Obama gets peace prize for not being Bush!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]Allan, you’re entitled to your opinion.

But if you think that the Nobel Peace Prize Committee made a mistake, you should blame them. Nothing to do with Obama.

If, as you claim, the Peace Prize has already been diminished in your eyes by the awards to Arafat and Carter, then what’s your beef? By that standard, Obama got a “worthless” prize.[/quote]

Brian: This is what you keep missing: I don’t have a beef. I could honestly care less about Obama winning the prize, anymore than I gave a shit about Chicago not winning their Olympic bid (no, as a conservative, I did not revel in this defeat).

Nope, not so much. My point has been to point out the obvious: Obama has done little, if anything, either domestically or internationally (that SNL skit, by the way, was hilarious). For him to be lauded as he has is nonsensical and this prize merely proves that point.

However, watching the liberal-left trying to spin various events as positive has proved far more enjoyable.

My current favorite? Afghanistan. The “war of choice” and the “war we must win” (both according to Obama), has now morphed into the “war we’d rather forget about or ignore”.

Obama’s stern declarations regarding expelling the bad guys from Afghanistan has now moved to his willingness to not only allow the Taliban back in, but allow a power sharing arrangement with them.

You know as well I that Obama will not give McChrystal the necessary forces to prosecute the war the way McChrystal wants and Joe Biden has now gone on record supporting a policy that is a clear loser (drawing force levels down and relying on Special Operations forces and drones) in the eyes of McChrystal (the US Army’s leading expert on counter-terrorism), Petraeus (the US Army’s leading expert on counterinsurgency) and Jim Jones, his National Security Advisor and a former Marine general.

How do you spin this, Brian? He has clearly gone back on his word, he will not prosecute the war in Afghanistan as he repeatedly promised he would and is dithering while American soldiers die in the field.

Moreover, all of this universal “love” for Obama has not crystallized into real support, especially from the Europeans, who refuse to commit additional and very necessary troops to the effort in Afghanistan.

Or, is all of that just “opinion”, Brian?

[briansd1]

[quote=jpinpb]I have to say that I don’t see any drastic changes in policies. I don’t see the changes I can believe in. I’m still having a hard time getting over the bank bailouts and the appointment of Geithner to be happy about Obama. I voted for hope and I’m still hoping, but getting very disillusioned. [/quote]

You have to see the pragmatic aspects of this.

Obama cannot afford to end the bailout policies. He has to keep the populace happy to achieve his goals.

Despite all the grumblings, even from Republicans, the bailouts are popular. The housing and finance industries (big Republican contributors) want a bailout. So do homeowners who are worried about their house values.

I wouldn’t mind if, after Obama’s reelection in 2012, the bailout schemes implode on their own weight and we see interest rates jump to 15%. What do you think that will do to housing prices? People with wherewithal will be able to buy nice houses. 😉 Keep on watching the market in 6-month increments.

[briansd1]

[quote=jpinpb]I have to say that I don’t see any drastic changes in policies. I don’t see the changes I can believe in. I’m still having a hard time getting over the bank bailouts and the appointment of Geithner to be happy about Obama. I voted for hope and I’m still hoping, but getting very disillusioned. [/quote]

You have to see the pragmatic aspects of this.

Obama cannot afford to end the bailout policies. He has to keep the populace happy to achieve his goals.

Despite all the grumblings, even from Republicans, the bailouts are popular. The housing and finance industries (big Republican contributors) want a bailout. So do homeowners who are worried about their house values.

I wouldn’t mind if, after Obama’s reelection in 2012, the bailout schemes implode on their own weight and we see interest rates jump to 15%. What do you think that will do to housing prices? People with wherewithal will be able to buy nice houses. 😉 Keep on watching the market in 6-month increments.

[briansd1]

[quote=jpinpb]I have to say that I don’t see any drastic changes in policies. I don’t see the changes I can believe in. I’m still having a hard time getting over the bank bailouts and the appointment of Geithner to be happy about Obama. I voted for hope and I’m still hoping, but getting very disillusioned. [/quote]

You have to see the pragmatic aspects of this.

Obama cannot afford to end the bailout policies. He has to keep the populace happy to achieve his goals.

Despite all the grumblings, even from Republicans, the bailouts are popular. The housing and finance industries (big Republican contributors) want a bailout. So do homeowners who are worried about their house values.

I wouldn’t mind if, after Obama’s reelection in 2012, the bailout schemes implode on their own weight and we see interest rates jump to 15%. What do you think that will do to housing prices? People with wherewithal will be able to buy nice houses. 😉 Keep on watching the market in 6-month increments.

[briansd1]

[quote=jpinpb]I have to say that I don’t see any drastic changes in policies. I don’t see the changes I can believe in. I’m still having a hard time getting over the bank bailouts and the appointment of Geithner to be happy about Obama. I voted for hope and I’m still hoping, but getting very disillusioned. [/quote]

You have to see the pragmatic aspects of this.

Obama cannot afford to end the bailout policies. He has to keep the populace happy to achieve his goals.

