ot: Bin laden is dead

[jpinpb]

Photos wouldn’t convince me. I heard about this little program called Photoshop that does amazing things.

This is not the first or last time we are spoonfed something that we are to believe as the truth b/c TPTB say it is so and we are supposed to believe them b/c they have always been so fortright and honest w/us about everything.

[all]

Is TPTB an atheist’s substitute for God? The untouchable, invisible force that tweaks things here and there to push the mankind in desirable direction? So, did Osama die and 2002 and was secretly replaced by a lookalike who fooled everyone including 5 wives that the original Osama had coitus with? Are the wives and the couriers part of TPTB or manipulated souls unable to recognize the fraud?

Unfortunately, there is no one controlling the world, except maybe He-Man, who does not care about Osama, Obama or either of us.

[all]

Is TPTB an atheist’s substitute for God? The untouchable, invisible force that tweaks things here and there to push the mankind in desirable direction? So, did Osama die and 2002 and was secretly replaced by a lookalike who fooled everyone including 5 wives that the original Osama had coitus with? Are the wives and the couriers part of TPTB or manipulated souls unable to recognize the fraud?

Unfortunately, there is no one controlling the world, except maybe He-Man, who does not care about Osama, Obama or either of us.

[all]

Is TPTB an atheist’s substitute for God? The untouchable, invisible force that tweaks things here and there to push the mankind in desirable direction? So, did Osama die and 2002 and was secretly replaced by a lookalike who fooled everyone including 5 wives that the original Osama had coitus with? Are the wives and the couriers part of TPTB or manipulated souls unable to recognize the fraud?

Unfortunately, there is no one controlling the world, except maybe He-Man, who does not care about Osama, Obama or either of us.

[all]

Is TPTB an atheist’s substitute for God? The untouchable, invisible force that tweaks things here and there to push the mankind in desirable direction? So, did Osama die and 2002 and was secretly replaced by a lookalike who fooled everyone including 5 wives that the original Osama had coitus with? Are the wives and the couriers part of TPTB or manipulated souls unable to recognize the fraud?

Unfortunately, there is no one controlling the world, except maybe He-Man, who does not care about Osama, Obama or either of us.

[all]

Is TPTB an atheist’s substitute for God? The untouchable, invisible force that tweaks things here and there to push the mankind in desirable direction? So, did Osama die and 2002 and was secretly replaced by a lookalike who fooled everyone including 5 wives that the original Osama had coitus with? Are the wives and the couriers part of TPTB or manipulated souls unable to recognize the fraud?

Unfortunately, there is no one controlling the world, except maybe He-Man, who does not care about Osama, Obama or either of us.

[Shadowfax]

[quote=bubba99]If OBL is dead, any terrorist actions they had planned may continue on their original timelines. If he is alive, all planned actions must be cancelled or executed immediately – before we can get the intel out of OBL.

But if we have him, and have lied about him being alive, everything we get is actionable. If we did capture him, it is in the national interest to make the world think he is dead.[/quote]

While reeking of some Hollywood spy thriller, I actually think this would be pretty ingenious. Make the world think he’s dead, create a bunch of top secret film footage to “paper” the file, and then pump him full of high tech chemicals to make him spill (traditional torture probably wouldn’t produce many results, not that I am a fan of physical torture).

I have no idea if the chemicals exist, but it seems a more humane and effective way of getting the info we want. I can waive my usual respect for civil liberties here with a clear conscience given the person involved.

[Shadowfax]

[quote=bubba99]If OBL is dead, any terrorist actions they had planned may continue on their original timelines. If he is alive, all planned actions must be cancelled or executed immediately – before we can get the intel out of OBL.

But if we have him, and have lied about him being alive, everything we get is actionable. If we did capture him, it is in the national interest to make the world think he is dead.[/quote]

While reeking of some Hollywood spy thriller, I actually think this would be pretty ingenious. Make the world think he’s dead, create a bunch of top secret film footage to “paper” the file, and then pump him full of high tech chemicals to make him spill (traditional torture probably wouldn’t produce many results, not that I am a fan of physical torture).

I have no idea if the chemicals exist, but it seems a more humane and effective way of getting the info we want. I can waive my usual respect for civil liberties here with a clear conscience given the person involved.

