OT – Illegal’s, Arizona, and Obama…

[briansd1]

[quote=CONCHO]

Illegal immigration is just a symptom of a larger disease. This problem exists around the world, from South Africa to Australia and Europe. The underlying issue is the accelerating transfer of wealth upwards from the great many on the bottom to the privileged few at the top. Illegal immigrants have no other option. The lower class people in the US are soon to understand their desperation, and the middle class are being repositioned as the new lower class. In 50 years most descendants of today’s middle class families will be living in favelas if things don’t change, and I don’t expect they will. That’s one of the big reasons I’m never having kids. That sad-looking Guatemalan guy trimming our hedge is one of us, and until we all understand that, nothing’s gonna change.[/quote]

I absolutely agree with you on this CONCHO.

Let’s address the root cause of unauthorized immigration rather than demonize and punish the immigrants themselves. As you said, they are us.

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[quote=briansd1]
Let’s address the root cause of unauthorized immigration rather than demonize and punish the immigrants themselves. As you said, they are us.[/quote]

I recently discovered a remarkable series of videos which articulate the root cause clearly and concisely. I highly recommend them.

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[quote=briansd1]
Let’s address the root cause of unauthorized immigration rather than demonize and punish the immigrants themselves. As you said, they are us.[/quote]

I recently discovered a remarkable series of videos which articulate the root cause clearly and concisely. I highly recommend them.

[blahblahblah]

[quote=briansd1]
Let’s address the root cause of unauthorized immigration rather than demonize and punish the immigrants themselves. As you said, they are us.[/quote]

I recently discovered a remarkable series of videos which articulate the root cause clearly and concisely. I highly recommend them.

[blahblahblah]

[quote=briansd1]
Let’s address the root cause of unauthorized immigration rather than demonize and punish the immigrants themselves. As you said, they are us.[/quote]

I recently discovered a remarkable series of videos which articulate the root cause clearly and concisely. I highly recommend them.

[blahblahblah]

[quote=briansd1]
Let’s address the root cause of unauthorized immigration rather than demonize and punish the immigrants themselves. As you said, they are us.[/quote]

I recently discovered a remarkable series of videos which articulate the root cause clearly and concisely. I highly recommend them.

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]
Listen to David Brooks, a well-known conservative voice. Even he admits that Republicans are hell bent on obstruction.

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11206

I would much rather listen to reason that the one liners from the likes of Palin, Beck and Limbaugh.[/quote]

David Brooks a conservative? That’s like saying McCain is conservative. I read his columns regularly and he’s no conservative that I share any views with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brooks_%28journalist%29

Even wikipedia bears this out:

Brooks explains that the Republican Party must distance itself from the minimal-government conservative principles that had arisen during the Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan eras. He claims that these outdated concepts had served their purposes and should no longer be embraced by Republicans in order to win elections.

So, he’s pro big government?

Brooks has been a frequent admirer of President Barack Obama

Yeah, all my conservative friends are big fans of Barry…

He has also expressed strong support for gun control.

Need I say more?

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]
Listen to David Brooks, a well-known conservative voice. Even he admits that Republicans are hell bent on obstruction.

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11206

I would much rather listen to reason that the one liners from the likes of Palin, Beck and Limbaugh.[/quote]

David Brooks a conservative? That’s like saying McCain is conservative. I read his columns regularly and he’s no conservative that I share any views with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brooks_%28journalist%29

Even wikipedia bears this out:

Brooks explains that the Republican Party must distance itself from the minimal-government conservative principles that had arisen during the Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan eras. He claims that these outdated concepts had served their purposes and should no longer be embraced by Republicans in order to win elections.

So, he’s pro big government?

Brooks has been a frequent admirer of President Barack Obama

Yeah, all my conservative friends are big fans of Barry…

He has also expressed strong support for gun control.

Need I say more?

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]
Listen to David Brooks, a well-known conservative voice. Even he admits that Republicans are hell bent on obstruction.

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11206

I would much rather listen to reason that the one liners from the likes of Palin, Beck and Limbaugh.[/quote]

David Brooks a conservative? That’s like saying McCain is conservative. I read his columns regularly and he’s no conservative that I share any views with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brooks_%28journalist%29

Even wikipedia bears this out:

Brooks explains that the Republican Party must distance itself from the minimal-government conservative principles that had arisen during the Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan eras. He claims that these outdated concepts had served their purposes and should no longer be embraced by Republicans in order to win elections.

So, he’s pro big government?

Brooks has been a frequent admirer of President Barack Obama

Yeah, all my conservative friends are big fans of Barry…

He has also expressed strong support for gun control.

Need I say more?

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]
Listen to David Brooks, a well-known conservative voice. Even he admits that Republicans are hell bent on obstruction.

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11206

I would much rather listen to reason that the one liners from the likes of Palin, Beck and Limbaugh.[/quote]

David Brooks a conservative? That’s like saying McCain is conservative. I read his columns regularly and he’s no conservative that I share any views with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brooks_%28journalist%29

Even wikipedia bears this out:

Brooks explains that the Republican Party must distance itself from the minimal-government conservative principles that had arisen during the Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan eras. He claims that these outdated concepts had served their purposes and should no longer be embraced by Republicans in order to win elections.

So, he’s pro big government?

Brooks has been a frequent admirer of President Barack Obama

Yeah, all my conservative friends are big fans of Barry…

He has also expressed strong support for gun control.

Need I say more?

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]
Listen to David Brooks, a well-known conservative voice. Even he admits that Republicans are hell bent on obstruction.

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11206

I would much rather listen to reason that the one liners from the likes of Palin, Beck and Limbaugh.[/quote]

David Brooks a conservative? That’s like saying McCain is conservative. I read his columns regularly and he’s no conservative that I share any views with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brooks_%28journalist%29

Even wikipedia bears this out:

Brooks explains that the Republican Party must distance itself from the minimal-government conservative principles that had arisen during the Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan eras. He claims that these outdated concepts had served their purposes and should no longer be embraced by Republicans in order to win elections.

So, he’s pro big government?

Brooks has been a frequent admirer of President Barack Obama

Yeah, all my conservative friends are big fans of Barry…

He has also expressed strong support for gun control.

Need I say more?

[briansd1]

[quote=meadandale]
David Brooks a conservative? That’s like saying McCain is conservative. I read his columns regularly and he’s no conservative that I share any views with.
[/quote]

Please give us examples of some conservatives that you do share views with.

[briansd1]

[quote=meadandale]
David Brooks a conservative? That’s like saying McCain is conservative. I read his columns regularly and he’s no conservative that I share any views with.
[/quote]

Please give us examples of some conservatives that you do share views with.

[briansd1]

[quote=meadandale]
David Brooks a conservative? That’s like saying McCain is conservative. I read his columns regularly and he’s no conservative that I share any views with.
[/quote]

Please give us examples of some conservatives that you do share views with.

[briansd1]

[quote=meadandale]
David Brooks a conservative? That’s like saying McCain is conservative. I read his columns regularly and he’s no conservative that I share any views with.
[/quote]

Please give us examples of some conservatives that you do share views with.

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