OT: MCCAIN TAKES 10-POINT LEAD OVER OBAMA

[Eugene]

We can always depend on the US to protect us and we can always come across the border for medical services.

Also we don’t have to worry that our government’s meddling in other countries’ internal affairs (killings of civilians, military bases, etc) pisses off Iranians or North Koreans and someone finally detonates a dirty bomb in LA.

As for the medical services, you must be confused. Canadian healthcare system is much cheaper than American and it manages to achieve superior results (longer life expectancies, lower infant mortalities) despite spending only half as much per capita. You’re better off receiving medical treatment or buying drugs in Canada. Have you ever heard about drug-buying bus tours? American seniors in northern states sometimes go on dedicated bus tours to Canada to buy prescription drugs. They are much cheaper there.

If you want some kind of elective surgery like a boob job or an IVF, neither Canada nor the US is a good choice. Mexico is the best choice. Tijuana has a booming healthcare industry that provides all kinds of services to Americans. For example, Mexican dentists have similar training and equipment to their American counterparts, but they are five times cheaper.

[Veritas]

TJ is fine, if you do not get kidnapped for ransom. Other than that, getting dental work there is a great idea.

http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/weekly_2003/canada_vs_us_healthcare.html

This article is dated, but some things can’t wait.

“In Canada’s public-health system, which promises free, equal-access care to all citizens, medical resources are explicitly rationed. For the country as a whole, that works — Canada spends far less on health care, yet the health outcomes of its citizens are generally as good as those in the U.S.
But the trade-offs are steep: Canadian hospitals are slower to adopt the latest technology, meaning patients have more limited access to cutting-edge medical equipment. There are fewer specialists for patients to see.
The riskiest trade-off of all is troublingly long waits. Once patients see a family doctor and get a referral for specialist care, it can take weeks or even months to get an appointment. In some parts of the country, patients waiting for admission to a hospital sometimes find themselves waiting for hours and even days on gurneys in the corridor, and receiving treatment there.
Waiting is the giant flaw in many national health-care plans. A study this year by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found waiting times for elective surgery are a “significant health-policy concern” in about half of the group’s 30 members, including the United Kingdom, Australia, Sweden, Canada, Italy, Denmark and Spain. Waiting times weren’t a problem in the U.S., the group said.
In Canada, the long waits stirred a public outcry and a government inquiry when a 63-year-old heart patient at St. Michael’s died in 1989 after his surgery had been canceled 11 times. While the inquiry concluded the death wasn’t caused by the delays, it highlighted the long waiting lists and called for better management of patients in the line.”

[Veritas]

TJ is fine, if you do not get kidnapped for ransom. Other than that, getting dental work there is a great idea.

http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/weekly_2003/canada_vs_us_healthcare.html

This article is dated, but some things can’t wait.

“In Canada’s public-health system, which promises free, equal-access care to all citizens, medical resources are explicitly rationed. For the country as a whole, that works — Canada spends far less on health care, yet the health outcomes of its citizens are generally as good as those in the U.S.
But the trade-offs are steep: Canadian hospitals are slower to adopt the latest technology, meaning patients have more limited access to cutting-edge medical equipment. There are fewer specialists for patients to see.
The riskiest trade-off of all is troublingly long waits. Once patients see a family doctor and get a referral for specialist care, it can take weeks or even months to get an appointment. In some parts of the country, patients waiting for admission to a hospital sometimes find themselves waiting for hours and even days on gurneys in the corridor, and receiving treatment there.
Waiting is the giant flaw in many national health-care plans. A study this year by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found waiting times for elective surgery are a “significant health-policy concern” in about half of the group’s 30 members, including the United Kingdom, Australia, Sweden, Canada, Italy, Denmark and Spain. Waiting times weren’t a problem in the U.S., the group said.
In Canada, the long waits stirred a public outcry and a government inquiry when a 63-year-old heart patient at St. Michael’s died in 1989 after his surgery had been canceled 11 times. While the inquiry concluded the death wasn’t caused by the delays, it highlighted the long waiting lists and called for better management of patients in the line.”

