OT: Bill Clinton is back. baby!

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How to build your own BattleBot

We have been getting a lot of e-mail asking us “How do I build a BattleBot?” well, the answer is not that simple. You must do a lot of research before you begin. We can not tell you what kind of robot to build or how to build it. You have to do the work yourself. There are many websites with info on the basics, but the final design must be your own brainchild.

Read the rules
The first thing you need to do is read and understand the rules to battlebots. Read them over and over until you have a good understanding of what is and isn’t allowed.
Next you must decide what weightclass you want to compete in. I suggest you start with a lightweight or middleweight your first time out. We spent over $3000.00 on our middleweight Psychotron. We expect to spend about $5000.00 on our next heavyweight.
What type of robot do you want to build? There are many kinds of weapons out there, wedges, spinners, saws, hammers, lifters, etc. Each one has it’s own set of design problems and limitations. A wedge is by far the easiest design but be warned, the judges were really biased against wedges in the last competition. This is a televised event so try to make your robot as interesting and innovative as you can. I can speak from experience when I say noise, sparks, and speed will get you more points than just pinning your opponent against the spike strip.
I would stay away from walking robots, gas engines, hydraulics, and pneumatics for your first time around. Stick with electrical power. Electric is the easiest and most reliable of all the power sources out there.
Once you have decided on the basic design you will need to decide what parts you will use to put it all together. There are eight basic parts to an electric powered BattleBot.
1) Radio control
2) Motors
3) Batteries
4) Speed Controller
5) Drivetrain
6) Chassis
7) Armor
8) Weapon

Radio Control
The radio control unit is the brain of the BattleBot. These are the same radios that the R/C airplane and R/C car guys are using. The new rules however state that only PCM type radios with the 75mhz ground frequencies will be allowed after Dec 31st 2001. So if you buy an airplane or helicopter radio you will need to have it converted from 72mhz to 75mhz. There are several manufacturers of radio control units. The most popular are: Futaba, Hitec, Innovation First, and Airtronics.
Radios have a set number of channels. Each channel will allow you to control an individual function on your BattleBot. You will need at least two channels, one for steering and one for forward and reverse. Additional channels may be needed for controlling weapons. I recommend you get a six-channel radio now because you will want those extra channels at some point down the road. A good 6 channel PCM radio will cost around $300.00 Tower hobbies has great prices on radios but you will need to get it converted to 75mhz. Contact D&M electronics for frequency conversion.

Motors
The motors are probably the most important part of the BattleBot. If you skimp on the motors all the rest of the parts won’t mean a thing. Get the beefiest motors you can fit into your weight class. The type of motor you choose will depend on your drive train. If you want to go the easy route I recommend gear drive motors. The drivetrain is already worked out for you. You simply bolt the wheels directly to the motors. National Power Chair has great gear drive motors all ready to go. They also sell wheels ready to bolt onto the motors. These are great motors for middleweights on up to super heavyweight battlebots. Most of the lightweight builders use rechargeable drill motors. The DeWalt motor/gearbox combination seems to be the most popular. I personally would not recommend plastic gearboxes in a BattleBot.

Batteries
The batteries are the blood of the BattleBot. You need to squeeze as much power out of your batteries in a three-minute match as you possibly can. In addition you must be able to recharge or switch batteries quickly. You may only have 20 minutes between fights so you must be able to get back to full power really fast. Most electrical systems run on either 12 or 24 volts. The new rules allow up to 48 volts, that’s 4 12-volt batteries wired in series. Make sure all your electrical components are rated for the voltage and amperage you intend to use. There are two basic types of batteries allowed by the rules, Sealed Lead Acid Batteries and NiCad batteries. The type you chose will depend on both your configuration and budget. SLA batteries are by far cheaper than NiCad battery packs.

