obama came to town and anybody who tells you otherwise is…. Remember you media implanted meme…. Insane!

Could the criminals that control the united states get somebody in to the presidency with phony documentation. Sure, but they would have that aspect cleared up long long before it would ever become an issue, IMO

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