Obama gets peace prize for not being Bush!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]I didn’t call the sore loses racists. I don’t know that they are racists. They could well be.

But I know that that are jealous and resentful of all the accolades that Obama has gotten so far.

Although he’s Black, Obama is a “golden boy”. So what? As a member of military, you would know that such guys rise much faster than others. Just a fact of life.

I don’t have any problem with people rising through the force of their own personalities rather than the influence of their parents or connections.[/quote]

Brian: Sorry, but you’re wrong. The Army that I came up in (during the 1980s) was a true meritocracy.

I made it through Airborne School, Air Assault and then Ranger School (and all of the other schools, like Scuba, Jungle Warfare, SERE, etc) by busting my ass. In other words, I EARNED it.

Same with football in high school. I didn’t make the team for any reason other than a willingness to bust my ass and make the necessary sacrifices to get there.

Same with owning my own business. Its taken 12+ years of working nights and weekends to get here and without any “bailouts” or “net worth preservation” efforts.

So, you can continue to spin this yarn about how a man how is supporting his predecessor’s inarguably bad policies as far as torture, detention and intervention goes, somehow deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, but I, for one, ain’t buying it.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
So, if my math is correct, President Obama had all of roughly 12 days in office between the inauguration and the Nobel committee close.
[/quote]

Your math is not correct.

Feb 1 was the deadline for the nominations. But the committee’s decision was not reached until Monday, October 5.

Geir Lundestad, who as executive director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute has handled the committee’s administrative affairs since 1990, said the panel met six or seven times this year, starting several weeks after the nomination deadline, Feb. 1.

Any member of a national legislature, any professor of the social sciences and several other categories of people are free to submit nominations, and someone usually puts forward the name of the American president. That was true this year, even though Mr. Obama had been in office less than two weeks when the deadline hit.

This year the panel did not settle on a winner until Monday, Mr. Lundestad said He added that Oslo now faced a major challenge: to get ready for the award ceremony for Mr. Obama, just two months away. It will probably be among the largest civic events in Norwegian history.

Brian: Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! Are you fucking kidding me?!? Oh, gee, I’m sorry. It was OCTOBER instead of FEBRUARY. Oh, okay. So, that’s what, another eight months?!? Oh, yeah, he got a shitload of stuff during that time.

He closed Gitmo, right?

Ended the war in Iraq?

Disarmed the North Koreans?

Pushed back on the Russian’s territorial ambitions?

Give me a friggin’ break.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
So, if my math is correct, President Obama had all of roughly 12 days in office between the inauguration and the Nobel committee close.
[/quote]

Your math is not correct.

Feb 1 was the deadline for the nominations. But the committee’s decision was not reached until Monday, October 5.

Geir Lundestad, who as executive director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute has handled the committee’s administrative affairs since 1990, said the panel met six or seven times this year, starting several weeks after the nomination deadline, Feb. 1.

Any member of a national legislature, any professor of the social sciences and several other categories of people are free to submit nominations, and someone usually puts forward the name of the American president. That was true this year, even though Mr. Obama had been in office less than two weeks when the deadline hit.

This year the panel did not settle on a winner until Monday, Mr. Lundestad said He added that Oslo now faced a major challenge: to get ready for the award ceremony for Mr. Obama, just two months away. It will probably be among the largest civic events in Norwegian history.

Brian: Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! Are you fucking kidding me?!? Oh, gee, I’m sorry. It was OCTOBER instead of FEBRUARY. Oh, okay. So, that’s what, another eight months?!? Oh, yeah, he got a shitload of stuff during that time.

He closed Gitmo, right?

Ended the war in Iraq?

Disarmed the North Koreans?

Pushed back on the Russian’s territorial ambitions?

Give me a friggin’ break.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
So, if my math is correct, President Obama had all of roughly 12 days in office between the inauguration and the Nobel committee close.
[/quote]

Your math is not correct.

Feb 1 was the deadline for the nominations. But the committee’s decision was not reached until Monday, October 5.

Geir Lundestad, who as executive director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute has handled the committee’s administrative affairs since 1990, said the panel met six or seven times this year, starting several weeks after the nomination deadline, Feb. 1.

Any member of a national legislature, any professor of the social sciences and several other categories of people are free to submit nominations, and someone usually puts forward the name of the American president. That was true this year, even though Mr. Obama had been in office less than two weeks when the deadline hit.

