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June 13, 2008 at 8:53 AM #222616June 13, 2008 at 10:03 AM #222498TheChazParticipant
“But it makes little sense to plug in an electric car to your outlet in your garage if that power is just being generated from carbon atoms like coal or oil….We need more Nuclear Power plants to be the source of the energy…If we could only get the bleeding hearts, save the dolphin crowd and the earth first people to stop equating nuclear power with nuclear bombs.”
Wait, we shouldn’t equate nuclear power with nuclear bombs? I guess you’d be cool with Iran deingvelop a nuclear energy infrastructure, then, since the two have nothing to do with one another. π
I agree that nuclear power plants are far less the problem than the hippie movement thought they would be, but that’s mostly true because the cat is out of the nuclear weapons bag.
Also, it’s true that plug-in cars are shifting the source of pollution to other hydrocarbon sources, but a major power plant has a better chance of exercising strict emissions controls than millions of individual cars on the road. Also, the whole idea is that over time, we’ll develop more and better clean energy sources, and replace the dirty ones.
June 13, 2008 at 10:03 AM #222599TheChazParticipant“But it makes little sense to plug in an electric car to your outlet in your garage if that power is just being generated from carbon atoms like coal or oil….We need more Nuclear Power plants to be the source of the energy…If we could only get the bleeding hearts, save the dolphin crowd and the earth first people to stop equating nuclear power with nuclear bombs.”
Wait, we shouldn’t equate nuclear power with nuclear bombs? I guess you’d be cool with Iran deingvelop a nuclear energy infrastructure, then, since the two have nothing to do with one another. π
I agree that nuclear power plants are far less the problem than the hippie movement thought they would be, but that’s mostly true because the cat is out of the nuclear weapons bag.
Also, it’s true that plug-in cars are shifting the source of pollution to other hydrocarbon sources, but a major power plant has a better chance of exercising strict emissions controls than millions of individual cars on the road. Also, the whole idea is that over time, we’ll develop more and better clean energy sources, and replace the dirty ones.
June 13, 2008 at 10:03 AM #222613TheChazParticipant“But it makes little sense to plug in an electric car to your outlet in your garage if that power is just being generated from carbon atoms like coal or oil….We need more Nuclear Power plants to be the source of the energy…If we could only get the bleeding hearts, save the dolphin crowd and the earth first people to stop equating nuclear power with nuclear bombs.”
Wait, we shouldn’t equate nuclear power with nuclear bombs? I guess you’d be cool with Iran deingvelop a nuclear energy infrastructure, then, since the two have nothing to do with one another. π
I agree that nuclear power plants are far less the problem than the hippie movement thought they would be, but that’s mostly true because the cat is out of the nuclear weapons bag.
Also, it’s true that plug-in cars are shifting the source of pollution to other hydrocarbon sources, but a major power plant has a better chance of exercising strict emissions controls than millions of individual cars on the road. Also, the whole idea is that over time, we’ll develop more and better clean energy sources, and replace the dirty ones.
June 13, 2008 at 10:03 AM #222645TheChazParticipant“But it makes little sense to plug in an electric car to your outlet in your garage if that power is just being generated from carbon atoms like coal or oil….We need more Nuclear Power plants to be the source of the energy…If we could only get the bleeding hearts, save the dolphin crowd and the earth first people to stop equating nuclear power with nuclear bombs.”
Wait, we shouldn’t equate nuclear power with nuclear bombs? I guess you’d be cool with Iran deingvelop a nuclear energy infrastructure, then, since the two have nothing to do with one another. π
I agree that nuclear power plants are far less the problem than the hippie movement thought they would be, but that’s mostly true because the cat is out of the nuclear weapons bag.
Also, it’s true that plug-in cars are shifting the source of pollution to other hydrocarbon sources, but a major power plant has a better chance of exercising strict emissions controls than millions of individual cars on the road. Also, the whole idea is that over time, we’ll develop more and better clean energy sources, and replace the dirty ones.
June 13, 2008 at 10:03 AM #222662TheChazParticipant“But it makes little sense to plug in an electric car to your outlet in your garage if that power is just being generated from carbon atoms like coal or oil….We need more Nuclear Power plants to be the source of the energy…If we could only get the bleeding hearts, save the dolphin crowd and the earth first people to stop equating nuclear power with nuclear bombs.”
Wait, we shouldn’t equate nuclear power with nuclear bombs? I guess you’d be cool with Iran deingvelop a nuclear energy infrastructure, then, since the two have nothing to do with one another. π
I agree that nuclear power plants are far less the problem than the hippie movement thought they would be, but that’s mostly true because the cat is out of the nuclear weapons bag.
Also, it’s true that plug-in cars are shifting the source of pollution to other hydrocarbon sources, but a major power plant has a better chance of exercising strict emissions controls than millions of individual cars on the road. Also, the whole idea is that over time, we’ll develop more and better clean energy sources, and replace the dirty ones.
