OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While?

[SD Realtor]

I am very sorry Eugene but I don’t by into this lead by example. China and India are actually classified as “developing countries” and take full advantage of that status. China completes a coal fired power plant once a week.

Here is a link to the 10 most polluted cities on the planet. Tell me why isnt there a US city in there.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1661031_1661028,00.html

If you think this is about cleaning up the world then you my friend are sadly mistaken. If we want to clean the world then the majority of the damn world needs to play by the SAME rules. This is about expanding government, expanding the tax revenue base, and redistribution. Sure it will help some but in the long run, as long as nobody else has to do it, the only thing that will be accomplished is a larger tax burden on the US population and an unfair advantage to pretty much… every other country that will continue to pollute our planet.

If every other nation will do it, then okay I am in. Until then hiding behind some ambiguous status of developing nation is a crock.

[luchabee]

It is interesting to witness the lack of support for this bill from the liberal piggingtons on this board. I guess they know it is that bad.

Today, the Wall Street Journal called this the largest tax increase in history that would impact everyone:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124588837560750781.html

But I don’t understand, President Obama said only the wealthiest US citizens would pay additional taxes?

If people care to, you should call your congressmember. Also, you might want to contact these moderate Democrats who may vote for it unless there is enough public pressure. Here is a wiki page for the current moderate blue dog democrats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition

Just go to their separate page and there is a link to their congressional website on the bottom, where you can call their office.

[luchabee]

It is interesting to witness the lack of support for this bill from the liberal piggingtons on this board. I guess they know it is that bad.

Today, the Wall Street Journal called this the largest tax increase in history that would impact everyone:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124588837560750781.html

But I don’t understand, President Obama said only the wealthiest US citizens would pay additional taxes?

If people care to, you should call your congressmember. Also, you might want to contact these moderate Democrats who may vote for it unless there is enough public pressure. Here is a wiki page for the current moderate blue dog democrats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition

Just go to their separate page and there is a link to their congressional website on the bottom, where you can call their office.

[luchabee]

It is interesting to witness the lack of support for this bill from the liberal piggingtons on this board. I guess they know it is that bad.

Today, the Wall Street Journal called this the largest tax increase in history that would impact everyone:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124588837560750781.html

But I don’t understand, President Obama said only the wealthiest US citizens would pay additional taxes?

If people care to, you should call your congressmember. Also, you might want to contact these moderate Democrats who may vote for it unless there is enough public pressure. Here is a wiki page for the current moderate blue dog democrats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition

Just go to their separate page and there is a link to their congressional website on the bottom, where you can call their office.

[luchabee]

It is interesting to witness the lack of support for this bill from the liberal piggingtons on this board. I guess they know it is that bad.

Today, the Wall Street Journal called this the largest tax increase in history that would impact everyone:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124588837560750781.html

But I don’t understand, President Obama said only the wealthiest US citizens would pay additional taxes?

If people care to, you should call your congressmember. Also, you might want to contact these moderate Democrats who may vote for it unless there is enough public pressure. Here is a wiki page for the current moderate blue dog democrats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition

Just go to their separate page and there is a link to their congressional website on the bottom, where you can call their office.

[luchabee]

It is interesting to witness the lack of support for this bill from the liberal piggingtons on this board. I guess they know it is that bad.

Today, the Wall Street Journal called this the largest tax increase in history that would impact everyone:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124588837560750781.html

But I don’t understand, President Obama said only the wealthiest US citizens would pay additional taxes?

If people care to, you should call your congressmember. Also, you might want to contact these moderate Democrats who may vote for it unless there is enough public pressure. Here is a wiki page for the current moderate blue dog democrats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition

Just go to their separate page and there is a link to their congressional website on the bottom, where you can call their office.

[DWCAP]

[quote=GoUSC]
GLOBAL WARMING IS A COMPLETE SHAM. Until both sides are given equal voice to their thoeries and hypothesis I refuse to just completely buy in to it.[/quote]

I want to know which parts about global warming you think are incorrect, or are not given enough discussion.

Is it:

-That burning fossil fuels releases CO2 into the atmosphere?

-That CO2 is a greenhouse gas which holds heat in the atmosphere?

-That Global levels of CO2 are increasing?

-That Global temperatures are increasing?

-That increasing global temperatures are changing regional weather?

-Or that changing weather is effecting the plant and animal life in that region, altering the balance that currently exists there?

Please dont just spout off about how Obama and the liberals suck and just wanna raise taxes. That is the question here. The above questions address pretty much each point of global warming, and I really would like to know where the big lies are coming in.