[Shadowfax]

[quote=bubba99]If OBL is dead, any terrorist actions they had planned may continue on their original timelines. If he is alive, all planned actions must be cancelled or executed immediately – before we can get the intel out of OBL.

But if we have him, and have lied about him being alive, everything we get is actionable. If we did capture him, it is in the national interest to make the world think he is dead.[/quote]

While reeking of some Hollywood spy thriller, I actually think this would be pretty ingenious. Make the world think he’s dead, create a bunch of top secret film footage to “paper” the file, and then pump him full of high tech chemicals to make him spill (traditional torture probably wouldn’t produce many results, not that I am a fan of physical torture).

I have no idea if the chemicals exist, but it seems a more humane and effective way of getting the info we want. I can waive my usual respect for civil liberties here with a clear conscience given the person involved.

[Shadowfax]

[quote=bubba99]If OBL is dead, any terrorist actions they had planned may continue on their original timelines. If he is alive, all planned actions must be cancelled or executed immediately – before we can get the intel out of OBL.

But if we have him, and have lied about him being alive, everything we get is actionable. If we did capture him, it is in the national interest to make the world think he is dead.[/quote]

While reeking of some Hollywood spy thriller, I actually think this would be pretty ingenious. Make the world think he’s dead, create a bunch of top secret film footage to “paper” the file, and then pump him full of high tech chemicals to make him spill (traditional torture probably wouldn’t produce many results, not that I am a fan of physical torture).

I have no idea if the chemicals exist, but it seems a more humane and effective way of getting the info we want. I can waive my usual respect for civil liberties here with a clear conscience given the person involved.

[Shadowfax]

[quote=bubba99]If OBL is dead, any terrorist actions they had planned may continue on their original timelines. If he is alive, all planned actions must be cancelled or executed immediately – before we can get the intel out of OBL.

But if we have him, and have lied about him being alive, everything we get is actionable. If we did capture him, it is in the national interest to make the world think he is dead.[/quote]

While reeking of some Hollywood spy thriller, I actually think this would be pretty ingenious. Make the world think he’s dead, create a bunch of top secret film footage to “paper” the file, and then pump him full of high tech chemicals to make him spill (traditional torture probably wouldn’t produce many results, not that I am a fan of physical torture).

I have no idea if the chemicals exist, but it seems a more humane and effective way of getting the info we want. I can waive my usual respect for civil liberties here with a clear conscience given the person involved.

[jpinpb]

There is no definitive proof and never will be.

And certainly we can believe claimed wives of someone b/c their word is as good as the government and could never be tainted by anyone in any way, nor be persuaded to saying anything to the contrary. Silly me.

This is why the government “dumped” the body. Who will ever doubt anything they say or do. People can be so gullible.

I never said he died in 2002. Heck, he could be lying on a comfy dead bed now. How hard would it be to get DNA from the family.

Now go back to being good citizens and don’t question authority!

[jpinpb]

There is no definitive proof and never will be.

And certainly we can believe claimed wives of someone b/c their word is as good as the government and could never be tainted by anyone in any way, nor be persuaded to saying anything to the contrary. Silly me.

This is why the government “dumped” the body. Who will ever doubt anything they say or do. People can be so gullible.

I never said he died in 2002. Heck, he could be lying on a comfy dead bed now. How hard would it be to get DNA from the family.

Now go back to being good citizens and don’t question authority!

[jpinpb]

There is no definitive proof and never will be.

And certainly we can believe claimed wives of someone b/c their word is as good as the government and could never be tainted by anyone in any way, nor be persuaded to saying anything to the contrary. Silly me.

This is why the government “dumped” the body. Who will ever doubt anything they say or do. People can be so gullible.

I never said he died in 2002. Heck, he could be lying on a comfy dead bed now. How hard would it be to get DNA from the family.

Now go back to being good citizens and don’t question authority!

[jpinpb]

There is no definitive proof and never will be.

And certainly we can believe claimed wives of someone b/c their word is as good as the government and could never be tainted by anyone in any way, nor be persuaded to saying anything to the contrary. Silly me.

This is why the government “dumped” the body. Who will ever doubt anything they say or do. People can be so gullible.

I never said he died in 2002. Heck, he could be lying on a comfy dead bed now. How hard would it be to get DNA from the family.

Now go back to being good citizens and don’t question authority!

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