This year the panel did not settle on a winner until Monday, Mr. Lundestad said He added that Oslo now faced a major challenge: to get ready for the award ceremony for Mr. Obama, just two months away. It will probably be among the largest civic events in Norwegian history.

Brian: Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! Are you fucking kidding me?!? Oh, gee, I’m sorry. It was OCTOBER instead of FEBRUARY. Oh, okay. So, that’s what, another eight months?!? Oh, yeah, he got a shitload of stuff during that time.

He closed Gitmo, right?

Ended the war in Iraq?

Disarmed the North Koreans?

Pushed back on the Russian’s territorial ambitions?

Give me a friggin’ break.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
So, if my math is correct, President Obama had all of roughly 12 days in office between the inauguration and the Nobel committee close.
[/quote]

Your math is not correct.

Feb 1 was the deadline for the nominations. But the committee’s decision was not reached until Monday, October 5.

Geir Lundestad, who as executive director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute has handled the committee’s administrative affairs since 1990, said the panel met six or seven times this year, starting several weeks after the nomination deadline, Feb. 1.

Any member of a national legislature, any professor of the social sciences and several other categories of people are free to submit nominations, and someone usually puts forward the name of the American president. That was true this year, even though Mr. Obama had been in office less than two weeks when the deadline hit.

This year the panel did not settle on a winner until Monday, Mr. Lundestad said He added that Oslo now faced a major challenge: to get ready for the award ceremony for Mr. Obama, just two months away. It will probably be among the largest civic events in Norwegian history.

Brian: Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! Are you fucking kidding me?!? Oh, gee, I’m sorry. It was OCTOBER instead of FEBRUARY. Oh, okay. So, that’s what, another eight months?!? Oh, yeah, he got a shitload of stuff during that time.

He closed Gitmo, right?

Ended the war in Iraq?

Disarmed the North Koreans?

Pushed back on the Russian’s territorial ambitions?

Give me a friggin’ break.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
So, if my math is correct, President Obama had all of roughly 12 days in office between the inauguration and the Nobel committee close.
[/quote]

Your math is not correct.

Feb 1 was the deadline for the nominations. But the committee’s decision was not reached until Monday, October 5.

Geir Lundestad, who as executive director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute has handled the committee’s administrative affairs since 1990, said the panel met six or seven times this year, starting several weeks after the nomination deadline, Feb. 1.

Any member of a national legislature, any professor of the social sciences and several other categories of people are free to submit nominations, and someone usually puts forward the name of the American president. That was true this year, even though Mr. Obama had been in office less than two weeks when the deadline hit.

This year the panel did not settle on a winner until Monday, Mr. Lundestad said He added that Oslo now faced a major challenge: to get ready for the award ceremony for Mr. Obama, just two months away. It will probably be among the largest civic events in Norwegian history.

Brian: Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! Are you fucking kidding me?!? Oh, gee, I’m sorry. It was OCTOBER instead of FEBRUARY. Oh, okay. So, that’s what, another eight months?!? Oh, yeah, he got a shitload of stuff during that time.

He closed Gitmo, right?

Ended the war in Iraq?

Disarmed the North Koreans?

Pushed back on the Russian’s territorial ambitions?

Give me a friggin’ break.

[briansd1]

Allan, you’re entitled to your opinion.

But if you think that the Nobel Peace Prize Committee made a mistake, you should blame them. Nothing to do with Obama.

If, as you claim, the Peace Prize has already been diminished in your eyes by the awards to Arafat and Carter, then what’s your beef? By that standard, Obama got a “worthless” prize.

[briansd1]

Allan, you’re entitled to your opinion.

But if you think that the Nobel Peace Prize Committee made a mistake, you should blame them. Nothing to do with Obama.

If, as you claim, the Peace Prize has already been diminished in your eyes by the awards to Arafat and Carter, then what’s your beef? By that standard, Obama got a “worthless” prize.

[briansd1]

Allan, you’re entitled to your opinion.

But if you think that the Nobel Peace Prize Committee made a mistake, you should blame them. Nothing to do with Obama.

If, as you claim, the Peace Prize has already been diminished in your eyes by the awards to Arafat and Carter, then what’s your beef? By that standard, Obama got a “worthless” prize.

