OT – Alcoholism and Addiction

[NotCranky]

I can’t stop you from taking that as something like a final word,JP. Too me it is not really there yet scientifically, and maybe never will be.

[zk]

One more thing you might be able to do. I think I read somewhere that this sometimes has a positive effect.

Some people don’t realize how they behave when they’re drunk. They think, “I had a good time last night.” But what they don’t remember about last night is how drunk they really were or what they did. They don’t realize that they have a problem because they don’t know how drunk they get or how ridiculous they act. So if you videotape their awful behavior and show it to them when they’re sober, sometimes their reaction will be, “holy crap! All I remember was having a good time. I had no idea I turned into a slobbering, staggering, falling-down moron.”

As many here have said, it’s only when the alcoholic really decides to stop that there’s any chance he’ll stop. And sometimes they don’t decide to stop because they really don’t think there’s a problem. Occasionally, seeing that they get way drunker and stupider than they think they do will help them realize that they do have a problem and help them to decide to stop.

[zk]

One more thing you might be able to do. I think I read somewhere that this sometimes has a positive effect.

Some people don’t realize how they behave when they’re drunk. They think, “I had a good time last night.” But what they don’t remember about last night is how drunk they really were or what they did. They don’t realize that they have a problem because they don’t know how drunk they get or how ridiculous they act. So if you videotape their awful behavior and show it to them when they’re sober, sometimes their reaction will be, “holy crap! All I remember was having a good time. I had no idea I turned into a slobbering, staggering, falling-down moron.”

As many here have said, it’s only when the alcoholic really decides to stop that there’s any chance he’ll stop. And sometimes they don’t decide to stop because they really don’t think there’s a problem. Occasionally, seeing that they get way drunker and stupider than they think they do will help them realize that they do have a problem and help them to decide to stop.

[zk]

One more thing you might be able to do. I think I read somewhere that this sometimes has a positive effect.

Some people don’t realize how they behave when they’re drunk. They think, “I had a good time last night.” But what they don’t remember about last night is how drunk they really were or what they did. They don’t realize that they have a problem because they don’t know how drunk they get or how ridiculous they act. So if you videotape their awful behavior and show it to them when they’re sober, sometimes their reaction will be, “holy crap! All I remember was having a good time. I had no idea I turned into a slobbering, staggering, falling-down moron.”

As many here have said, it’s only when the alcoholic really decides to stop that there’s any chance he’ll stop. And sometimes they don’t decide to stop because they really don’t think there’s a problem. Occasionally, seeing that they get way drunker and stupider than they think they do will help them realize that they do have a problem and help them to decide to stop.

[zk]

One more thing you might be able to do. I think I read somewhere that this sometimes has a positive effect.

Some people don’t realize how they behave when they’re drunk. They think, “I had a good time last night.” But what they don’t remember about last night is how drunk they really were or what they did. They don’t realize that they have a problem because they don’t know how drunk they get or how ridiculous they act. So if you videotape their awful behavior and show it to them when they’re sober, sometimes their reaction will be, “holy crap! All I remember was having a good time. I had no idea I turned into a slobbering, staggering, falling-down moron.”

As many here have said, it’s only when the alcoholic really decides to stop that there’s any chance he’ll stop. And sometimes they don’t decide to stop because they really don’t think there’s a problem. Occasionally, seeing that they get way drunker and stupider than they think they do will help them realize that they do have a problem and help them to decide to stop.

[zk]

One more thing you might be able to do. I think I read somewhere that this sometimes has a positive effect.

Some people don’t realize how they behave when they’re drunk. They think, “I had a good time last night.” But what they don’t remember about last night is how drunk they really were or what they did. They don’t realize that they have a problem because they don’t know how drunk they get or how ridiculous they act. So if you videotape their awful behavior and show it to them when they’re sober, sometimes their reaction will be, “holy crap! All I remember was having a good time. I had no idea I turned into a slobbering, staggering, falling-down moron.”

As many here have said, it’s only when the alcoholic really decides to stop that there’s any chance he’ll stop. And sometimes they don’t decide to stop because they really don’t think there’s a problem. Occasionally, seeing that they get way drunker and stupider than they think they do will help them realize that they do have a problem and help them to decide to stop.

[aldante]

Brian,
Unless he wants to stop he will not. My advice is to see if he feels it is a problem. If he feels it is not but you think that he is blind to his problem – you can risk your friendship and point out 3 or 4 things you see as a problem. If he is not an alcoholic he may straigten up right away. If he is an alcoholic this conversation may save his life (or those he could kill on a highway).
If he wants help there are many resources that I could point to.

[aldante]

Brian,
Unless he wants to stop he will not. My advice is to see if he feels it is a problem. If he feels it is not but you think that he is blind to his problem – you can risk your friendship and point out 3 or 4 things you see as a problem. If he is not an alcoholic he may straigten up right away. If he is an alcoholic this conversation may save his life (or those he could kill on a highway).
If he wants help there are many resources that I could point to.

[aldante]

Brian,
Unless he wants to stop he will not. My advice is to see if he feels it is a problem. If he feels it is not but you think that he is blind to his problem – you can risk your friendship and point out 3 or 4 things you see as a problem. If he is not an alcoholic he may straigten up right away. If he is an alcoholic this conversation may save his life (or those he could kill on a highway).
If he wants help there are many resources that I could point to.

[aldante]

Brian,
Unless he wants to stop he will not. My advice is to see if he feels it is a problem. If he feels it is not but you think that he is blind to his problem – you can risk your friendship and point out 3 or 4 things you see as a problem. If he is not an alcoholic he may straigten up right away. If he is an alcoholic this conversation may save his life (or those he could kill on a highway).
If he wants help there are many resources that I could point to.

[aldante]

Brian,
Unless he wants to stop he will not. My advice is to see if he feels it is a problem. If he feels it is not but you think that he is blind to his problem – you can risk your friendship and point out 3 or 4 things you see as a problem. If he is not an alcoholic he may straigten up right away. If he is an alcoholic this conversation may save his life (or those he could kill on a highway).
If he wants help there are many resources that I could point to.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Rustico]I can’t stop you from taking that as something like a final word,JP. Too me it is not really there yet scientifically, and maybe never will be.[/quote]

I’m not taking it as the final word. I even said:
I’m sure there are many factors involved in alcohol addiction and/or dependency besides genetics

I just think that the genetics is just one more thing added to the mix. It scientifically does explain why some are more prone than others. But I don’t think that is the only reason.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Rustico]I can’t stop you from taking that as something like a final word,JP. Too me it is not really there yet scientifically, and maybe never will be.[/quote]

I’m not taking it as the final word. I even said:
I’m sure there are many factors involved in alcohol addiction and/or dependency besides genetics

I just think that the genetics is just one more thing added to the mix. It scientifically does explain why some are more prone than others. But I don’t think that is the only reason.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Rustico]I can’t stop you from taking that as something like a final word,JP. Too me it is not really there yet scientifically, and maybe never will be.[/quote]

I’m not taking it as the final word. I even said:
I’m sure there are many factors involved in alcohol addiction and/or dependency besides genetics

I just think that the genetics is just one more thing added to the mix. It scientifically does explain why some are more prone than others. But I don’t think that is the only reason.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Rustico]I can’t stop you from taking that as something like a final word,JP. Too me it is not really there yet scientifically, and maybe never will be.[/quote]

I’m not taking it as the final word. I even said:
I’m sure there are many factors involved in alcohol addiction and/or dependency besides genetics

I just think that the genetics is just one more thing added to the mix. It scientifically does explain why some are more prone than others. But I don’t think that is the only reason.

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