Speed Controller
The speed controller is what takes the radio signal and converts it into electrical power to drive the motors in forward or reverse. Speed controllers are very expensive and sensitive components. When you see smoke pouring from a BattleBot during a match is most likely the speed controller making that magic smoke. Smoke bad, smoke not good for bot. Make sure that you purchase a speed controller that is rated for the motors and batteries you will be using in your bot. It is a good idea to use a speed controller that is over rated just in case you stall out the motors. If you do not want to blow up your expensive speed controller we recommend using fuses between the motors and the speed controller and between the battery and the speed controller when operating your BattleBot.
Some good speed controllers are available from Innovation First and Vantec. Be ready to spend between $300.00 – $800.00 for good speed controllers

Drivetrain
The drivetrain on a BattleBot must be bullet proof. If something breaks on your drive train you are history. Most losses in the battlebox are due to drivetrain failure, so build it tough. There are several different types of drivetrains; Chain drive, gear drive, belt drive friction drive and gear drive motors as I mentioned above. All have their advantages and disadvantages. Do a lot of research on this subject before you decide what type of drivetrain you will use in your BattleBot.

Chassis
All of the different parts of a BattleBot have to be assembled together onto a chassis. Much like the frame of a car the chassis is what holds everything together. Some chassis are welded steel, others are machined out of a solid block of material. Biohazard has by far one of the most innovative chassis I have ever seen. It is machined out of several different types of alloys to make it both lightweight and strong.
Remember that whatever type of chassis you build it must be able to take a beating from the pulverizers and the killsaws.

Armor
A BattleBot is much like a tank in that it is covered with some type of armor plating. Your armor must be strong enough to survive the killsaws and other weapons, yet also be light enough that your battle bot will not be over weight. Titanium is by far the lightest strongest material used for BattleBot armor but it is very expensive and hard to work with. 6A1/4V is the most popular grade. Aluminum is softer but it is easy to cut and drill. If you use a softer material like aluminum we recommend making spare panels that you can replace in between matches. Aluminum has one other distinct advantage, it does not spark. If you get stuck on a killsaw or get attacked by a sawbot like Minion, the judges will not see a shower of sparks like titanium or steel armor would make.

Weapon
Your weapon is probably the one thing that will make your robot stand out from the rest. It must inflict maximum damage to your opponent’s robot without self-destructing. Think of ways to cut, smash, lift, throw, split and otherwise maim your opponent. Remember that points are awarded for aggression, strategy, and damage. All three of these categories can be enhanced by the proper choice of weapon. Weapons can be gasoline powered, electric, pneumatic, or hydraulic.

These are just the basics you need to know before you begin designing a battlebot. I have left out a lot of intricate details that you need to find out by researching and reading. I have compiled a helpful list of links to get you started on your research, good luck.

Builders Websites
Team Biohazard Great info on materials
Cool Robots.com By far the best place for info on getting started
Robot Combat.com Great list of frequently asked questions
A Technical Guide To Building Fighting Robots
Team S.L.A.M. Lots of good info
Puppet Master Robotics
Team Hazard Very good tips for robot builders

Online Calculators
Weight Calculator
Conversion Calculator
Calculator City

Batteries
Battle Packs
Battery Mart
Batteries.com
Odyssey Batteries
Power Sonic Batteries

Books & Videos
Robot Books.com
Team Delta

Motors
National Power Chair Robotics

Speed Controllers
Diverse Electronics Not widely used in BattleBots
Innovation First Victor 883 speed contolers as used by Team Rockitz
Vantec 2 Ch high end speed cotrollers used in bomb disposal robots
4QD UK company, Needs interface like Team Delta’s RCE110

