OT – F as in Fat

[poorgradstudent]

[quote=walterwhite]Schoolkids can’t ski every day. But they can climb the rope do 20 pullups. Pushups and jump about.

America would be less nervous if we were each more powerful.[/quote]
Maybe *you* could climb the rope and do 20 pullups. Some of us were bookish nerds!

But yeah, jumping and running around are good. Unfortunately one downside of No Child Left Behind has been a decrease in time spent on physical activities in order to spend more time on math and science instruction.

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]Schoolkids can’t ski every day. But they can climb the rope do 20 pullups. Pushups and jump about.
[/quote]

Some people can’t do pushups because they are so fat and uncordinated. So pushups that should be beautifully straight become weird contortions that are truly painful to look at. Let’s not talk about climbing rope.

But fat people can lift… so they compensate by claiming they lift 300 pounds, or whatever ridiculously useless number.

BTW, past glory, such as what one could do in college or at boot camp, doesn’t count. It’s what you can do now and in the future that’s important.

[quote=walterwhite]
America would be less nervous if we were each more powerful.[/quote]

Doesn’t having nukes count for something?

[scaredyclassic]

Weakness, mental or physical, breeds insecurity.

Drop and give me 20, best form you have!!!

Why not integrate phys ed into regular classes as discipline for wrong answrs. Jumping jacks for bad grades till you drop. Could enliven the dull classroom. The dumbest will at least be fit.

[Anonymous]

As long as it’s “okay” to be fat, people will be fat.
As long as you can sit in front of a computer or Tv screen and get all your info as well as social contact, people will be fat (why leave the house if you don’t have to?).
As long as misinformation about losing weight is everywhere (like The Atkins Diet), people will be fat.

Fat people die younger. Go to any assisted living facility and look around. The old people are not fat. they aren’t in the best shape of their life, but they aren’t obese. Obese people don’t live long enough to get into most assisted living facilities.

[CA renter]

[quote=Brutus]Obese people don’t live long enough to get into most assisted living facilities.[/quote]

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

Now, where did I put those cream puffs? 😉

[briansd1]

[quote=Brutus]

Fat people die younger. Go to any assisted living facility and look around. The old people are not fat. they aren’t in the best shape of their life, but they aren’t obese. Obese people don’t live long enough to get into most assisted living facilities.[/quote]

That’s what I tell my friends who aren’t convinced.

They might say that they don’t want to live long and that they’d rather enjoy their cream puffs now.

But when time comes they’ll be clamoring “save me, save me.”

[Anonymous]

Here’s what we do: require everyone with a body mass index above XXX (ie:Fat) to spend one hour a day on a treadmill. Hook those millions of treadmills up to electricity generators.

Presto! Energy crisis solved!!!!

You heard it here, first.

[CA renter]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Brutus]

Fat people die younger. Go to any assisted living facility and look around. The old people are not fat. they aren’t in the best shape of their life, but they aren’t obese. Obese people don’t live long enough to get into most assisted living facilities.[/quote]

That’s what I tell my friends who aren’t convinced.

They might say that they don’t want to live long and that they’d rather enjoy their cream puffs now.

But when time comes they’ll be clamoring “save me, save me.”[/quote]

Hmmmm….

-cream puffs, wine, good steak, song, and merriment (a cigar or two, if one is inclined)…

OR

-assisted living facility…

Gosh, that’s a tough choice.

[briansd1]

It’s not either or, CA renter.

You can enjoy good. But lay off the American cheese slices, lasagna, buritos, pizza, sodas, chips, etc. — all the junk that Americans consume.

Sometimes, I watch Jacques Pepin on TV. Now, that’s more civilized eating.

[UCGal]

Hmmmm.

I had a family member recently pass at age 91 ( a month shy of 92). She was fat. She was in a nursing home at the end – and assisted living for a few years prior to that.

My mom and dad were thin and died of cancer in their 60’s and 70’s.

My in laws are not thin or fat – and are in their 80’s. Father in law is in a wheel chair so he gets virtually no exercise… he’s 88. Even before he was in a wheelchair he was pretty darn sedentary.

