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November 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM #484795November 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM #483977
SK in CV
ParticipantThings haven’t changed.
[quote=urbanrealtor]These conversations remind me of the pot-choked discussions I used to have at the Che Cafe when I was 20. The irony that they were able to have these anti-wealth idealist conversations based upon their parents substantial incomes. Similarly, I recently commented to my libertarian friend that the only reason his wife can stay at home is that the US government overpays engineers. The only difference is the subtype of anarchism being subscribed to.
[/quote]Just in case you were wondering, the discussions at the Che are still the same. My son hung out there for most of the early part of this decade, still does when he’s home from school. The same anti-wealth idealism and pro-anarchy meme continues. Not a bad thing, IMO for 20 somethings to be exploring. Some of it will stick, but they’ll get smacked in the face by reality soon enough.
November 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM #484145ParticipantThings haven’t changed.
[quote=urbanrealtor]These conversations remind me of the pot-choked discussions I used to have at the Che Cafe when I was 20. The irony that they were able to have these anti-wealth idealist conversations based upon their parents substantial incomes. Similarly, I recently commented to my libertarian friend that the only reason his wife can stay at home is that the US government overpays engineers. The only difference is the subtype of anarchism being subscribed to.
[/quote]Just in case you were wondering, the discussions at the Che are still the same. My son hung out there for most of the early part of this decade, still does when he’s home from school. The same anti-wealth idealism and pro-anarchy meme continues. Not a bad thing, IMO for 20 somethings to be exploring. Some of it will stick, but they’ll get smacked in the face by reality soon enough.
November 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM #484518ParticipantThings haven’t changed.
[quote=urbanrealtor]These conversations remind me of the pot-choked discussions I used to have at the Che Cafe when I was 20. The irony that they were able to have these anti-wealth idealist conversations based upon their parents substantial incomes. Similarly, I recently commented to my libertarian friend that the only reason his wife can stay at home is that the US government overpays engineers. The only difference is the subtype of anarchism being subscribed to.
[/quote]Just in case you were wondering, the discussions at the Che are still the same. My son hung out there for most of the early part of this decade, still does when he’s home from school. The same anti-wealth idealism and pro-anarchy meme continues. Not a bad thing, IMO for 20 somethings to be exploring. Some of it will stick, but they’ll get smacked in the face by reality soon enough.
November 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM #484603ParticipantThings haven’t changed.
[quote=urbanrealtor]These conversations remind me of the pot-choked discussions I used to have at the Che Cafe when I was 20. The irony that they were able to have these anti-wealth idealist conversations based upon their parents substantial incomes. Similarly, I recently commented to my libertarian friend that the only reason his wife can stay at home is that the US government overpays engineers. The only difference is the subtype of anarchism being subscribed to.
[/quote]Just in case you were wondering, the discussions at the Che are still the same. My son hung out there for most of the early part of this decade, still does when he’s home from school. The same anti-wealth idealism and pro-anarchy meme continues. Not a bad thing, IMO for 20 somethings to be exploring. Some of it will stick, but they’ll get smacked in the face by reality soon enough.
November 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM #484830ParticipantThings haven’t changed.
[quote=urbanrealtor]These conversations remind me of the pot-choked discussions I used to have at the Che Cafe when I was 20. The irony that they were able to have these anti-wealth idealist conversations based upon their parents substantial incomes. Similarly, I recently commented to my libertarian friend that the only reason his wife can stay at home is that the US government overpays engineers. The only difference is the subtype of anarchism being subscribed to.
[/quote]Just in case you were wondering, the discussions at the Che are still the same. My son hung out there for most of the early part of this decade, still does when he’s home from school. The same anti-wealth idealism and pro-anarchy meme continues. Not a bad thing, IMO for 20 somethings to be exploring. Some of it will stick, but they’ll get smacked in the face by reality soon enough.
November 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM #483987Arraya
ParticipantActually our longest and most successful social organization was tribal for about 3 million years(depending on you success metrics). This was universal before we developed agriculture and the concept of owning the earth, which popped up about 8-10,000 years ago. Most likely, weather pattern changes which produced the need for agriculture. Most tribes were egalitarian and everybody had equal access to resources. If anything, that is what we are psychologically hardwired for just by looking time scales. Marx understood this. During this time we did not need “isms”, to be scared of or to revere. Actually, post-agriculture humans became less healthy, shorter and worked 2-3 times more, except for the ones divined by god to rule, up until science.
All our “isms” are of relatively new design and came into play when we realized we were getting jacked over by assholes who said they ruled by divine right. Which started during the earliest forms civilization in the middle east, personified by the god king in egypt and followed all the way up to the monarchs in europe, up to a few hundred years ago.
The US was a leap away from the divine right concept. Of course, we had slaves(which we justified with divine right), wide open land brimming with untapped natural resources, a few new cool technologies and included the mass dispossession and genocide of a people(which we justified with divine right).