June 13, 2008 at 10:26 AM #222507LarryTheRenterParticipantWhat does Iran have to do with nuclear plants in the US?…We already have nuclear power plants so adding more is mainly a political hurdle…
June 13, 2008 at 10:26 AM #222609LarryTheRenterParticipantWhat does Iran have to do with nuclear plants in the US?…We already have nuclear power plants so adding more is mainly a political hurdle…
June 13, 2008 at 10:26 AM #222623LarryTheRenterParticipantWhat does Iran have to do with nuclear plants in the US?…We already have nuclear power plants so adding more is mainly a political hurdle…
June 13, 2008 at 10:26 AM #222654LarryTheRenterParticipantWhat does Iran have to do with nuclear plants in the US?…We already have nuclear power plants so adding more is mainly a political hurdle…
June 13, 2008 at 10:26 AM #222671LarryTheRenterParticipantWhat does Iran have to do with nuclear plants in the US?…We already have nuclear power plants so adding more is mainly a political hurdle…
June 13, 2008 at 3:36 PM #222630cooperthedogParticipantLarryTheRenter:
Why invest all the time and money in nuclear (given the inherent risks) when it is still a finite resource (uranium, thorium, etc.)?
The only viable long term solution is to use the virtually endless supply of renewable energy provided by solar/hydro/wind/etc. This would break our dependence on oil, foreign or otherwise, as well as reduce carbon emmissions and avoid any nuclear accidents.
Drilling for more oil in ANWR and in coastal regions will only supply a fraction of what we currently consume and will not come anywhere near breaking our dependence on foreign oil. Of course, if you run a domestic integrated oil company and are paying $130 a barrel in the open market for oil to refine – the thought of drilling new wells in the US at a cost of $5-10 barrel would result in huge margins & profits, even if it doesn’t affect global (much less US) supply that much. That is why the current administration, oil industry, and the thinktanks & talking heads that pander to them push such an agenda.
June 13, 2008 at 3:36 PM #222735cooperthedogParticipantLarryTheRenter:
Why invest all the time and money in nuclear (given the inherent risks) when it is still a finite resource (uranium, thorium, etc.)?
The only viable long term solution is to use the virtually endless supply of renewable energy provided by solar/hydro/wind/etc. This would break our dependence on oil, foreign or otherwise, as well as reduce carbon emmissions and avoid any nuclear accidents.
Drilling for more oil in ANWR and in coastal regions will only supply a fraction of what we currently consume and will not come anywhere near breaking our dependence on foreign oil. Of course, if you run a domestic integrated oil company and are paying $130 a barrel in the open market for oil to refine – the thought of drilling new wells in the US at a cost of $5-10 barrel would result in huge margins & profits, even if it doesn’t affect global (much less US) supply that much. That is why the current administration, oil industry, and the thinktanks & talking heads that pander to them push such an agenda.
June 13, 2008 at 3:36 PM #222748cooperthedogParticipantLarryTheRenter:
Why invest all the time and money in nuclear (given the inherent risks) when it is still a finite resource (uranium, thorium, etc.)?
The only viable long term solution is to use the virtually endless supply of renewable energy provided by solar/hydro/wind/etc. This would break our dependence on oil, foreign or otherwise, as well as reduce carbon emmissions and avoid any nuclear accidents.
Drilling for more oil in ANWR and in coastal regions will only supply a fraction of what we currently consume and will not come anywhere near breaking our dependence on foreign oil. Of course, if you run a domestic integrated oil company and are paying $130 a barrel in the open market for oil to refine – the thought of drilling new wells in the US at a cost of $5-10 barrel would result in huge margins & profits, even if it doesn’t affect global (much less US) supply that much. That is why the current administration, oil industry, and the thinktanks & talking heads that pander to them push such an agenda.
June 13, 2008 at 3:36 PM #222780cooperthedogParticipantLarryTheRenter:
Why invest all the time and money in nuclear (given the inherent risks) when it is still a finite resource (uranium, thorium, etc.)?
The only viable long term solution is to use the virtually endless supply of renewable energy provided by solar/hydro/wind/etc. This would break our dependence on oil, foreign or otherwise, as well as reduce carbon emmissions and avoid any nuclear accidents.
Drilling for more oil in ANWR and in coastal regions will only supply a fraction of what we currently consume and will not come anywhere near breaking our dependence on foreign oil. Of course, if you run a domestic integrated oil company and are paying $130 a barrel in the open market for oil to refine – the thought of drilling new wells in the US at a cost of $5-10 barrel would result in huge margins & profits, even if it doesn’t affect global (much less US) supply that much. That is why the current administration, oil industry, and the thinktanks & talking heads that pander to them push such an agenda.
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