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May 12, 2011 at 9:04 AM #696006May 12, 2011 at 10:48 AM #694834RenParticipant
Your El Al friend failed to mention another very important difference – the Americans have very little training, and that training is ALL procedural. The Israelis have much more training, and that includes human behavior.
The wacky dysfunctional (and insulting and humiliating) American security incidents are too numerous to go into, but my favorite is how they treat returning American GIs. In the case I’m thinking of, they confiscated unloaded guns, but let them keep the big standard issue knives designed for close fighting. It’s “policy”, of course. Whatever you do, don’t vary from procedure.
That’s what you get when you hire and pay for mall security guards, then manage them with a combination of ineptitude and political correctness. At least the terrorists are usually equally stupid, but it’s just a matter of time.
May 12, 2011 at 10:48 AM #694920RenParticipantYour El Al friend failed to mention another very important difference – the Americans have very little training, and that training is ALL procedural. The Israelis have much more training, and that includes human behavior.
The wacky dysfunctional (and insulting and humiliating) American security incidents are too numerous to go into, but my favorite is how they treat returning American GIs. In the case I’m thinking of, they confiscated unloaded guns, but let them keep the big standard issue knives designed for close fighting. It’s “policy”, of course. Whatever you do, don’t vary from procedure.
That’s what you get when you hire and pay for mall security guards, then manage them with a combination of ineptitude and political correctness. At least the terrorists are usually equally stupid, but it’s just a matter of time.
May 12, 2011 at 10:48 AM #695523RenParticipantYour El Al friend failed to mention another very important difference – the Americans have very little training, and that training is ALL procedural. The Israelis have much more training, and that includes human behavior.
The wacky dysfunctional (and insulting and humiliating) American security incidents are too numerous to go into, but my favorite is how they treat returning American GIs. In the case I’m thinking of, they confiscated unloaded guns, but let them keep the big standard issue knives designed for close fighting. It’s “policy”, of course. Whatever you do, don’t vary from procedure.
That’s what you get when you hire and pay for mall security guards, then manage them with a combination of ineptitude and political correctness. At least the terrorists are usually equally stupid, but it’s just a matter of time.
May 12, 2011 at 10:48 AM #695670RenParticipantYour El Al friend failed to mention another very important difference – the Americans have very little training, and that training is ALL procedural. The Israelis have much more training, and that includes human behavior.
The wacky dysfunctional (and insulting and humiliating) American security incidents are too numerous to go into, but my favorite is how they treat returning American GIs. In the case I’m thinking of, they confiscated unloaded guns, but let them keep the big standard issue knives designed for close fighting. It’s “policy”, of course. Whatever you do, don’t vary from procedure.
That’s what you get when you hire and pay for mall security guards, then manage them with a combination of ineptitude and political correctness. At least the terrorists are usually equally stupid, but it’s just a matter of time.
May 12, 2011 at 10:48 AM #696026RenParticipantYour El Al friend failed to mention another very important difference – the Americans have very little training, and that training is ALL procedural. The Israelis have much more training, and that includes human behavior.
The wacky dysfunctional (and insulting and humiliating) American security incidents are too numerous to go into, but my favorite is how they treat returning American GIs. In the case I’m thinking of, they confiscated unloaded guns, but let them keep the big standard issue knives designed for close fighting. It’s “policy”, of course. Whatever you do, don’t vary from procedure.
That’s what you get when you hire and pay for mall security guards, then manage them with a combination of ineptitude and political correctness. At least the terrorists are usually equally stupid, but it’s just a matter of time.
May 12, 2011 at 11:14 AM #694848allParticipantI am just glad that an attack was prevented when TSA at SF airport made me take the shoes off my 5 month old son. He kicks ass and with the shoes on he can be lethal.
May 12, 2011 at 11:14 AM #694935allParticipantI am just glad that an attack was prevented when TSA at SF airport made me take the shoes off my 5 month old son. He kicks ass and with the shoes on he can be lethal.
May 12, 2011 at 11:14 AM #695538allParticipantI am just glad that an attack was prevented when TSA at SF airport made me take the shoes off my 5 month old son. He kicks ass and with the shoes on he can be lethal.
May 12, 2011 at 11:14 AM #695685allParticipantI am just glad that an attack was prevented when TSA at SF airport made me take the shoes off my 5 month old son. He kicks ass and with the shoes on he can be lethal.
May 12, 2011 at 11:14 AM #696040allParticipantI am just glad that an attack was prevented when TSA at SF airport made me take the shoes off my 5 month old son. He kicks ass and with the shoes on he can be lethal.
May 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM #694893briansd1GuestThe airport screening is all for show.
Some countries/airlines require ID input when purchasing a ticket. For example, when you buy a ticket on Singapore Airlines, you have to provide your passport number, which gets run against security databases in advance of the flight.
We do have a program called Secure Flight. It should be expanded to include all passengers.
Secure Flight is a program run by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to better decrease misidentification of air travelers against watch lists. TSA has asked the airlines to collect the following personal information about passengers on their behalf:
* Full name (as it appears on the government-issued photo ID you travel with)
* Date of birth
* Gender
* TSA-issued Redress Number (if applicable)May 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM #694980briansd1GuestThe airport screening is all for show.
Some countries/airlines require ID input when purchasing a ticket. For example, when you buy a ticket on Singapore Airlines, you have to provide your passport number, which gets run against security databases in advance of the flight.
We do have a program called Secure Flight. It should be expanded to include all passengers.
Secure Flight is a program run by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to better decrease misidentification of air travelers against watch lists. TSA has asked the airlines to collect the following personal information about passengers on their behalf:
* Full name (as it appears on the government-issued photo ID you travel with)
* Date of birth
* Gender
* TSA-issued Redress Number (if applicable)May 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM #695583briansd1GuestThe airport screening is all for show.
Some countries/airlines require ID input when purchasing a ticket. For example, when you buy a ticket on Singapore Airlines, you have to provide your passport number, which gets run against security databases in advance of the flight.
We do have a program called Secure Flight. It should be expanded to include all passengers.
Secure Flight is a program run by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to better decrease misidentification of air travelers against watch lists. TSA has asked the airlines to collect the following personal information about passengers on their behalf:
* Full name (as it appears on the government-issued photo ID you travel with)
* Date of birth
* Gender
* TSA-issued Redress Number (if applicable)May 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM #695732briansd1GuestThe airport screening is all for show.
Some countries/airlines require ID input when purchasing a ticket. For example, when you buy a ticket on Singapore Airlines, you have to provide your passport number, which gets run against security databases in advance of the flight.
We do have a program called Secure Flight. It should be expanded to include all passengers.
Secure Flight is a program run by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to better decrease misidentification of air travelers against watch lists. TSA has asked the airlines to collect the following personal information about passengers on their behalf:
* Full name (as it appears on the government-issued photo ID you travel with)
* Date of birth
* Gender
* TSA-issued Redress Number (if applicable) -
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