November 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM #484155ParticipantActually our longest and most successful social organization was tribal for about 3 million years(depending on you success metrics). This was universal before we developed agriculture and the concept of owning the earth, which popped up about 8-10,000 years ago. Most likely, weather pattern changes which produced the need for agriculture. Most tribes were egalitarian and everybody had equal access to resources. If anything, that is what we are psychologically hardwired for just by looking time scales. Marx understood this. During this time we did not need “isms”, to be scared of or to revere. Actually, post-agriculture humans became less healthy, shorter and worked 2-3 times more, except for the ones divined by god to rule, up until science.
All our “isms” are of relatively new design and came into play when we realized we were getting jacked over by assholes who said they ruled by divine right. Which started during the earliest forms civilization in the middle east, personified by the god king in egypt and followed all the way up to the monarchs in europe, up to a few hundred years ago.
The US was a leap away from the divine right concept. Of course, we had slaves(which we justified with divine right), wide open land brimming with untapped natural resources, a few new cool technologies and included the mass dispossession and genocide of a people(which we justified with divine right).
November 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM #484527ParticipantActually our longest and most successful social organization was tribal for about 3 million years(depending on you success metrics). This was universal before we developed agriculture and the concept of owning the earth, which popped up about 8-10,000 years ago. Most likely, weather pattern changes which produced the need for agriculture. Most tribes were egalitarian and everybody had equal access to resources. If anything, that is what we are psychologically hardwired for just by looking time scales. Marx understood this. During this time we did not need “isms”, to be scared of or to revere. Actually, post-agriculture humans became less healthy, shorter and worked 2-3 times more, except for the ones divined by god to rule, up until science.
All our “isms” are of relatively new design and came into play when we realized we were getting jacked over by assholes who said they ruled by divine right. Which started during the earliest forms civilization in the middle east, personified by the god king in egypt and followed all the way up to the monarchs in europe, up to a few hundred years ago.
The US was a leap away from the divine right concept. Of course, we had slaves(which we justified with divine right), wide open land brimming with untapped natural resources, a few new cool technologies and included the mass dispossession and genocide of a people(which we justified with divine right).
November 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM #484613ParticipantActually our longest and most successful social organization was tribal for about 3 million years(depending on you success metrics). This was universal before we developed agriculture and the concept of owning the earth, which popped up about 8-10,000 years ago. Most likely, weather pattern changes which produced the need for agriculture. Most tribes were egalitarian and everybody had equal access to resources. If anything, that is what we are psychologically hardwired for just by looking time scales. Marx understood this. During this time we did not need “isms”, to be scared of or to revere. Actually, post-agriculture humans became less healthy, shorter and worked 2-3 times more, except for the ones divined by god to rule, up until science.
All our “isms” are of relatively new design and came into play when we realized we were getting jacked over by assholes who said they ruled by divine right. Which started during the earliest forms civilization in the middle east, personified by the god king in egypt and followed all the way up to the monarchs in europe, up to a few hundred years ago.
The US was a leap away from the divine right concept. Of course, we had slaves(which we justified with divine right), wide open land brimming with untapped natural resources, a few new cool technologies and included the mass dispossession and genocide of a people(which we justified with divine right).
November 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM #484840ParticipantActually our longest and most successful social organization was tribal for about 3 million years(depending on you success metrics). This was universal before we developed agriculture and the concept of owning the earth, which popped up about 8-10,000 years ago. Most likely, weather pattern changes which produced the need for agriculture. Most tribes were egalitarian and everybody had equal access to resources. If anything, that is what we are psychologically hardwired for just by looking time scales. Marx understood this. During this time we did not need “isms”, to be scared of or to revere. Actually, post-agriculture humans became less healthy, shorter and worked 2-3 times more, except for the ones divined by god to rule, up until science.
All our “isms” are of relatively new design and came into play when we realized we were getting jacked over by assholes who said they ruled by divine right. Which started during the earliest forms civilization in the middle east, personified by the god king in egypt and followed all the way up to the monarchs in europe, up to a few hundred years ago.
The US was a leap away from the divine right concept. Of course, we had slaves(which we justified with divine right), wide open land brimming with untapped natural resources, a few new cool technologies and included the mass dispossession and genocide of a people(which we justified with divine right).
November 18, 2009 at 12:59 PM #484027urbanrealtor
Participant[quote=Arraya]Actually our longest and most successful social organization was tribal for about 3 million years(depending on you success metrics). This was universal before we developed agriculture and the concept of owning the earth, which popped up about 8-10,000 years ago. Most likely, weather pattern changes which produced the need for agriculture. Most tribes were egalitarian and everybody had equal access to resources. If anything, that is what we are psychologically hardwired for just by looking time scales. Marx understood this. During this time we did not need “isms”, to be scared of or to revere. Actually, post-agriculture humans became less healthy, shorter and worked 2-3 times more, except for the ones divined by god to rule, up until science.
All our “isms” are of relatively new design and came into play when we realized we were getting jacked over by assholes who said they ruled by divine right. Which started during the earliest forms civilization in the middle east, personified by the god king in egypt and followed all the way up to the monarchs in europe, up to a few hundred years ago.
