ot; hobby lobby

[scaredyclassic]

the war on drugs is the gov. affirmatively requiring you to remain sober ina particular way. it feels way more oppressive in so many ways than an insurance reqt…

reading SAYING YES. In defense of drug use, by sullum. this is a book i love instantly. legalize humanity..

[paramount]

[quote=CA renter]
Your right to your religious beliefs end where my rights begin.

[/quote]

State CAR and scaredy (as I recall) from the Altar of the 1st Church of Progressive Secularism.

Of course it’s not likely that CAR and scaredy even realize that they’re even participating in a religion.

But they are. The official state religion in fact.

[scaredyclassic]

Can I offer you a pamphlet explaining how it might not save your nonexistent soul? G-D IS DEAD ..All the worship nowadays is just a funeral service for him…at best…at worst it’s that fat lady threatening the handicapped girl at the gym…

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=paramount][quote=CA renter]
Your right to your religious beliefs end where my rights begin.

[/quote]

State CAR and scaredy (as I recall) from the Altar of the 1st Church of Progressive Secularism.

Of course it’s not likely that CAR and scaredy even realize that they’re even participating in a religion.

But they are. The official state religion in fact.[/quote]

Pretty horrifying that we as a society are secular eh? And governed by reason…

[scaredyclassic]

Not every worldview or philosophy is a religion.

But most religions seem to boot out opposing viewpoints which seems bad if unchecked for democracy

[paramount]

[quote=scaredyclassic]
Pretty horrifying that we as a society are secular eh? And governed by reason…[/quote]

Is this reason you speak of known as science? Or at least backed and validated by science?

[CA renter]

[quote=paramount][quote=CA renter]
Your right to your religious beliefs end where my rights begin.

[/quote]

State CAR and scaredy (as I recall) from the Altar of the 1st Church of Progressive Secularism.

Of course it’s not likely that CAR and scaredy even realize that they’re even participating in a religion.

But they are. The official state religion in fact.[/quote]

I fully support a person’s right to participate in whatever religion they want. But your right to do so ends my my rights begin. Why do you think your “religious freedoms” entitle you to dictate to others what they should do or believe?

[paramount]

[quote=CA renter][quote=paramount][quote=CA renter]
Your right to your religious beliefs end where my rights begin.

[/quote]

State CAR and scaredy (as I recall) from the Altar of the 1st Church of Progressive Secularism.

Of course it’s not likely that CAR and scaredy even realize that they’re even participating in a religion.

But they are. The official state religion in fact.[/quote]

Why do you think your “religious freedoms” entitle you to dictate to others what they should do or believe?[/quote]

I was about to ask you the same question. This reminds me of the circular reasoning argument you thought i was trapped in 2 weeks ago.

[CA renter]

I would never tell you what to do with your body, nor would I tell you what you should believe.

Again, why do you think your religious freedoms give you the right to dictate to others what they should do with their own bodies?

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=paramount][quote=scaredyclassic]
Pretty horrifying that we as a society are secular eh? And governed by reason…[/quote]

Is this reason you speak of known as science? Or at least backed and validated by science?[/quote]

Ick! Theology! I’d rather study fish.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=CA renter]I would never tell you what to do with your body, nor would I tell you what you should believe.

Again, why do you think your religious freedoms give you the right to dictate to others what they should do with their own bodies?[/quote]

I suppose all societies tell people how to live one way or the other and call it either law or tax incentive or religious doctrine and provide punishments large and small to move you along

But just because something provides an incentive doesn’t make it a “religion” just because we say so.

And the constitution seems to want to keep religions out of govt decisionmaking. Maybe if everything is characterized as a religion there will be no basis for gvt. Decisionmaking and gov. Can shrink down to an instinctive amoeba.

[mike92104]

I’m still not understand how Hobby Lobby’s unwillingness to pay for a few select contraception methods is equating to telling women what they can and can’t do with their bodies. Any women who work for Hobby Lobby can still do whatever they damn well please with their body. They just can’t force Hobby Lobby to pay for it.

[mike92104]

[quote=scaredyclassic]

And the constitution seems to want to keep religions out of govt decisionmaking. [/quote]

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . . ”

It doesn’t say anything about keeping religion out of government decisions.

[FlyerInHi]

If not for the constitution religion would be some kind of marketing scam banned by consumer protection. Unsubstantiated claims.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=mike92104][quote=scaredyclassic]

And the constitution seems to want to keep religions out of govt decisionmaking. [/quote]

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . . ”

It doesn’t say anything about keeping religion out of government decisions.[/quote]

What has the US supreme court and the founding fathers told us about the meaning of the phrase “establishment of a religion” over the last few hundred years.

[Author]

Posts