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June 16, 2009 at 4:28 PM #417190June 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM #416480Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipant
[quote=UCGal]Cramer’s an idiot. But we knew that.
Unfortunately, the financial media seems to be focusing on very short term things.The article linked says that there is a 17% increase in housing starts compared to last month. It fails to state that it was down 45.2% from May 2008. That is NOT good news.
It’s like all the focus on the 2nd derivitive… the economic indicators are contracting at a slower rate… They’re still contracting but if you listen to CNBC, Bloomberg, etc crowing aobut it you’d think we had growth rather than contraction.
Cramer’s one of the leading idiots… but there are plenty of idiots following behind him.[/quote]
Actually I cannot figure out why any builder is building anything in the T.V. if they cannot turn a profit (or at least not enough to make it worth all the head aches).
Building in Socal is way down so I look at this as a positive for home prices in the future (here, near or not so near). They should (or I would at least) be building zero homes at the moment I would think.
If they want to lose money they could build schools for free or something but I digress.
At current rate of production we will soon be in a housing shortage in a lot of Socal area’s within say 5 or so years (I know that is hard to think about currently)
I am still sticking with close enough to the bottom for all of T.V. myself.
This is just my Opinion of course.
June 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM #416718Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipant[quote=UCGal]Cramer’s an idiot. But we knew that.
Unfortunately, the financial media seems to be focusing on very short term things.The article linked says that there is a 17% increase in housing starts compared to last month. It fails to state that it was down 45.2% from May 2008. That is NOT good news.
It’s like all the focus on the 2nd derivitive… the economic indicators are contracting at a slower rate… They’re still contracting but if you listen to CNBC, Bloomberg, etc crowing aobut it you’d think we had growth rather than contraction.
Cramer’s one of the leading idiots… but there are plenty of idiots following behind him.[/quote]
Actually I cannot figure out why any builder is building anything in the T.V. if they cannot turn a profit (or at least not enough to make it worth all the head aches).
Building in Socal is way down so I look at this as a positive for home prices in the future (here, near or not so near). They should (or I would at least) be building zero homes at the moment I would think.
If they want to lose money they could build schools for free or something but I digress.
At current rate of production we will soon be in a housing shortage in a lot of Socal area’s within say 5 or so years (I know that is hard to think about currently)
I am still sticking with close enough to the bottom for all of T.V. myself.
This is just my Opinion of course.
June 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM #416978Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipant[quote=UCGal]Cramer’s an idiot. But we knew that.
Unfortunately, the financial media seems to be focusing on very short term things.The article linked says that there is a 17% increase in housing starts compared to last month. It fails to state that it was down 45.2% from May 2008. That is NOT good news.
It’s like all the focus on the 2nd derivitive… the economic indicators are contracting at a slower rate… They’re still contracting but if you listen to CNBC, Bloomberg, etc crowing aobut it you’d think we had growth rather than contraction.
Cramer’s one of the leading idiots… but there are plenty of idiots following behind him.[/quote]
Actually I cannot figure out why any builder is building anything in the T.V. if they cannot turn a profit (or at least not enough to make it worth all the head aches).
Building in Socal is way down so I look at this as a positive for home prices in the future (here, near or not so near). They should (or I would at least) be building zero homes at the moment I would think.
If they want to lose money they could build schools for free or something but I digress.
At current rate of production we will soon be in a housing shortage in a lot of Socal area’s within say 5 or so years (I know that is hard to think about currently)
I am still sticking with close enough to the bottom for all of T.V. myself.
This is just my Opinion of course.
June 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM #417046Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipant[quote=UCGal]Cramer’s an idiot. But we knew that.
Unfortunately, the financial media seems to be focusing on very short term things.The article linked says that there is a 17% increase in housing starts compared to last month. It fails to state that it was down 45.2% from May 2008. That is NOT good news.
It’s like all the focus on the 2nd derivitive… the economic indicators are contracting at a slower rate… They’re still contracting but if you listen to CNBC, Bloomberg, etc crowing aobut it you’d think we had growth rather than contraction.