[Veritas]

TJ is fine, if you do not get kidnapped for ransom. Other than that, getting dental work there is a great idea.

http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/weekly_2003/canada_vs_us_healthcare.html

This article is dated, but some things can’t wait.

“In Canada’s public-health system, which promises free, equal-access care to all citizens, medical resources are explicitly rationed. For the country as a whole, that works — Canada spends far less on health care, yet the health outcomes of its citizens are generally as good as those in the U.S.
But the trade-offs are steep: Canadian hospitals are slower to adopt the latest technology, meaning patients have more limited access to cutting-edge medical equipment. There are fewer specialists for patients to see.
The riskiest trade-off of all is troublingly long waits. Once patients see a family doctor and get a referral for specialist care, it can take weeks or even months to get an appointment. In some parts of the country, patients waiting for admission to a hospital sometimes find themselves waiting for hours and even days on gurneys in the corridor, and receiving treatment there.
Waiting is the giant flaw in many national health-care plans. A study this year by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found waiting times for elective surgery are a “significant health-policy concern” in about half of the group’s 30 members, including the United Kingdom, Australia, Sweden, Canada, Italy, Denmark and Spain. Waiting times weren’t a problem in the U.S., the group said.
In Canada, the long waits stirred a public outcry and a government inquiry when a 63-year-old heart patient at St. Michael’s died in 1989 after his surgery had been canceled 11 times. While the inquiry concluded the death wasn’t caused by the delays, it highlighted the long waiting lists and called for better management of patients in the line.”

[Veritas]

TJ is fine, if you do not get kidnapped for ransom. Other than that, getting dental work there is a great idea.

http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/weekly_2003/canada_vs_us_healthcare.html

This article is dated, but some things can’t wait.

“In Canada’s public-health system, which promises free, equal-access care to all citizens, medical resources are explicitly rationed. For the country as a whole, that works — Canada spends far less on health care, yet the health outcomes of its citizens are generally as good as those in the U.S.
But the trade-offs are steep: Canadian hospitals are slower to adopt the latest technology, meaning patients have more limited access to cutting-edge medical equipment. There are fewer specialists for patients to see.
The riskiest trade-off of all is troublingly long waits. Once patients see a family doctor and get a referral for specialist care, it can take weeks or even months to get an appointment. In some parts of the country, patients waiting for admission to a hospital sometimes find themselves waiting for hours and even days on gurneys in the corridor, and receiving treatment there.
Waiting is the giant flaw in many national health-care plans. A study this year by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found waiting times for elective surgery are a “significant health-policy concern” in about half of the group’s 30 members, including the United Kingdom, Australia, Sweden, Canada, Italy, Denmark and Spain. Waiting times weren’t a problem in the U.S., the group said.
In Canada, the long waits stirred a public outcry and a government inquiry when a 63-year-old heart patient at St. Michael’s died in 1989 after his surgery had been canceled 11 times. While the inquiry concluded the death wasn’t caused by the delays, it highlighted the long waiting lists and called for better management of patients in the line.”

[Veritas]

TJ is fine, if you do not get kidnapped for ransom. Other than that, getting dental work there is a great idea.

http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/weekly_2003/canada_vs_us_healthcare.html

This article is dated, but some things can’t wait.

“In Canada’s public-health system, which promises free, equal-access care to all citizens, medical resources are explicitly rationed. For the country as a whole, that works — Canada spends far less on health care, yet the health outcomes of its citizens are generally as good as those in the U.S.
But the trade-offs are steep: Canadian hospitals are slower to adopt the latest technology, meaning patients have more limited access to cutting-edge medical equipment. There are fewer specialists for patients to see.
The riskiest trade-off of all is troublingly long waits. Once patients see a family doctor and get a referral for specialist care, it can take weeks or even months to get an appointment. In some parts of the country, patients waiting for admission to a hospital sometimes find themselves waiting for hours and even days on gurneys in the corridor, and receiving treatment there.
Waiting is the giant flaw in many national health-care plans. A study this year by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found waiting times for elective surgery are a “significant health-policy concern” in about half of the group’s 30 members, including the United Kingdom, Australia, Sweden, Canada, Italy, Denmark and Spain. Waiting times weren’t a problem in the U.S., the group said.
In Canada, the long waits stirred a public outcry and a government inquiry when a 63-year-old heart patient at St. Michael’s died in 1989 after his surgery had been canceled 11 times. While the inquiry concluded the death wasn’t caused by the delays, it highlighted the long waiting lists and called for better management of patients in the line.”