Specialized Robot Parts Suppliers
Team Delta

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Field Surface
Matches may be played on natural or artifi cial surfaces, according to
the rules of the competition.
The colour of artifi cial surfaces must be green.
Where artifi cial surfaces are used in either competition matches
between representative teams of member associations affi liated to
FIFA or international club competition matches, the surface must meet
the requirements of the FIFA Quality Concept for Artifi cial Turf or
the International Artifi cial Turf Standard, unless special dispensation
is given by FIFA.
Field Markings
The fi eld of play must be rectangular and marked with lines. These
lines belong to the areas of which they are boundaries.
The two longer boundary lines are called touch lines. The two shorter
lines are called goal lines.
The fi eld of play is divided into two halves by a halfway line, which
joins the midpoints of the two touch lines.
The centre mark is indicated at the midpoint of the halfway line.
A circle with a radius of 9.15 m (10 yds) is marked around it.
Marks may be made off the fi eld of play, 9.15 m (10 yds) from the
corner arc and at right angles to the goal lines and the touch lines, to
ensure that defending players retreat this distance when a corner kick
is being taken.

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Field Surface
Matches may be played on natural or artifi cial surfaces, according to
the rules of the competition.
The colour of artifi cial surfaces must be green.
Where artifi cial surfaces are used in either competition matches
between representative teams of member associations affi liated to
FIFA or international club competition matches, the surface must meet
the requirements of the FIFA Quality Concept for Artifi cial Turf or
the International Artifi cial Turf Standard, unless special dispensation
is given by FIFA.
Field Markings
The fi eld of play must be rectangular and marked with lines. These
lines belong to the areas of which they are boundaries.
The two longer boundary lines are called touch lines. The two shorter
lines are called goal lines.
The fi eld of play is divided into two halves by a halfway line, which
joins the midpoints of the two touch lines.
The centre mark is indicated at the midpoint of the halfway line.
A circle with a radius of 9.15 m (10 yds) is marked around it.
Marks may be made off the fi eld of play, 9.15 m (10 yds) from the
corner arc and at right angles to the goal lines and the touch lines, to
ensure that defending players retreat this distance when a corner kick
is being taken.

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Field Surface
Matches may be played on natural or artifi cial surfaces, according to
the rules of the competition.
The colour of artifi cial surfaces must be green.
Where artifi cial surfaces are used in either competition matches
between representative teams of member associations affi liated to
FIFA or international club competition matches, the surface must meet
the requirements of the FIFA Quality Concept for Artifi cial Turf or
the International Artifi cial Turf Standard, unless special dispensation
is given by FIFA.
Field Markings
The fi eld of play must be rectangular and marked with lines. These
lines belong to the areas of which they are boundaries.
The two longer boundary lines are called touch lines. The two shorter
lines are called goal lines.
The fi eld of play is divided into two halves by a halfway line, which
joins the midpoints of the two touch lines.
The centre mark is indicated at the midpoint of the halfway line.
A circle with a radius of 9.15 m (10 yds) is marked around it.
Marks may be made off the fi eld of play, 9.15 m (10 yds) from the
corner arc and at right angles to the goal lines and the touch lines, to
ensure that defending players retreat this distance when a corner kick
is being taken.

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Field Surface
Matches may be played on natural or artifi cial surfaces, according to
the rules of the competition.
The colour of artifi cial surfaces must be green.
Where artifi cial surfaces are used in either competition matches
between representative teams of member associations affi liated to
FIFA or international club competition matches, the surface must meet
the requirements of the FIFA Quality Concept for Artifi cial Turf or
the International Artifi cial Turf Standard, unless special dispensation
is given by FIFA.
Field Markings
The fi eld of play must be rectangular and marked with lines. These
lines belong to the areas of which they are boundaries.
The two longer boundary lines are called touch lines. The two shorter
lines are called goal lines.
The fi eld of play is divided into two halves by a halfway line, which
joins the midpoints of the two touch lines.
The centre mark is indicated at the midpoint of the halfway line.
A circle with a radius of 9.15 m (10 yds) is marked around it.
Marks may be made off the fi eld of play, 9.15 m (10 yds) from the
corner arc and at right angles to the goal lines and the touch lines, to
ensure that defending players retreat this distance when a corner kick
is being taken.

