ot; hobby lobby

[scaredyclassic]

i dont really give a damn about birth control, or christianity, or health care. screw it. I’d prefer to see young people just have oral sex to stop babies from being born into unready families. but come on people…this opinion is just embarrassing. we are a nation of dipshits. i wil never ever ever buy anything from hobby lobby ever again.

[FlyerInHi]

Never even stepped foot in a hobby lobby store.

I know people who swore to boycott Chickfilet, but they are always drawn back by some delicious stuff. I’ve been there maybe twice. Nothing special.

[mike92104]

From Wikipedia:

“Specific contraceptives contested by plaintiffs
The Green and Hahn families believe that life begins at conception which they equate to fertilization, and object to their closely-held for-profit corporations providing health insurance coverage to their female employees of four FDA-approved contraceptives that the Green and Hahn families believe may prevent implantation of a fertilized egg (many scientists disagree), which the Green and Hahn families believe constitute an abortion.[11][12][13][14]

Emergency contraceptive pills (sometimes inaccurately called “morning after” pills)
Plan B (levonorgestrel) and its generic equivalents
ella (ulipristal acetate)
Intrauterine devices (IUDs)
ParaGard (copper IUD)
Mirena and Skyla (levonorgestrel-releasing IUDs)”

Read your shit before you freak out people.

[paramount]

Why would anyone pay for someone else’s birth control – buy you’re own damn BC.

(Unless you’re having sex with that person of course…)

I can’t believe this even became a SCOTUS issue – but that’s a sign of how far gone the US is.

[mike92104]

[quote=paramount]Why would anyone pay for someone else’s birth control – buy you’re own damn BC.

(Unless you’re having sex with that person of course…)

I can’t believe this even became a SCOTUS issue – but that’s a sign of how far gone the US is.[/quote]

This was the kind of BS I saw coming when Obamacare was proposed. An endless string of litigation and legislation to define what “healthcare” should be. Instead of putting our efforts into making it actually affordable, we just decided to make others pay for it.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Best laws are made in the courts.

[paramount]

[quote=mike92104]

An endless string of litigation and legislation to define what “healthcare” should be. Instead of putting our efforts into making it actually affordable, we just decided to make others pay for it.[/quote]

Having to pay for someone else’s rubbers is called welfare, not healthcare.

Of course, the case will be made: if we don’t buy the rubbers we’ll end up paying for it anyway when the fatherless baby’s start showing up.

This country is screwed up.

[FlyerInHi]

what’s the big deal? contraceptives are so cheap. Just give it out for free to anyone who wants it. Like toilet paper in public restrooms.

Only dipshit would take issue with that.

[paramount]

[quote=FlyerInHi]what’s the big deal? contraceptives are so cheap. Just give it out for free to anyone who wants it. Like toilet paper in public restrooms.

Only dipshit would take issue with that.[/quote]

ok dipshit – if they’re so cheap then they shouldn’t have any issues buying rubbers for themselves.

[FlyerInHi]

In some countries, they don’t you give toilet paper or napkins. You bring your own, or they charge you extra.

I think we’re more advanced than that. We provide toilet seat covers along with toilet paper.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Never even stepped foot in a hobby lobby store.

I know people who swore to boycott Chickfilet, but they are always drawn back by some delicious stuff. I’ve been there maybe twice. Nothing special.[/quote]

i wouldnt eat that crap if you paid me $50.00

[scaredyclassic]

“turns out that Hobby Lobby’s 401(k) employee retirement plan, according to documents filed with the Labor Department and written about by Mother Jones, is heavily invested in the very pharmaceutical companies that manufacture the products the company refuses to cover for its employees.

Yup, Hobby Lobby has about $73 million invested in the company that makes the Plan B morning-after pill, another that makes a copper IUD, the maker of the abortion-inducing drugs and health companies that cover surgical abortions.

In her 35-page dissent, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg quoted from another case that underscores the importance of birth control to women: “The ability of women to participate equally in the economic and social life of the Nation has been facilitated by their ability to control their reproductive lives” (1992’s Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey).

But the five male justices who ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby just handed employers a powerful tool to opt out of laws they don’t like. Hear that, everyone? If you want the benefits of the Affordable Care Act, you better check out the religious beliefs of your bosses.

How do they feel about your sex life? Are they cool with the monthly birth control pills you take to control your endometriosis? Do they think you or your children should be immunized, or is that against their religion?

The door is now open for all that.”

[scaredyclassic]

Christian prinicples of course when it comes to expenses.

but if it’s finding the cheapest slave labor chinese shit to sell in your hobby lobby, Jesus would probably want you to maximize the bottom line.

And im sure they cover paid maternity leave and all that.

(of course they they don’t…don’t be silly…they don’t give away money to peons who work for them…the y just pay lawyers to litigate for control of of their employyees’ bodies which employees may just not share the belief of their overseer master litigating boss…)…

aside from the expenses of who is paying for whose rubbers maybe there isme swathof Americans who might become disenchanted Christians if only pushed far enough by Christians litigating women’s health issues. maybe not.

i guessthis is democracy in action

[scaredyclassic]

if I’m a christian scientist, can I just provide a reading room instead of health insurance?

some religions don’t believe in blood transfusions…better check with your employer to see what they believe…why should I have to pay for your blood transfusion if it’s against my religion?

“That question is there, of course, because of Jehovah’s Witnesses. This Christian sect was founded in 1872 by Charles Russell, and its members’ stance on blood transfusion is derived from their interpretation of Genesis 9 and Leviticus 17 to “not eat from the bread of life,” as well as the verses in Acts 15:20, Acts 21:25, and elsewhere that Christians must “abstain from … blood.” Adherents do not accept blood products, regardless of the possibility of death. For Jehovah’s Witnesses, receiving blood products may lead to excommunication from their community and fear of eternal damnation.”

seems like there’s no way we can have jehovahs witnesses businesses cover blood transfusions. so i guess you can’t really have that surgery without the blood transfusion. this is going to be really great to have religion involved in deciding all kinds of medical care! awesome!

[paramount]

sex is elective.

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