Oh – and they eat the worst of the American cheeses – that kraft stuff. (Yuck.)

I’m of an age (50’s) that I have a lot of old relatives or dead relatives. I have seen no correlation between weight and age of death.

Lasagna, when made right, isn’t that bad. It’s using ricotta (which comes in skim form) and *maybe* mozzarella. But it’s mostly pasta, tomato, meat (sausage, ground beef)… Both ricotta and mozzarella can be low fat.

Don’t pick on lasagna… I’m married to an Italian who makes awesome lasagna. (And he’s not fat.)

[NotCranky]

I know Brian comes across like a judgmental and pompous hater, but I agree with what he is saying. Clearly, obesity does not increase the odds of living a long, reasonably mobile life, free of prescription drugs or surgeries. It is killing lots of people, or causing them to be chronically sick and drug dependent( with side effects). It is causing many to lose mobility and sometimes body parts prematurely.

[briansd1]

[quote=Jacarandoso]I know Brian comes across like a judgmental and pompous hater, [/quote]

It’s on purpose.

We all come across as pompous haters on here, especially when it come to financial matters.

We disparage ghetto neighborhoods, bad school districts, irresponsible borrowers and spenders who can’t manage their money, etc…

But do we look in the mirror?

It does seem to me that one’s health is more important than one’s house or one’s portfolio.

[sdsurfer]

Am I the only one that thinks that kid from the superbad movie is’nt funny anymore now that he lost the weight?

On another note I feel like the only diets that ever helped me were the ones that directly effected my way of life.

for instance…my wetsuit no longer fit as well anymore and I did not have money for a new one so I ate healthier and cut out some of the beers for a few weeks and now that the suit fits better again I can get back in the water without struggling into that suit in the am. I also feel like losing a few lbs helps me get to my feet quicker when I catch a wave.

I know myself and I would’nt diet based on who I see in the mirror and how big they are. I might think or talk about it, but it would not get done. I really think being obese has to directly effect you in some way for you to do something about it.

Aside from the job and family… surfing is my main gig and I’ll do whatever it takes to stay in the water.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=briansd1]

IMO, obesity is a national security issue. We need to fight it harder than we fight terrorism.[/quote]

except it is easier to fight terrorism, because at least the enemy is foreign and recognizable.

the enemy in regard to obesity is us. it is the massive food and service industry. it is cultural, it is personal attitude.

the first lady has pushed for better and healthier selections of food at walmart, pushed for family gardens, pushed for exercise and weight loss. sounds nice, right? nope, she is a Food Nazi.

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I am extremely pessimistic when it comes to our obesity crisis. I firmly believe the giant food industry has really learned well from the tobacco lobby and big pharma. They are truly in bed with the politicians and they will fly the flag of civil liberties whenever their interests are at risk. Best of all, they have cultivated a perfect scenario where they are able to sell absolute trash that gets people hooked and fat, yet be able to completely place the blame on the end consumer’s own gluttony.

Seriously, if you talk to any obese person, does a single obese person recognize half of the problem is the manipulative and powerful food industry? Nope. There is a lot of shame and self-loathing when you peel away the layers of defensiveness and avoidance. This overwhelming guilt that everything is their fault actually perpetuate the feeling of utter hopelessness in regard to their weight, which means a spiral into more severe obesity.[/quote]

Maybe it’s not all dark in America, these days. Michelle Obama’s Let’s Move initiative is having a positive impact on childhood obesity.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CA renter]

Hmmmm….

-cream puffs, wine, good steak, song, and merriment (a cigar or two, if one is inclined)…

OR

-assisted living facility…

Gosh, that’s a tough choice.[/quote]

CAR: I’m with you! I had a buddy in Rangers who used to smoke a couple of packs of Marlboro Reds a day. When I’d chide him about it and tell him that it would take 10 years off his life, he’d reply, “Yeah, but those are the really shitty ones at the end!”. Can’t argue with that logic.

Memento mori. Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.

Nothing beats a fine steak, a great bottle of red, followed by an excellent cigar (or two). That is what life is all about. Well, that and the sex!

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