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Field Surface
Matches may be played on natural or artifi cial surfaces, according to
the rules of the competition.
The colour of artifi cial surfaces must be green.
Where artifi cial surfaces are used in either competition matches
between representative teams of member associations affi liated to
FIFA or international club competition matches, the surface must meet
the requirements of the FIFA Quality Concept for Artifi cial Turf or
the International Artifi cial Turf Standard, unless special dispensation
is given by FIFA.
Field Markings
The fi eld of play must be rectangular and marked with lines. These
lines belong to the areas of which they are boundaries.
The two longer boundary lines are called touch lines. The two shorter
lines are called goal lines.
The fi eld of play is divided into two halves by a halfway line, which
joins the midpoints of the two touch lines.
The centre mark is indicated at the midpoint of the halfway line.
A circle with a radius of 9.15 m (10 yds) is marked around it.
Marks may be made off the fi eld of play, 9.15 m (10 yds) from the
corner arc and at right angles to the goal lines and the touch lines, to
ensure that defending players retreat this distance when a corner kick
is being taken.

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[quote=partypup][quote=TheBreeze][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Of course, Breeze won’t read the article. It contains all those pesky facts. They do so get in the way of good polemics and propaganda.[/quote]

The facts are that Obama gave a 20-minute economic speech today and the market went up 600 points. The guy is a market maestro and he plays it like a fiddle. TGO the market maestro. It has quite a ring to it, don’t you think?
[/quote]

Wrong, Breeze. Your Lord and Savior temporarily killed the Dow rally. You need to focus more on details, not just the propaganda you are fed.

“Obama Rolls Out Econ Team, Dings Dow Rally”

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2008/11/obama_rolls_out_econ_team_ding.html
[/quote]

Dimensions
The length of the touch line must be greater than the length of the
goal line.
Length (touch line): minimum 90 m (100 yds)
maximum 120 m (130 yds)
Width (goal line): minimum 45 m (50 yds)
maximum 90 m (100 yds)
All lines must be of the same width, which must be not more than
12 cm (5 ins).
International Matches
Length: minimum 100 m (110 yds)
maximum 110 m (120 yds)
Width: minimum 64 m (70 yds)
maximum 75 m (80 yds)
The Goal Area
Two lines are drawn at right angles to the goal line, 5.5 m (6 yds) from
the inside of each goalpost. These lines extend into the fi eld of play
for a distance of 5.5 m (6 yds) and are joined by a line drawn parallel
with the goal line. The area bounded by these lines and the goal line
is the goal area.

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[quote=partypup][quote=TheBreeze][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Of course, Breeze won’t read the article. It contains all those pesky facts. They do so get in the way of good polemics and propaganda.[/quote]

The facts are that Obama gave a 20-minute economic speech today and the market went up 600 points. The guy is a market maestro and he plays it like a fiddle. TGO the market maestro. It has quite a ring to it, don’t you think?
[/quote]

Wrong, Breeze. Your Lord and Savior temporarily killed the Dow rally. You need to focus more on details, not just the propaganda you are fed.

“Obama Rolls Out Econ Team, Dings Dow Rally”

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2008/11/obama_rolls_out_econ_team_ding.html
[/quote]

Dimensions
The length of the touch line must be greater than the length of the
goal line.
Length (touch line): minimum 90 m (100 yds)
maximum 120 m (130 yds)
Width (goal line): minimum 45 m (50 yds)
maximum 90 m (100 yds)
All lines must be of the same width, which must be not more than
12 cm (5 ins).
International Matches
Length: minimum 100 m (110 yds)
maximum 110 m (120 yds)
Width: minimum 64 m (70 yds)
maximum 75 m (80 yds)
The Goal Area
Two lines are drawn at right angles to the goal line, 5.5 m (6 yds) from
the inside of each goalpost. These lines extend into the fi eld of play
for a distance of 5.5 m (6 yds) and are joined by a line drawn parallel
with the goal line. The area bounded by these lines and the goal line
is the goal area.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=partypup][quote=TheBreeze][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Of course, Breeze won’t read the article. It contains all those pesky facts. They do so get in the way of good polemics and propaganda.[/quote]

The facts are that Obama gave a 20-minute economic speech today and the market went up 600 points. The guy is a market maestro and he plays it like a fiddle. TGO the market maestro. It has quite a ring to it, don’t you think?
[/quote]

Wrong, Breeze. Your Lord and Savior temporarily killed the Dow rally. You need to focus more on details, not just the propaganda you are fed.

