OT – Alcoholism and Addiction

[scaredyclassic]

True. Aerobic exercise is addictive and bad for you in excess. Interesting research about endurance athletes getting struck down w cancers from unnatural stresses and strains. Lances testicle was not an anomaly. The research is scary. Better to runfor an hour do a few pushups and knock back a few drinks. The ironmen are as nuts as the boozehounds

[moneymaker]

I think alcoholism is as common as DUI’s and not really talked about much. I’m leaning toward walterwhite as far as consumption may have side benefits(in moderation), surprised he has not gotten more heat for this view. It would be interesting to see if Mormon’s or other non alcohol drinkers live longer or have better health in general. I had 2 hard core alcoholic uncles who eventually both died before they were 50. Now I have a half brother who is afflicted. I too have a hard time calling it a disease when it is based on what people voluntarily put into their bodies. I’m sure it does alter metabolic pathways and there are cravings, but it does come down to choice. When I was in the Marine Corps I decided to get drunk one night, so I sat down with 2 pitchers and drank them both, walked back to the barracks,barely, but had not accomplished my goal to drink to the point of passing out. Now when I was in the Corps I did come across a few alcoholics but thankfully I didn’t receive that gene I guess. I will have a couple of beers occasionally and then get tired and quit. Most alcoholic that I’ve know will actually get energized by alcohol, which is a depressant, I guess their bodies are better at burning the alcohol than mine.

[moneymaker]

I think alcoholism is as common as DUI’s and not really talked about much. I’m leaning toward walterwhite as far as consumption may have side benefits(in moderation), surprised he has not gotten more heat for this view. It would be interesting to see if Mormon’s or other non alcohol drinkers live longer or have better health in general. I had 2 hard core alcoholic uncles who eventually both died before they were 50. Now I have a half brother who is afflicted. I too have a hard time calling it a disease when it is based on what people voluntarily put into their bodies. I’m sure it does alter metabolic pathways and there are cravings, but it does come down to choice. When I was in the Marine Corps I decided to get drunk one night, so I sat down with 2 pitchers and drank them both, walked back to the barracks,barely, but had not accomplished my goal to drink to the point of passing out. Now when I was in the Corps I did come across a few alcoholics but thankfully I didn’t receive that gene I guess. I will have a couple of beers occasionally and then get tired and quit. Most alcoholic that I’ve know will actually get energized by alcohol, which is a depressant, I guess their bodies are better at burning the alcohol than mine.

[moneymaker]

I think alcoholism is as common as DUI’s and not really talked about much. I’m leaning toward walterwhite as far as consumption may have side benefits(in moderation), surprised he has not gotten more heat for this view. It would be interesting to see if Mormon’s or other non alcohol drinkers live longer or have better health in general. I had 2 hard core alcoholic uncles who eventually both died before they were 50. Now I have a half brother who is afflicted. I too have a hard time calling it a disease when it is based on what people voluntarily put into their bodies. I’m sure it does alter metabolic pathways and there are cravings, but it does come down to choice. When I was in the Marine Corps I decided to get drunk one night, so I sat down with 2 pitchers and drank them both, walked back to the barracks,barely, but had not accomplished my goal to drink to the point of passing out. Now when I was in the Corps I did come across a few alcoholics but thankfully I didn’t receive that gene I guess. I will have a couple of beers occasionally and then get tired and quit. Most alcoholic that I’ve know will actually get energized by alcohol, which is a depressant, I guess their bodies are better at burning the alcohol than mine.

[moneymaker]

I think alcoholism is as common as DUI’s and not really talked about much. I’m leaning toward walterwhite as far as consumption may have side benefits(in moderation), surprised he has not gotten more heat for this view. It would be interesting to see if Mormon’s or other non alcohol drinkers live longer or have better health in general. I had 2 hard core alcoholic uncles who eventually both died before they were 50. Now I have a half brother who is afflicted. I too have a hard time calling it a disease when it is based on what people voluntarily put into their bodies. I’m sure it does alter metabolic pathways and there are cravings, but it does come down to choice. When I was in the Marine Corps I decided to get drunk one night, so I sat down with 2 pitchers and drank them both, walked back to the barracks,barely, but had not accomplished my goal to drink to the point of passing out. Now when I was in the Corps I did come across a few alcoholics but thankfully I didn’t receive that gene I guess. I will have a couple of beers occasionally and then get tired and quit. Most alcoholic that I’ve know will actually get energized by alcohol, which is a depressant, I guess their bodies are better at burning the alcohol than mine.

[moneymaker]

I think alcoholism is as common as DUI’s and not really talked about much. I’m leaning toward walterwhite as far as consumption may have side benefits(in moderation), surprised he has not gotten more heat for this view. It would be interesting to see if Mormon’s or other non alcohol drinkers live longer or have better health in general. I had 2 hard core alcoholic uncles who eventually both died before they were 50. Now I have a half brother who is afflicted. I too have a hard time calling it a disease when it is based on what people voluntarily put into their bodies. I’m sure it does alter metabolic pathways and there are cravings, but it does come down to choice. When I was in the Marine Corps I decided to get drunk one night, so I sat down with 2 pitchers and drank them both, walked back to the barracks,barely, but had not accomplished my goal to drink to the point of passing out. Now when I was in the Corps I did come across a few alcoholics but thankfully I didn’t receive that gene I guess. I will have a couple of beers occasionally and then get tired and quit. Most alcoholic that I’ve know will actually get energized by alcohol, which is a depressant, I guess their bodies are better at burning the alcohol than mine.