[briansd1]

Allan, you’re entitled to your opinion.

But if you think that the Nobel Peace Prize Committee made a mistake, you should blame them. Nothing to do with Obama.

If, as you claim, the Peace Prize has already been diminished in your eyes by the awards to Arafat and Carter, then what’s your beef? By that standard, Obama got a “worthless” prize.

[briansd1]

Allan, you’re entitled to your opinion.

But if you think that the Nobel Peace Prize Committee made a mistake, you should blame them. Nothing to do with Obama.

If, as you claim, the Peace Prize has already been diminished in your eyes by the awards to Arafat and Carter, then what’s your beef? By that standard, Obama got a “worthless” prize.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]Allan, you’re entitled to your opinion.

But if you think that the Nobel Peace Prize Committee made a mistake, you should blame them. Nothing to do with Obama.

If, as you claim, the Peace Prize has already been diminished in your eyes by the awards to Arafat and Carter, then what’s your beef? By that standard, Obama got a “worthless” prize.[/quote]

Brian: This is what you keep missing: I don’t have a beef. I could honestly care less about Obama winning the prize, anymore than I gave a shit about Chicago not winning their Olympic bid (no, as a conservative, I did not revel in this defeat).

Nope, not so much. My point has been to point out the obvious: Obama has done little, if anything, either domestically or internationally (that SNL skit, by the way, was hilarious). For him to be lauded as he has is nonsensical and this prize merely proves that point.

However, watching the liberal-left trying to spin various events as positive has proved far more enjoyable.

My current favorite? Afghanistan. The “war of choice” and the “war we must win” (both according to Obama), has now morphed into the “war we’d rather forget about or ignore”.

Obama’s stern declarations regarding expelling the bad guys from Afghanistan has now moved to his willingness to not only allow the Taliban back in, but allow a power sharing arrangement with them.

You know as well I that Obama will not give McChrystal the necessary forces to prosecute the war the way McChrystal wants and Joe Biden has now gone on record supporting a policy that is a clear loser (drawing force levels down and relying on Special Operations forces and drones) in the eyes of McChrystal (the US Army’s leading expert on counter-terrorism), Petraeus (the US Army’s leading expert on counterinsurgency) and Jim Jones, his National Security Advisor and a former Marine general.

How do you spin this, Brian? He has clearly gone back on his word, he will not prosecute the war in Afghanistan as he repeatedly promised he would and is dithering while American soldiers die in the field.

Moreover, all of this universal “love” for Obama has not crystallized into real support, especially from the Europeans, who refuse to commit additional and very necessary troops to the effort in Afghanistan.

Or, is all of that just “opinion”, Brian?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]Allan, you’re entitled to your opinion.

But if you think that the Nobel Peace Prize Committee made a mistake, you should blame them. Nothing to do with Obama.

If, as you claim, the Peace Prize has already been diminished in your eyes by the awards to Arafat and Carter, then what’s your beef? By that standard, Obama got a “worthless” prize.[/quote]

Brian: This is what you keep missing: I don’t have a beef. I could honestly care less about Obama winning the prize, anymore than I gave a shit about Chicago not winning their Olympic bid (no, as a conservative, I did not revel in this defeat).

Nope, not so much. My point has been to point out the obvious: Obama has done little, if anything, either domestically or internationally (that SNL skit, by the way, was hilarious). For him to be lauded as he has is nonsensical and this prize merely proves that point.

However, watching the liberal-left trying to spin various events as positive has proved far more enjoyable.

My current favorite? Afghanistan. The “war of choice” and the “war we must win” (both according to Obama), has now morphed into the “war we’d rather forget about or ignore”.

Obama’s stern declarations regarding expelling the bad guys from Afghanistan has now moved to his willingness to not only allow the Taliban back in, but allow a power sharing arrangement with them.

You know as well I that Obama will not give McChrystal the necessary forces to prosecute the war the way McChrystal wants and Joe Biden has now gone on record supporting a policy that is a clear loser (drawing force levels down and relying on Special Operations forces and drones) in the eyes of McChrystal (the US Army’s leading expert on counter-terrorism), Petraeus (the US Army’s leading expert on counterinsurgency) and Jim Jones, his National Security Advisor and a former Marine general.