“Obama Rolls Out Econ Team, Dings Dow Rally”

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2008/11/obama_rolls_out_econ_team_ding.html
[/quote]

Dimensions
The length of the touch line must be greater than the length of the
goal line.
Length (touch line): minimum 90 m (100 yds)
maximum 120 m (130 yds)
Width (goal line): minimum 45 m (50 yds)
maximum 90 m (100 yds)
All lines must be of the same width, which must be not more than
12 cm (5 ins).
International Matches
Length: minimum 100 m (110 yds)
maximum 110 m (120 yds)
Width: minimum 64 m (70 yds)
maximum 75 m (80 yds)
The Goal Area
Two lines are drawn at right angles to the goal line, 5.5 m (6 yds) from
the inside of each goalpost. These lines extend into the fi eld of play
for a distance of 5.5 m (6 yds) and are joined by a line drawn parallel
with the goal line. The area bounded by these lines and the goal line
is the goal area.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=partypup][quote=TheBreeze][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Of course, Breeze won’t read the article. It contains all those pesky facts. They do so get in the way of good polemics and propaganda.[/quote]

The facts are that Obama gave a 20-minute economic speech today and the market went up 600 points. The guy is a market maestro and he plays it like a fiddle. TGO the market maestro. It has quite a ring to it, don’t you think?
[/quote]

Wrong, Breeze. Your Lord and Savior temporarily killed the Dow rally. You need to focus more on details, not just the propaganda you are fed.

“Obama Rolls Out Econ Team, Dings Dow Rally”

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2008/11/obama_rolls_out_econ_team_ding.html
[/quote]

Dimensions
The length of the touch line must be greater than the length of the
goal line.
Length (touch line): minimum 90 m (100 yds)
maximum 120 m (130 yds)
Width (goal line): minimum 45 m (50 yds)
maximum 90 m (100 yds)
All lines must be of the same width, which must be not more than
12 cm (5 ins).
International Matches
Length: minimum 100 m (110 yds)
maximum 110 m (120 yds)
Width: minimum 64 m (70 yds)
maximum 75 m (80 yds)
The Goal Area
Two lines are drawn at right angles to the goal line, 5.5 m (6 yds) from
the inside of each goalpost. These lines extend into the fi eld of play
for a distance of 5.5 m (6 yds) and are joined by a line drawn parallel
with the goal line. The area bounded by these lines and the goal line
is the goal area.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=partypup][quote=TheBreeze][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Of course, Breeze won’t read the article. It contains all those pesky facts. They do so get in the way of good polemics and propaganda.[/quote]

The facts are that Obama gave a 20-minute economic speech today and the market went up 600 points. The guy is a market maestro and he plays it like a fiddle. TGO the market maestro. It has quite a ring to it, don’t you think?
[/quote]

Wrong, Breeze. Your Lord and Savior temporarily killed the Dow rally. You need to focus more on details, not just the propaganda you are fed.

“Obama Rolls Out Econ Team, Dings Dow Rally”

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2008/11/obama_rolls_out_econ_team_ding.html
[/quote]

Dimensions
The length of the touch line must be greater than the length of the
goal line.
Length (touch line): minimum 90 m (100 yds)
maximum 120 m (130 yds)
Width (goal line): minimum 45 m (50 yds)
maximum 90 m (100 yds)
All lines must be of the same width, which must be not more than
12 cm (5 ins).
International Matches
Length: minimum 100 m (110 yds)
maximum 110 m (120 yds)
Width: minimum 64 m (70 yds)
maximum 75 m (80 yds)
The Goal Area
Two lines are drawn at right angles to the goal line, 5.5 m (6 yds) from
the inside of each goalpost. These lines extend into the fi eld of play
for a distance of 5.5 m (6 yds) and are joined by a line drawn parallel
with the goal line. The area bounded by these lines and the goal line
is the goal area.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=socrattt][quote=TheBreeze]

I can’t wait to get rid of this current assclown and get somebody into office who has an appreciation for governance and the good it can do when you’re not soley focussed on fucking 95% of the population in order to benefit the other 5%.

