Obama’s big sellout

[Zeitgeist]

I would say that most of the politicians sold their souls to the devil to get elected and soon he will be around to collect.

[briansd1]

[quote=sobmaz]
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
[/quote]

That’s what the Republicans are hoping.

[quote=sobmaz]
The Healthcare plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
[/quote]

Where were the supporters of the single payer system if they wanted it so much? All we saw this whole past summer were tea-party hecklers.

In France, they have social programs because people actually think and go out onto the streets when they are dissatisfied.

But as Sarkozy said, the French think too much and work too little. They may have health care, but they don’t have the easy credit, the nice cars and large houses that we have. Which would you rather have?

Change comes in increments. If you want rapid change, you need to be willing to demand it of the political leaders.

If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.

[briansd1]

[quote=sobmaz]
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
[/quote]

That’s what the Republicans are hoping.

[quote=sobmaz]
The Healthcare plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
[/quote]

Where were the supporters of the single payer system if they wanted it so much? All we saw this whole past summer were tea-party hecklers.

In France, they have social programs because people actually think and go out onto the streets when they are dissatisfied.

But as Sarkozy said, the French think too much and work too little. They may have health care, but they don’t have the easy credit, the nice cars and large houses that we have. Which would you rather have?

Change comes in increments. If you want rapid change, you need to be willing to demand it of the political leaders.

If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.

[briansd1]

[quote=sobmaz]
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
[/quote]

That’s what the Republicans are hoping.

[quote=sobmaz]
The Healthcare plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
[/quote]

Where were the supporters of the single payer system if they wanted it so much? All we saw this whole past summer were tea-party hecklers.

In France, they have social programs because people actually think and go out onto the streets when they are dissatisfied.

But as Sarkozy said, the French think too much and work too little. They may have health care, but they don’t have the easy credit, the nice cars and large houses that we have. Which would you rather have?

Change comes in increments. If you want rapid change, you need to be willing to demand it of the political leaders.

If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.

[briansd1]

[quote=sobmaz]
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
[/quote]

That’s what the Republicans are hoping.

[quote=sobmaz]
The Healthcare plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
[/quote]

Where were the supporters of the single payer system if they wanted it so much? All we saw this whole past summer were tea-party hecklers.

In France, they have social programs because people actually think and go out onto the streets when they are dissatisfied.

But as Sarkozy said, the French think too much and work too little. They may have health care, but they don’t have the easy credit, the nice cars and large houses that we have. Which would you rather have?

Change comes in increments. If you want rapid change, you need to be willing to demand it of the political leaders.

If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.

[briansd1]

[quote=sobmaz]
I am so so disenchanted with the Democratic control that I can barely articulate it. I had such high hopes.
[/quote]

That’s what the Republicans are hoping.

[quote=sobmaz]
The Healthcare plan is just one example. Rather than adopt a one payer system like Germany or France that costs 8% of GDP we have embraced the current system that is costing our economy 15% of GDP and still has some major problems.
[/quote]

Where were the supporters of the single payer system if they wanted it so much? All we saw this whole past summer were tea-party hecklers.

In France, they have social programs because people actually think and go out onto the streets when they are dissatisfied.

But as Sarkozy said, the French think too much and work too little. They may have health care, but they don’t have the easy credit, the nice cars and large houses that we have. Which would you rather have?

Change comes in increments. If you want rapid change, you need to be willing to demand it of the political leaders.

If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.[/quote]

Brian: Oh, that’s precious. It would be “better than nothing”, huh? This is what its come to?

You’ve offered yourself as a “true progressive” and apparently rock ribbed in your beliefs and yet now we’re treated to this tepid bleating as Obama sells you and the independents down the river.

You cannot seriously believe any of this sophistry that you’re writing, can you? Do you really think Obama is pragmatic? Or, is it more realistic to say that, now that the campaign is over, all of those high minded ideals, lofty promises and (empty) rhetorical flourishes were just tools to get elected? Wait, that IS pragmatic. I stand corrected.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.[/quote]

Brian: Oh, that’s precious. It would be “better than nothing”, huh? This is what its come to?

You’ve offered yourself as a “true progressive” and apparently rock ribbed in your beliefs and yet now we’re treated to this tepid bleating as Obama sells you and the independents down the river.

You cannot seriously believe any of this sophistry that you’re writing, can you? Do you really think Obama is pragmatic? Or, is it more realistic to say that, now that the campaign is over, all of those high minded ideals, lofty promises and (empty) rhetorical flourishes were just tools to get elected? Wait, that IS pragmatic. I stand corrected.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.[/quote]

Brian: Oh, that’s precious. It would be “better than nothing”, huh? This is what its come to?

You’ve offered yourself as a “true progressive” and apparently rock ribbed in your beliefs and yet now we’re treated to this tepid bleating as Obama sells you and the independents down the river.

You cannot seriously believe any of this sophistry that you’re writing, can you? Do you really think Obama is pragmatic? Or, is it more realistic to say that, now that the campaign is over, all of those high minded ideals, lofty promises and (empty) rhetorical flourishes were just tools to get elected? Wait, that IS pragmatic. I stand corrected.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.[/quote]

Brian: Oh, that’s precious. It would be “better than nothing”, huh? This is what its come to?

You’ve offered yourself as a “true progressive” and apparently rock ribbed in your beliefs and yet now we’re treated to this tepid bleating as Obama sells you and the independents down the river.

You cannot seriously believe any of this sophistry that you’re writing, can you? Do you really think Obama is pragmatic? Or, is it more realistic to say that, now that the campaign is over, all of those high minded ideals, lofty promises and (empty) rhetorical flourishes were just tools to get elected? Wait, that IS pragmatic. I stand corrected.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.[/quote]

Brian: Oh, that’s precious. It would be “better than nothing”, huh? This is what its come to?

You’ve offered yourself as a “true progressive” and apparently rock ribbed in your beliefs and yet now we’re treated to this tepid bleating as Obama sells you and the independents down the river.

You cannot seriously believe any of this sophistry that you’re writing, can you? Do you really think Obama is pragmatic? Or, is it more realistic to say that, now that the campaign is over, all of those high minded ideals, lofty promises and (empty) rhetorical flourishes were just tools to get elected? Wait, that IS pragmatic. I stand corrected.

[GH]

If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.

Scary eh? If the plan Obama is presenting is so GOOD for America, why is the insurance and medical industry so quiet?

[GH]

If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.

Scary eh? If the plan Obama is presenting is so GOOD for America, why is the insurance and medical industry so quiet?

[GH]

If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.

Scary eh? If the plan Obama is presenting is so GOOD for America, why is the insurance and medical industry so quiet?

[GH]

If Obama prevails, he would be the only president to provide universal health care. That’s better than nothing.

Scary eh? If the plan Obama is presenting is so GOOD for America, why is the insurance and medical industry so quiet?

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