The US was a leap away from the divine right concept. Of course, we had slaves(which we justified with divine right), wide open land brimming with untapped natural resources, a few new cool technologies and included the mass dispossession and genocide of a people(which we justified with divine right).[/quote]
Yeah uhhh no.
Most tribes of hunter-gatherers had/have fairly elaborate (though seldom obvious) hierarchies.The San tribes of the eastern Kalihari (best known for “The Gods Must Be Crazy”) have whole journals written about social hierarchy and how it is hidden from outsiders (partly to avoid social tension).
As if you needed more evidence that I am a geek.
November 18, 2009 at 12:59 PM #484195Participant[quote=Arraya]Actually our longest and most successful social organization was tribal for about 3 million years(depending on you success metrics). This was universal before we developed agriculture and the concept of owning the earth, which popped up about 8-10,000 years ago. Most likely, weather pattern changes which produced the need for agriculture. Most tribes were egalitarian and everybody had equal access to resources. If anything, that is what we are psychologically hardwired for just by looking time scales. Marx understood this. During this time we did not need “isms”, to be scared of or to revere. Actually, post-agriculture humans became less healthy, shorter and worked 2-3 times more, except for the ones divined by god to rule, up until science.
All our “isms” are of relatively new design and came into play when we realized we were getting jacked over by assholes who said they ruled by divine right. Which started during the earliest forms civilization in the middle east, personified by the god king in egypt and followed all the way up to the monarchs in europe, up to a few hundred years ago.
The US was a leap away from the divine right concept. Of course, we had slaves(which we justified with divine right), wide open land brimming with untapped natural resources, a few new cool technologies and included the mass dispossession and genocide of a people(which we justified with divine right).[/quote]
Yeah uhhh no.
Most tribes of hunter-gatherers had/have fairly elaborate (though seldom obvious) hierarchies.The San tribes of the eastern Kalihari (best known for “The Gods Must Be Crazy”) have whole journals written about social hierarchy and how it is hidden from outsiders (partly to avoid social tension).
As if you needed more evidence that I am a geek.
November 18, 2009 at 12:59 PM #484567Participant[quote=Arraya]Actually our longest and most successful social organization was tribal for about 3 million years(depending on you success metrics). This was universal before we developed agriculture and the concept of owning the earth, which popped up about 8-10,000 years ago. Most likely, weather pattern changes which produced the need for agriculture. Most tribes were egalitarian and everybody had equal access to resources. If anything, that is what we are psychologically hardwired for just by looking time scales. Marx understood this. During this time we did not need “isms”, to be scared of or to revere. Actually, post-agriculture humans became less healthy, shorter and worked 2-3 times more, except for the ones divined by god to rule, up until science.
All our “isms” are of relatively new design and came into play when we realized we were getting jacked over by assholes who said they ruled by divine right. Which started during the earliest forms civilization in the middle east, personified by the god king in egypt and followed all the way up to the monarchs in europe, up to a few hundred years ago.
The US was a leap away from the divine right concept. Of course, we had slaves(which we justified with divine right), wide open land brimming with untapped natural resources, a few new cool technologies and included the mass dispossession and genocide of a people(which we justified with divine right).[/quote]
Yeah uhhh no.
Most tribes of hunter-gatherers had/have fairly elaborate (though seldom obvious) hierarchies.The San tribes of the eastern Kalihari (best known for “The Gods Must Be Crazy”) have whole journals written about social hierarchy and how it is hidden from outsiders (partly to avoid social tension).
As if you needed more evidence that I am a geek.
November 18, 2009 at 12:59 PM #484652Participant[quote=Arraya]Actually our longest and most successful social organization was tribal for about 3 million years(depending on you success metrics). This was universal before we developed agriculture and the concept of owning the earth, which popped up about 8-10,000 years ago. Most likely, weather pattern changes which produced the need for agriculture. Most tribes were egalitarian and everybody had equal access to resources. If anything, that is what we are psychologically hardwired for just by looking time scales. Marx understood this. During this time we did not need “isms”, to be scared of or to revere. Actually, post-agriculture humans became less healthy, shorter and worked 2-3 times more, except for the ones divined by god to rule, up until science.
All our “isms” are of relatively new design and came into play when we realized we were getting jacked over by assholes who said they ruled by divine right. Which started during the earliest forms civilization in the middle east, personified by the god king in egypt and followed all the way up to the monarchs in europe, up to a few hundred years ago.
The US was a leap away from the divine right concept. Of course, we had slaves(which we justified with divine right), wide open land brimming with untapped natural resources, a few new cool technologies and included the mass dispossession and genocide of a people(which we justified with divine right).[/quote]
Yeah uhhh no.
Most tribes of hunter-gatherers had/have fairly elaborate (though seldom obvious) hierarchies.The San tribes of the eastern Kalihari (best known for “The Gods Must Be Crazy”) have whole journals written about social hierarchy and how it is hidden from outsiders (partly to avoid social tension).
As if you needed more evidence that I am a geek.
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