Cramer’s one of the leading idiots… but there are plenty of idiots following behind him.[/quote]
Actually I cannot figure out why any builder is building anything in the T.V. if they cannot turn a profit (or at least not enough to make it worth all the head aches).
Building in Socal is way down so I look at this as a positive for home prices in the future (here, near or not so near). They should (or I would at least) be building zero homes at the moment I would think.
If they want to lose money they could build schools for free or something but I digress.
At current rate of production we will soon be in a housing shortage in a lot of Socal area’s within say 5 or so years (I know that is hard to think about currently)
I am still sticking with close enough to the bottom for all of T.V. myself.
This is just my Opinion of course.
June 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM #417205Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipant[quote=UCGal]Cramer’s an idiot. But we knew that.
Unfortunately, the financial media seems to be focusing on very short term things.The article linked says that there is a 17% increase in housing starts compared to last month. It fails to state that it was down 45.2% from May 2008. That is NOT good news.
It’s like all the focus on the 2nd derivitive… the economic indicators are contracting at a slower rate… They’re still contracting but if you listen to CNBC, Bloomberg, etc crowing aobut it you’d think we had growth rather than contraction.
Cramer’s one of the leading idiots… but there are plenty of idiots following behind him.[/quote]
Actually I cannot figure out why any builder is building anything in the T.V. if they cannot turn a profit (or at least not enough to make it worth all the head aches).
Building in Socal is way down so I look at this as a positive for home prices in the future (here, near or not so near). They should (or I would at least) be building zero homes at the moment I would think.
If they want to lose money they could build schools for free or something but I digress.
At current rate of production we will soon be in a housing shortage in a lot of Socal area’s within say 5 or so years (I know that is hard to think about currently)
I am still sticking with close enough to the bottom for all of T.V. myself.
This is just my Opinion of course.
June 16, 2009 at 7:48 PM #416586PadreBrianParticipantCrammer might be right about some markets, but others have 5-20% more to go to get back to 2000 pricing (pre-dubya).
June 16, 2009 at 7:48 PM #416823PadreBrianParticipantCrammer might be right about some markets, but others have 5-20% more to go to get back to 2000 pricing (pre-dubya).
June 16, 2009 at 7:48 PM #417083PadreBrianParticipantCrammer might be right about some markets, but others have 5-20% more to go to get back to 2000 pricing (pre-dubya).
June 16, 2009 at 7:48 PM #417151PadreBrianParticipantCrammer might be right about some markets, but others have 5-20% more to go to get back to 2000 pricing (pre-dubya).
June 16, 2009 at 7:48 PM #417310PadreBrianParticipantCrammer might be right about some markets, but others have 5-20% more to go to get back to 2000 pricing (pre-dubya).
June 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM #416721jParticipantCramer has made the wrong call so often about banks and mortgages why does he make any calls?
Here is a clip of Cramer talking about WaMu and Downey S&L; only Greenspan was not laughing when he made these statements: http://www.pluggd.tv/audio/channels/cramer_radio_podcast/episodes/2k4lz
June 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM #416957jParticipantCramer has made the wrong call so often about banks and mortgages why does he make any calls?
Here is a clip of Cramer talking about WaMu and Downey S&L; only Greenspan was not laughing when he made these statements: http://www.pluggd.tv/audio/channels/cramer_radio_podcast/episodes/2k4lz
June 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM #417218jParticipantCramer has made the wrong call so often about banks and mortgages why does he make any calls?
Here is a clip of Cramer talking about WaMu and Downey S&L; only Greenspan was not laughing when he made these statements: http://www.pluggd.tv/audio/channels/cramer_radio_podcast/episodes/2k4lz
June 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM #417285jParticipantCramer has made the wrong call so often about banks and mortgages why does he make any calls?
Here is a clip of Cramer talking about WaMu and Downey S&L; only Greenspan was not laughing when he made these statements: http://www.pluggd.tv/audio/channels/cramer_radio_podcast/episodes/2k4lz
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