[/quote]

Breeze lets bring back the group that failed to address our foreign issues, what a brilliant idea. What your left brain fails to see is that we have a global problem, one that Clinton had no interest in getting involved in. Thanks to Clinton and his 1997 sub-prime act along with deregulation we have a global masterpiece of mortgage failure.

Funny you say Bush was F%&$*# 95% of the population while benefiting the other 5%. Keep in mind Obama’s initial plan to roll back the Bush tax cuts are on hold. Maybe taxing the rich a bit too much does take away from the creation of new jobs.

While you are kneeling down and praying to your golden statue of Obama please make sure to download a spell checker so you aren’t the one that looks like the @@sclown.[/quote]

CHAPTER I

Down the Rabbit-Hole

Alice was beginning to get very tired of sitting by her sister
on the bank, and of having nothing to do: once or twice she had
peeped into the book her sister was reading, but it had no
pictures or conversations in it, `and what is the use of a book,’
thought Alice `without pictures or conversation?’

So she was considering in her own mind (as well as she could,
for the hot day made her feel very sleepy and stupid), whether
the pleasure of making a daisy-chain would be worth the trouble
of getting up and picking the daisies, when suddenly a White
Rabbit with pink eyes ran close by her.

There was nothing so VERY remarkable in that; nor did Alice
think it so VERY much out of the way to hear the Rabbit say to
itself, `Oh dear! Oh dear! I shall be late!’ (when she thought
it over afterwards, it occurred to her that she ought to have
wondered at this, but at the time it all seemed quite natural);
but when the Rabbit actually TOOK A WATCH OUT OF ITS WAISTCOAT-
POCKET, and looked at it, and then hurried on, Alice started to
her feet, for it flashed across her mind that she had never
before seen a rabbit with either a waistcoat-pocket, or a watch to
take out of it, and burning with curiosity, she ran across the
field after it, and fortunately was just in time to see it pop
down a large rabbit-hole under the hedge.

In another moment down went Alice after it, never once
considering how in the world she was to get out again.

The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way,
and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that Alice had not a
moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself
falling down a very deep well.

Either the well was very deep, or she fell very slowly, for she
had plenty of time as she went down to look about her and to
wonder what was going to happen next. First, she tried to look
down and make out what she was coming to, but it was too dark to
see anything; then she looked at the sides of the well, and
noticed that they were filled with cupboards and book-shelves;
here and there she saw maps and pictures hung upon pegs. She
took down a jar from one of the shelves as she passed; it was
labelled `ORANGE MARMALADE’, but to her great disappointment it
was empty: she did not like to drop the jar for fear of killing
somebody, so managed to put it into one of the cupboards as she
fell past it.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=socrattt][quote=TheBreeze]

I can’t wait to get rid of this current assclown and get somebody into office who has an appreciation for governance and the good it can do when you’re not soley focussed on fucking 95% of the population in order to benefit the other 5%.

[/quote]

Breeze lets bring back the group that failed to address our foreign issues, what a brilliant idea. What your left brain fails to see is that we have a global problem, one that Clinton had no interest in getting involved in. Thanks to Clinton and his 1997 sub-prime act along with deregulation we have a global masterpiece of mortgage failure.

Funny you say Bush was F%&$*# 95% of the population while benefiting the other 5%. Keep in mind Obama’s initial plan to roll back the Bush tax cuts are on hold. Maybe taxing the rich a bit too much does take away from the creation of new jobs.