Despite all the grumblings, even from Republicans, the bailouts are popular. The housing and finance industries (big Republican contributors) want a bailout. So do homeowners who are worried about their house values.

I wouldn’t mind if, after Obama’s reelection in 2012, the bailout schemes implode on their own weight and we see interest rates jump to 15%. What do you think that will do to housing prices? People with wherewithal will be able to buy nice houses. 😉 Keep on watching the market in 6-month increments.

[briansd1]

[quote=jpinpb]I have to say that I don’t see any drastic changes in policies. I don’t see the changes I can believe in. I’m still having a hard time getting over the bank bailouts and the appointment of Geithner to be happy about Obama. I voted for hope and I’m still hoping, but getting very disillusioned. [/quote]

You have to see the pragmatic aspects of this.

Obama cannot afford to end the bailout policies. He has to keep the populace happy to achieve his goals.

Despite all the grumblings, even from Republicans, the bailouts are popular. The housing and finance industries (big Republican contributors) want a bailout. So do homeowners who are worried about their house values.

I wouldn’t mind if, after Obama’s reelection in 2012, the bailout schemes implode on their own weight and we see interest rates jump to 15%. What do you think that will do to housing prices? People with wherewithal will be able to buy nice houses. 😉 Keep on watching the market in 6-month increments.

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]I wouldn’t mind if, after Obama’s reelection in 2012…[/quote]

The curtain has been pulled back. MANY ardent Obama supporters in the last election have buyers remorse and will most likely not vote for him again.

He’s Carter v2.0…

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]I wouldn’t mind if, after Obama’s reelection in 2012…[/quote]

The curtain has been pulled back. MANY ardent Obama supporters in the last election have buyers remorse and will most likely not vote for him again.

He’s Carter v2.0…

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]I wouldn’t mind if, after Obama’s reelection in 2012…[/quote]

The curtain has been pulled back. MANY ardent Obama supporters in the last election have buyers remorse and will most likely not vote for him again.

He’s Carter v2.0…

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]I wouldn’t mind if, after Obama’s reelection in 2012…[/quote]

The curtain has been pulled back. MANY ardent Obama supporters in the last election have buyers remorse and will most likely not vote for him again.

He’s Carter v2.0…

[meadandale]

[quote=briansd1]I wouldn’t mind if, after Obama’s reelection in 2012…[/quote]

The curtain has been pulled back. MANY ardent Obama supporters in the last election have buyers remorse and will most likely not vote for him again.

He’s Carter v2.0…

[ucodegen]

This country sure has a bunch of Obama-haters. Seems like “the right” isn’t happy unless he and his policies fail miserably so they can say “I told you so.”

While I am surprised that he won, people don’t have to crap all over him for winning it. It’s not like he was campaigning for the damn thing. They just gave it to him.

I’m not crapping on Obama for winning, I am crapping on the Noble committee for awarding it to him. Every time the Noble committee uses the award to purely political ends, it lessens what the award means. I also think that is really what most of the posters are doing. You can’t campaign for it, you get nominated by someone and downselected to award.

Obama even stated that he did nothing to deserve the award and that there are others more deserving.

[ucodegen]

This country sure has a bunch of Obama-haters. Seems like “the right” isn’t happy unless he and his policies fail miserably so they can say “I told you so.”

While I am surprised that he won, people don’t have to crap all over him for winning it. It’s not like he was campaigning for the damn thing. They just gave it to him.

I’m not crapping on Obama for winning, I am crapping on the Noble committee for awarding it to him. Every time the Noble committee uses the award to purely political ends, it lessens what the award means. I also think that is really what most of the posters are doing. You can’t campaign for it, you get nominated by someone and downselected to award.

Obama even stated that he did nothing to deserve the award and that there are others more deserving.

[ucodegen]

This country sure has a bunch of Obama-haters. Seems like “the right” isn’t happy unless he and his policies fail miserably so they can say “I told you so.”

While I am surprised that he won, people don’t have to crap all over him for winning it. It’s not like he was campaigning for the damn thing. They just gave it to him.

I’m not crapping on Obama for winning, I am crapping on the Noble committee for awarding it to him. Every time the Noble committee uses the award to purely political ends, it lessens what the award means. I also think that is really what most of the posters are doing. You can’t campaign for it, you get nominated by someone and downselected to award.

Obama even stated that he did nothing to deserve the award and that there are others more deserving.

[ucodegen]

This country sure has a bunch of Obama-haters. Seems like “the right” isn’t happy unless he and his policies fail miserably so they can say “I told you so.”

While I am surprised that he won, people don’t have to crap all over him for winning it. It’s not like he was campaigning for the damn thing. They just gave it to him.

I’m not crapping on Obama for winning, I am crapping on the Noble committee for awarding it to him. Every time the Noble committee uses the award to purely political ends, it lessens what the award means. I also think that is really what most of the posters are doing. You can’t campaign for it, you get nominated by someone and downselected to award.

Obama even stated that he did nothing to deserve the award and that there are others more deserving.

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