How do you spin this, Brian? He has clearly gone back on his word, he will not prosecute the war in Afghanistan as he repeatedly promised he would and is dithering while American soldiers die in the field.

Moreover, all of this universal “love” for Obama has not crystallized into real support, especially from the Europeans, who refuse to commit additional and very necessary troops to the effort in Afghanistan.

Or, is all of that just “opinion”, Brian?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]Allan, you’re entitled to your opinion.

But if you think that the Nobel Peace Prize Committee made a mistake, you should blame them. Nothing to do with Obama.

If, as you claim, the Peace Prize has already been diminished in your eyes by the awards to Arafat and Carter, then what’s your beef? By that standard, Obama got a “worthless” prize.[/quote]

Brian: This is what you keep missing: I don’t have a beef. I could honestly care less about Obama winning the prize, anymore than I gave a shit about Chicago not winning their Olympic bid (no, as a conservative, I did not revel in this defeat).

Nope, not so much. My point has been to point out the obvious: Obama has done little, if anything, either domestically or internationally (that SNL skit, by the way, was hilarious). For him to be lauded as he has is nonsensical and this prize merely proves that point.

However, watching the liberal-left trying to spin various events as positive has proved far more enjoyable.

My current favorite? Afghanistan. The “war of choice” and the “war we must win” (both according to Obama), has now morphed into the “war we’d rather forget about or ignore”.

Obama’s stern declarations regarding expelling the bad guys from Afghanistan has now moved to his willingness to not only allow the Taliban back in, but allow a power sharing arrangement with them.

You know as well I that Obama will not give McChrystal the necessary forces to prosecute the war the way McChrystal wants and Joe Biden has now gone on record supporting a policy that is a clear loser (drawing force levels down and relying on Special Operations forces and drones) in the eyes of McChrystal (the US Army’s leading expert on counter-terrorism), Petraeus (the US Army’s leading expert on counterinsurgency) and Jim Jones, his National Security Advisor and a former Marine general.

How do you spin this, Brian? He has clearly gone back on his word, he will not prosecute the war in Afghanistan as he repeatedly promised he would and is dithering while American soldiers die in the field.

Moreover, all of this universal “love” for Obama has not crystallized into real support, especially from the Europeans, who refuse to commit additional and very necessary troops to the effort in Afghanistan.

Or, is all of that just “opinion”, Brian?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]Allan, you’re entitled to your opinion.

But if you think that the Nobel Peace Prize Committee made a mistake, you should blame them. Nothing to do with Obama.

If, as you claim, the Peace Prize has already been diminished in your eyes by the awards to Arafat and Carter, then what’s your beef? By that standard, Obama got a “worthless” prize.[/quote]

Brian: This is what you keep missing: I don’t have a beef. I could honestly care less about Obama winning the prize, anymore than I gave a shit about Chicago not winning their Olympic bid (no, as a conservative, I did not revel in this defeat).

Nope, not so much. My point has been to point out the obvious: Obama has done little, if anything, either domestically or internationally (that SNL skit, by the way, was hilarious). For him to be lauded as he has is nonsensical and this prize merely proves that point.

However, watching the liberal-left trying to spin various events as positive has proved far more enjoyable.

My current favorite? Afghanistan. The “war of choice” and the “war we must win” (both according to Obama), has now morphed into the “war we’d rather forget about or ignore”.

Obama’s stern declarations regarding expelling the bad guys from Afghanistan has now moved to his willingness to not only allow the Taliban back in, but allow a power sharing arrangement with them.

You know as well I that Obama will not give McChrystal the necessary forces to prosecute the war the way McChrystal wants and Joe Biden has now gone on record supporting a policy that is a clear loser (drawing force levels down and relying on Special Operations forces and drones) in the eyes of McChrystal (the US Army’s leading expert on counter-terrorism), Petraeus (the US Army’s leading expert on counterinsurgency) and Jim Jones, his National Security Advisor and a former Marine general.

How do you spin this, Brian? He has clearly gone back on his word, he will not prosecute the war in Afghanistan as he repeatedly promised he would and is dithering while American soldiers die in the field.

Moreover, all of this universal “love” for Obama has not crystallized into real support, especially from the Europeans, who refuse to commit additional and very necessary troops to the effort in Afghanistan.

Or, is all of that just “opinion”, Brian?

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