While you are kneeling down and praying to your golden statue of Obama please make sure to download a spell checker so you aren’t the one that looks like the @@sclown.[/quote]

CHAPTER I

Down the Rabbit-Hole

Alice was beginning to get very tired of sitting by her sister
on the bank, and of having nothing to do: once or twice she had
peeped into the book her sister was reading, but it had no
pictures or conversations in it, `and what is the use of a book,’
thought Alice `without pictures or conversation?’

So she was considering in her own mind (as well as she could,
for the hot day made her feel very sleepy and stupid), whether
the pleasure of making a daisy-chain would be worth the trouble
of getting up and picking the daisies, when suddenly a White
Rabbit with pink eyes ran close by her.

There was nothing so VERY remarkable in that; nor did Alice
think it so VERY much out of the way to hear the Rabbit say to
itself, `Oh dear! Oh dear! I shall be late!’ (when she thought
it over afterwards, it occurred to her that she ought to have
wondered at this, but at the time it all seemed quite natural);
but when the Rabbit actually TOOK A WATCH OUT OF ITS WAISTCOAT-
POCKET, and looked at it, and then hurried on, Alice started to
her feet, for it flashed across her mind that she had never
before seen a rabbit with either a waistcoat-pocket, or a watch to
take out of it, and burning with curiosity, she ran across the
field after it, and fortunately was just in time to see it pop
down a large rabbit-hole under the hedge.

In another moment down went Alice after it, never once
considering how in the world she was to get out again.

The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way,
and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that Alice had not a
moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself
falling down a very deep well.

Either the well was very deep, or she fell very slowly, for she
had plenty of time as she went down to look about her and to
wonder what was going to happen next. First, she tried to look
down and make out what she was coming to, but it was too dark to
see anything; then she looked at the sides of the well, and
noticed that they were filled with cupboards and book-shelves;
here and there she saw maps and pictures hung upon pegs. She
took down a jar from one of the shelves as she passed; it was
labelled `ORANGE MARMALADE’, but to her great disappointment it
was empty: she did not like to drop the jar for fear of killing
somebody, so managed to put it into one of the cupboards as she
fell past it.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=socrattt][quote=TheBreeze]

I can’t wait to get rid of this current assclown and get somebody into office who has an appreciation for governance and the good it can do when you’re not soley focussed on fucking 95% of the population in order to benefit the other 5%.

[/quote]

Breeze lets bring back the group that failed to address our foreign issues, what a brilliant idea. What your left brain fails to see is that we have a global problem, one that Clinton had no interest in getting involved in. Thanks to Clinton and his 1997 sub-prime act along with deregulation we have a global masterpiece of mortgage failure.

Funny you say Bush was F%&$*# 95% of the population while benefiting the other 5%. Keep in mind Obama’s initial plan to roll back the Bush tax cuts are on hold. Maybe taxing the rich a bit too much does take away from the creation of new jobs.

While you are kneeling down and praying to your golden statue of Obama please make sure to download a spell checker so you aren’t the one that looks like the @@sclown.[/quote]

CHAPTER I

Down the Rabbit-Hole

Alice was beginning to get very tired of sitting by her sister
on the bank, and of having nothing to do: once or twice she had
peeped into the book her sister was reading, but it had no
pictures or conversations in it, `and what is the use of a book,’
thought Alice `without pictures or conversation?’

So she was considering in her own mind (as well as she could,
for the hot day made her feel very sleepy and stupid), whether
the pleasure of making a daisy-chain would be worth the trouble
of getting up and picking the daisies, when suddenly a White
Rabbit with pink eyes ran close by her.

There was nothing so VERY remarkable in that; nor did Alice
think it so VERY much out of the way to hear the Rabbit say to
itself, `Oh dear! Oh dear! I shall be late!’ (when she thought
it over afterwards, it occurred to her that she ought to have
wondered at this, but at the time it all seemed quite natural);
but when the Rabbit actually TOOK A WATCH OUT OF ITS WAISTCOAT-
POCKET, and looked at it, and then hurried on, Alice started to
her feet, for it flashed across her mind that she had never
before seen a rabbit with either a waistcoat-pocket, or a watch to
take out of it, and burning with curiosity, she ran across the
field after it, and fortunately was just in time to see it pop
down a large rabbit-hole under the hedge.