[DWCAP]

[quote=GoUSC]
GLOBAL WARMING IS A COMPLETE SHAM. Until both sides are given equal voice to their thoeries and hypothesis I refuse to just completely buy in to it.[/quote]

I want to know which parts about global warming you think are incorrect, or are not given enough discussion.

Is it:

-That burning fossil fuels releases CO2 into the atmosphere?

-That CO2 is a greenhouse gas which holds heat in the atmosphere?

-That Global levels of CO2 are increasing?

-That Global temperatures are increasing?

-That increasing global temperatures are changing regional weather?

-Or that changing weather is effecting the plant and animal life in that region, altering the balance that currently exists there?

Please dont just spout off about how Obama and the liberals suck and just wanna raise taxes. That is the question here. The above questions address pretty much each point of global warming, and I really would like to know where the big lies are coming in.

[DWCAP]

[quote=GoUSC]
GLOBAL WARMING IS A COMPLETE SHAM. Until both sides are given equal voice to their thoeries and hypothesis I refuse to just completely buy in to it.[/quote]

I want to know which parts about global warming you think are incorrect, or are not given enough discussion.

Is it:

-That burning fossil fuels releases CO2 into the atmosphere?

-That CO2 is a greenhouse gas which holds heat in the atmosphere?

-That Global levels of CO2 are increasing?

-That Global temperatures are increasing?

-That increasing global temperatures are changing regional weather?

-Or that changing weather is effecting the plant and animal life in that region, altering the balance that currently exists there?

Please dont just spout off about how Obama and the liberals suck and just wanna raise taxes. That is the question here. The above questions address pretty much each point of global warming, and I really would like to know where the big lies are coming in.

[DWCAP]

[quote=GoUSC]
GLOBAL WARMING IS A COMPLETE SHAM. Until both sides are given equal voice to their thoeries and hypothesis I refuse to just completely buy in to it.[/quote]

I want to know which parts about global warming you think are incorrect, or are not given enough discussion.

Is it:

-That burning fossil fuels releases CO2 into the atmosphere?

-That CO2 is a greenhouse gas which holds heat in the atmosphere?

-That Global levels of CO2 are increasing?

-That Global temperatures are increasing?

-That increasing global temperatures are changing regional weather?

-Or that changing weather is effecting the plant and animal life in that region, altering the balance that currently exists there?

Please dont just spout off about how Obama and the liberals suck and just wanna raise taxes. That is the question here. The above questions address pretty much each point of global warming, and I really would like to know where the big lies are coming in.

[DWCAP]

[quote=GoUSC]
GLOBAL WARMING IS A COMPLETE SHAM. Until both sides are given equal voice to their thoeries and hypothesis I refuse to just completely buy in to it.[/quote]

I want to know which parts about global warming you think are incorrect, or are not given enough discussion.

Is it:

-That burning fossil fuels releases CO2 into the atmosphere?

-That CO2 is a greenhouse gas which holds heat in the atmosphere?

-That Global levels of CO2 are increasing?

-That Global temperatures are increasing?

-That increasing global temperatures are changing regional weather?

-Or that changing weather is effecting the plant and animal life in that region, altering the balance that currently exists there?

Please dont just spout off about how Obama and the liberals suck and just wanna raise taxes. That is the question here. The above questions address pretty much each point of global warming, and I really would like to know where the big lies are coming in.

[luchabee]

The merits of man-made global warming are really irrelevant to the discussion, as even some significant proponents of this bill have stipulated that it will not impact aggregate CO2 levels, given that other nations will be tremendously increasing their impact now and in the future. Further, even if it was relevant, do the potential “benefits” outweigh the extreme poverty this bill will create and a loss of over a million jobs?

[luchabee]

The merits of man-made global warming are really irrelevant to the discussion, as even some significant proponents of this bill have stipulated that it will not impact aggregate CO2 levels, given that other nations will be tremendously increasing their impact now and in the future. Further, even if it was relevant, do the potential “benefits” outweigh the extreme poverty this bill will create and a loss of over a million jobs?

[luchabee]

The merits of man-made global warming are really irrelevant to the discussion, as even some significant proponents of this bill have stipulated that it will not impact aggregate CO2 levels, given that other nations will be tremendously increasing their impact now and in the future. Further, even if it was relevant, do the potential “benefits” outweigh the extreme poverty this bill will create and a loss of over a million jobs?

[luchabee]

The merits of man-made global warming are really irrelevant to the discussion, as even some significant proponents of this bill have stipulated that it will not impact aggregate CO2 levels, given that other nations will be tremendously increasing their impact now and in the future. Further, even if it was relevant, do the potential “benefits” outweigh the extreme poverty this bill will create and a loss of over a million jobs?

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