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]even before the latest research confirming that moderate drinking extends life, I always told my wife that my position is that alcohol is very good for the blood, and that people were meant to drink alcohol to thin out and relax the blood and arteries. i think it’s pretty much proven now that this is true.
[/quote]

Doesn’t an aspirin do the same?

[quote=walterwhite]
your humors can get severely oout of whack without proper alcohol intake.[/quote]

My thinking is that the French have is right about enjoying life and moderation. Even teenagers are given wine (diluted) for dinner.

But if you need alcohol or coffee or other stimulant to feel in a good mood, then something is wrong.

I have a friend on anti-depressant drug for life. it would be better to work-out, do new things, and change lifestyle instead of doing the same things, remaining depressed and popping pills.

Sometimes, I go to bars with friends. I’m frequently the designated driver because I don’t need to drink to feel at ease. Some people are really unconfortable and need to drink in order to loosen up.

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]even before the latest research confirming that moderate drinking extends life, I always told my wife that my position is that alcohol is very good for the blood, and that people were meant to drink alcohol to thin out and relax the blood and arteries. i think it’s pretty much proven now that this is true.
[/quote]

Doesn’t an aspirin do the same?

[quote=walterwhite]
your humors can get severely oout of whack without proper alcohol intake.[/quote]

My thinking is that the French have is right about enjoying life and moderation. Even teenagers are given wine (diluted) for dinner.

But if you need alcohol or coffee or other stimulant to feel in a good mood, then something is wrong.

I have a friend on anti-depressant drug for life. it would be better to work-out, do new things, and change lifestyle instead of doing the same things, remaining depressed and popping pills.

Sometimes, I go to bars with friends. I’m frequently the designated driver because I don’t need to drink to feel at ease. Some people are really unconfortable and need to drink in order to loosen up.

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]even before the latest research confirming that moderate drinking extends life, I always told my wife that my position is that alcohol is very good for the blood, and that people were meant to drink alcohol to thin out and relax the blood and arteries. i think it’s pretty much proven now that this is true.
[/quote]

Doesn’t an aspirin do the same?

[quote=walterwhite]
your humors can get severely oout of whack without proper alcohol intake.[/quote]

My thinking is that the French have is right about enjoying life and moderation. Even teenagers are given wine (diluted) for dinner.

But if you need alcohol or coffee or other stimulant to feel in a good mood, then something is wrong.

I have a friend on anti-depressant drug for life. it would be better to work-out, do new things, and change lifestyle instead of doing the same things, remaining depressed and popping pills.

Sometimes, I go to bars with friends. I’m frequently the designated driver because I don’t need to drink to feel at ease. Some people are really unconfortable and need to drink in order to loosen up.

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]even before the latest research confirming that moderate drinking extends life, I always told my wife that my position is that alcohol is very good for the blood, and that people were meant to drink alcohol to thin out and relax the blood and arteries. i think it’s pretty much proven now that this is true.
[/quote]

Doesn’t an aspirin do the same?

[quote=walterwhite]
your humors can get severely oout of whack without proper alcohol intake.[/quote]

My thinking is that the French have is right about enjoying life and moderation. Even teenagers are given wine (diluted) for dinner.

But if you need alcohol or coffee or other stimulant to feel in a good mood, then something is wrong.

I have a friend on anti-depressant drug for life. it would be better to work-out, do new things, and change lifestyle instead of doing the same things, remaining depressed and popping pills.

Sometimes, I go to bars with friends. I’m frequently the designated driver because I don’t need to drink to feel at ease. Some people are really unconfortable and need to drink in order to loosen up.

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]even before the latest research confirming that moderate drinking extends life, I always told my wife that my position is that alcohol is very good for the blood, and that people were meant to drink alcohol to thin out and relax the blood and arteries. i think it’s pretty much proven now that this is true.
[/quote]

Doesn’t an aspirin do the same?

[quote=walterwhite]
your humors can get severely oout of whack without proper alcohol intake.[/quote]

My thinking is that the French have is right about enjoying life and moderation. Even teenagers are given wine (diluted) for dinner.

But if you need alcohol or coffee or other stimulant to feel in a good mood, then something is wrong.

I have a friend on anti-depressant drug for life. it would be better to work-out, do new things, and change lifestyle instead of doing the same things, remaining depressed and popping pills.

Sometimes, I go to bars with friends. I’m frequently the designated driver because I don’t need to drink to feel at ease. Some people are really unconfortable and need to drink in order to loosen up.

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=threadkiller] It would be interesting to see if Mormon’s or other non alcohol drinkers live longer or have better health in general.[/quote]

This one’s already been answered… they do not (live longer, anyway):

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2014332,00.html

In fact, according to that study, even heavy drinkers outlive non-drinkers.

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=threadkiller] It would be interesting to see if Mormon’s or other non alcohol drinkers live longer or have better health in general.[/quote]

This one’s already been answered… they do not (live longer, anyway):

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2014332,00.html

In fact, according to that study, even heavy drinkers outlive non-drinkers.

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=threadkiller] It would be interesting to see if Mormon’s or other non alcohol drinkers live longer or have better health in general.[/quote]

This one’s already been answered… they do not (live longer, anyway):

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2014332,00.html

In fact, according to that study, even heavy drinkers outlive non-drinkers.

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=threadkiller] It would be interesting to see if Mormon’s or other non alcohol drinkers live longer or have better health in general.[/quote]

This one’s already been answered… they do not (live longer, anyway):

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2014332,00.html

In fact, according to that study, even heavy drinkers outlive non-drinkers.

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