In another moment down went Alice after it, never once
considering how in the world she was to get out again.

The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way,
and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that Alice had not a
moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself
falling down a very deep well.

Either the well was very deep, or she fell very slowly, for she
had plenty of time as she went down to look about her and to
wonder what was going to happen next. First, she tried to look
down and make out what she was coming to, but it was too dark to
see anything; then she looked at the sides of the well, and
noticed that they were filled with cupboards and book-shelves;
here and there she saw maps and pictures hung upon pegs. She
took down a jar from one of the shelves as she passed; it was
labelled `ORANGE MARMALADE’, but to her great disappointment it
was empty: she did not like to drop the jar for fear of killing
somebody, so managed to put it into one of the cupboards as she
fell past it.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=socrattt][quote=TheBreeze]

I can’t wait to get rid of this current assclown and get somebody into office who has an appreciation for governance and the good it can do when you’re not soley focussed on fucking 95% of the population in order to benefit the other 5%.

[/quote]

Breeze lets bring back the group that failed to address our foreign issues, what a brilliant idea. What your left brain fails to see is that we have a global problem, one that Clinton had no interest in getting involved in. Thanks to Clinton and his 1997 sub-prime act along with deregulation we have a global masterpiece of mortgage failure.

Funny you say Bush was F%&$*# 95% of the population while benefiting the other 5%. Keep in mind Obama’s initial plan to roll back the Bush tax cuts are on hold. Maybe taxing the rich a bit too much does take away from the creation of new jobs.

While you are kneeling down and praying to your golden statue of Obama please make sure to download a spell checker so you aren’t the one that looks like the @@sclown.[/quote]

CHAPTER I

Down the Rabbit-Hole

Alice was beginning to get very tired of sitting by her sister
on the bank, and of having nothing to do: once or twice she had
peeped into the book her sister was reading, but it had no
pictures or conversations in it, `and what is the use of a book,’
thought Alice `without pictures or conversation?’

So she was considering in her own mind (as well as she could,
for the hot day made her feel very sleepy and stupid), whether
the pleasure of making a daisy-chain would be worth the trouble
of getting up and picking the daisies, when suddenly a White
Rabbit with pink eyes ran close by her.

There was nothing so VERY remarkable in that; nor did Alice
think it so VERY much out of the way to hear the Rabbit say to
itself, `Oh dear! Oh dear! I shall be late!’ (when she thought
it over afterwards, it occurred to her that she ought to have
wondered at this, but at the time it all seemed quite natural);
but when the Rabbit actually TOOK A WATCH OUT OF ITS WAISTCOAT-
POCKET, and looked at it, and then hurried on, Alice started to
her feet, for it flashed across her mind that she had never
before seen a rabbit with either a waistcoat-pocket, or a watch to
take out of it, and burning with curiosity, she ran across the
field after it, and fortunately was just in time to see it pop
down a large rabbit-hole under the hedge.

In another moment down went Alice after it, never once
considering how in the world she was to get out again.

The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way,
and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that Alice had not a
moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself
falling down a very deep well.

Either the well was very deep, or she fell very slowly, for she
had plenty of time as she went down to look about her and to
wonder what was going to happen next. First, she tried to look
down and make out what she was coming to, but it was too dark to
see anything; then she looked at the sides of the well, and
noticed that they were filled with cupboards and book-shelves;
here and there she saw maps and pictures hung upon pegs. She
took down a jar from one of the shelves as she passed; it was
labelled `ORANGE MARMALADE’, but to her great disappointment it
was empty: she did not like to drop the jar for fear of killing
somebody, so managed to put it into one of the cupboards as she
fell past it.

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