OT: I hate buying and haggling for a new car…And why Edmunds, TrueCar,etc is worthless imho

[Hobie]

Price fixing is the ‘invoice’ price.

[poorgradstudent]

You’re in a good position as it sounds like you don’t need to buy a car tomorrow. You know the market, it’s probably time to set your price, make the offer to multiple dealers and see who bites. You’re right that there are perverse incentives that either make dealerships super willing to negotiate at the end of the month, or totally ambivalent if they have hit their numbers already.

[poorgradstudent]

[quote=harvey]Most car buyers don’t even consider price and only consider payments. For this reason it’s very plausible that TrueCar buyers typically get a better price than average. [/quote]

This explains why the last time I bought a car I basically had to yell at the guy to stop trying to manipulate the payment and give me the bottom line figure. It’s fun being good at math and being able to spot a shell game on the spot.

[poorgradstudent]

[quote=The-Shoveler]I don’t think I will ever buy a new car or any car from a dealer again.

Just my personal experience, I never seem to be able to get a deal at a dealer.
[/quote]

Both of our cars were of the 6,000 mile “used” variety. One was a car that was purchased, driven around for a while, and returned when they didn’t like it. The other I believe had been a loaner.

I’ve encountered way more flexibility on the price of used cars vs. new, as they are often happy to unload it for $500 more than the discounted price they paid.

[Coronita]

You know maybe it’s just mazda, but I really don’t have any problems with the internet sales folks that I’ve been talking to. They don’t strike me people trying to pull a fast one on me or anything. Most of them have been pretty upfront about things…

They do try to get people to pay the most, but when I confront them with other offers, they don’t try to make excuses and don’t try to dangle these useless payment options in front of me.

Maybe because from the start I asked if they had any 0% offers, and when they said no, I said I’ll be paying cash.

[The-Shoveler]

If you are paying cash you are much better off getting a used car from a private party.

Not many people these days have many thousands of dollars to hand out for a Car so you have less competition for anything over a say 2 or 3 thousand.

[Coronita]

[quote=The-Shoveler]If you are paying cash you are much better off getting a used car from a private party.

Not many people these days have many thousands of dollars to hand out for a Car so you have less competition for anything over a say 2 or 3 thousand.[/quote]

If I were getting a utility car, that’s what I would do. Unfortunately, this is the first production year of the RF and I don’t feel like waiting.

[poorgradstudent]

[quote=flu][quote=The-Shoveler]If you are paying cash you are much better off getting a used car from a private party.

Not many people these days have many thousands of dollars to hand out for a Car so you have less competition for anything over a say 2 or 3 thousand.[/quote]

If I were getting a utility car, that’s what I would do. Unfortunately, this is the first production year of the RF and I don’t feel like waiting.[/quote]

The fact it’s the first production year means you probably won’t be able to get the sort of deals that will be floating around next year.

[moneymaker]

I tried a couple of months ago to get an OTD price for last years model motorcycle (2015). I could tell they were wanting it gone because the quoted price was already heavily discounted, unfortunately they were unwilling/unable to quote an OTD price which is all i was looking for. My strategy was to buy it with a credit card that was offering a special deal and then pay it off. The card had a limit which I needed to make sure the bike didn’t exceed. Unfortunately/or not, the deal fell through. The bike had a top speed that was 40 mph faster than my current bike, so maybe I would not be here had the deal gone through. There’s always next year!

[Coronita]

[quote=poorgradstudent][quote=flu][quote=The-Shoveler]If you are paying cash you are much better off getting a used car from a private party.

Not many people these days have many thousands of dollars to hand out for a Car so you have less competition for anything over a say 2 or 3 thousand.[/quote]

If I were getting a utility car, that’s what I would do. Unfortunately, this is the first production year of the RF and I don’t feel like waiting.[/quote]

The fact it’s the first production year means you probably won’t be able to get the sort of deals that will be floating around next year.[/quote]

I know. That’s fine. Since I usually keep my cars until I drive them into the ground, the way I look at it is slightly more for slightly up front enjoyment amortizes into noise over 15-20 years. lol…

[millennial]

[quote=flu]
I know. That’s fine. Since I usually keep my cars until I drive them into the ground, the way I look at it is slightly more for slightly up front enjoyment amortizes into noise over 15-20 years. lol…[/quote]
Just buy it already, you only live once and you won’t remember the $1k or $2k you overpaid or underpaid on it.

[spdrun]

Real question is, you’re in Southern California. Why in the purple tap-dancing fawk would you choose a hardtop over a convertible?

Fraidy-cat? Mrrrraaaaaooww!

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]Real question is, you’re in Southern California. Why in the purple tap-dancing fawk would you choose a hardtop over a convertible?

Fraidy-cat? Mrrrraaaaaooww![/quote]

Avoid getting a rollbar if on a track. Well at least on some tracks that are looser in rules.

[matula]

Which used car did you get?

[matula]

[quote=mixxalot]I never buy new it is waste of money. Buying used saves TONS of money due to depreciation. My car is better than most new cars in spite of being 10 years old.[/quote]

Which used car did you get?

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