[Eugene]

Once patients see a family doctor and get a referral for specialist care, it can take weeks or even months to get an appointment.

Sounds exactly like my HMO plan. See the primary physician, pay $10, get a referral, wait six weeks for the appointment with the specialist.
We have problems with ER waiting times too, though they vary from place to place. There’s usually no wait or very little wait in the ER in Pomerado Hospital. Rady Children’s ER is usually packed and I remember waiting 3 hours with my son there, on more than one occasion.

[Eugene]

Once patients see a family doctor and get a referral for specialist care, it can take weeks or even months to get an appointment.

Sounds exactly like my HMO plan. See the primary physician, pay $10, get a referral, wait six weeks for the appointment with the specialist.
We have problems with ER waiting times too, though they vary from place to place. There’s usually no wait or very little wait in the ER in Pomerado Hospital. Rady Children’s ER is usually packed and I remember waiting 3 hours with my son there, on more than one occasion.

[Eugene]

Once patients see a family doctor and get a referral for specialist care, it can take weeks or even months to get an appointment.

Sounds exactly like my HMO plan. See the primary physician, pay $10, get a referral, wait six weeks for the appointment with the specialist.
We have problems with ER waiting times too, though they vary from place to place. There’s usually no wait or very little wait in the ER in Pomerado Hospital. Rady Children’s ER is usually packed and I remember waiting 3 hours with my son there, on more than one occasion.

[Eugene]

Once patients see a family doctor and get a referral for specialist care, it can take weeks or even months to get an appointment.

Sounds exactly like my HMO plan. See the primary physician, pay $10, get a referral, wait six weeks for the appointment with the specialist.
We have problems with ER waiting times too, though they vary from place to place. There’s usually no wait or very little wait in the ER in Pomerado Hospital. Rady Children’s ER is usually packed and I remember waiting 3 hours with my son there, on more than one occasion.

[Eugene]

Once patients see a family doctor and get a referral for specialist care, it can take weeks or even months to get an appointment.

Sounds exactly like my HMO plan. See the primary physician, pay $10, get a referral, wait six weeks for the appointment with the specialist.
We have problems with ER waiting times too, though they vary from place to place. There’s usually no wait or very little wait in the ER in Pomerado Hospital. Rady Children’s ER is usually packed and I remember waiting 3 hours with my son there, on more than one occasion.

[Aecetia]

I visited Canada about 30 years ago and thought it was a beautiful country, but I did not need any social services, I was only a tourist. The Vancouver area especially is very upscale and the weather there is not severe. If you have to have sunshine, it is probably not the place for you. It rained several days in the middle of summer.

[Aecetia]

I visited Canada about 30 years ago and thought it was a beautiful country, but I did not need any social services, I was only a tourist. The Vancouver area especially is very upscale and the weather there is not severe. If you have to have sunshine, it is probably not the place for you. It rained several days in the middle of summer.

[Aecetia]

I visited Canada about 30 years ago and thought it was a beautiful country, but I did not need any social services, I was only a tourist. The Vancouver area especially is very upscale and the weather there is not severe. If you have to have sunshine, it is probably not the place for you. It rained several days in the middle of summer.

[Aecetia]

I visited Canada about 30 years ago and thought it was a beautiful country, but I did not need any social services, I was only a tourist. The Vancouver area especially is very upscale and the weather there is not severe. If you have to have sunshine, it is probably not the place for you. It rained several days in the middle of summer.

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